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Posted on 10/14/2004 6:47:18 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
Local animal experts are having a hard time identifying a strange looking animal killed in Angelina County on Friday — an animal that looks eerily similar to the as yet unidentified "Elmendorf Beast" killed near San Antonio earlier this year.
"What is that?" are the first words out of anyone's mouth when shown photos of the animal, according to Stacy Womack.
The animal's blue-grey skin is almost hairless and appears to be covered with mange. A closer look at the animal's jaw line reveals a serious overbite and four huge canine teeth, and a long, rat-like tail curls behind the animal's emaciated frame.
Womack — who has more than 20 years experience working at Ellen Trout Zoo and for a local veterinarian — said she's seen and handled a lot of different animals, but that she's never seen anything like this one.
"It's not a dog," she said. "I'd bet my lottery ticket on that."
The animal was shot and killed shortly before noon Friday after crawling under her mother's house on O'Quinn Road in Pollok. Womack said large dogs in the yard "went nuts" and alerted the family, but would only whine and wouldn't go under the house with the animal. Her brother shot the animal, tied a rope around it and dragged it out from under the house for a closer look, she said.
Womack was called to take a photograph of the animal, and possibly help identify it, as well. A live animal, just like the one in the picture, darted across the road in front of her car while she was driving to the scene.
When she arrived with her camera and expertise in tow, Womack said she almost couldn't believe what she was looking at.
"It was so necrotic, its tissue was just rotted," Womack said. "It had no hair, a severe overbite and its claws were entirely too long for a dog."
She said the animal's front legs were much smaller than it's hind legs, and that despite it's overall ghoulish appearance, it's extremely long canine teeth were in excellent condition. Also, despite having been shot, there was virtually no blood seeping from the animal's carcass. The animal's ear also "broke like a cookie" when it's head was held up for a photograph, she said
"It's body looked like something that has been dead for a month or so," Womack said. "Like I said, I've worked in the veterinary field for more than 20 years and I've never seen anything that bad."
The animal was male and weighed between 15 and 20 pounds, she said. The identical animal that sprinted across the road ran with it's head down and it's tail between it's legs, according to Womack, but wasn't tall enough to be a coyote or a wolf. She said the live animal is probably the dead one's mate.
"I would just like to see somebody go out there and try to trap the other one," Womack said. "Because it's in misery, too, and what if it gets into the population?"
Womack showed pictures of the animal to a Texas Parks and Wildlife game warden, who "totally freaked out" and called for a department biologist, she said. The biologist told her it was likely a coyote with mange, but wasn't able to match the animal's skull shape — and overbite — with pictures of coyotes in reference books, according to Womack.
Pictures were also dropped off at the Texas Animal Health Commission, where the veterinarian was out of the office and hadn't contacted Womack as of Tuesday afternoon. She said a biologist was on the way to Pollok to collect a tissue sample of the animal, for DNA testing.
"I just want people to be aware that things like this happen," Womack said. "If it's not the mange, it's something that doesn't need to be in the environment."
C.R. Shilling, of the West Loop Animal Clinic in Lufkin said that after seeing pictures of the animal — and stressing that his determination is "pure speculation" — he believes the animal is probably a coyote. The animal likely suffers from demodex mange, he said, and possibly a secondary skin infection or even a congenital skin defect, as well.
"That's just a congenital defect," Shilling said when asked about the animal's unusual jaw configuration. "We'll even get dogs like that in here."
Shilling said that without seeing the animal itself, it's hard to make an exact determination of what the animal might be. The possibility of it being a dog/coyote mix would be "unusual, but possible," he said.
"It appears to be an extremely undernourished dog," Ellen Trout Zoo Director Gordon Henley said after being e-mailed several photos of the animal. "Wild animals don't typically wind up like that, but undernourished, neglected, domestic animals do."
After enlarging one of the photos and conferring with the zoo's veterinarian, Henley said he feels the animal's mangy, crusty skin could be a result of either neglect or living in the wild. Undernourishment or a congenital deformity could have caused the animal's gross overbite, he said.
"I think what we've got here is a poor, suffering, undernourished and possibly abused canid," Henley said. "Possibly a coyote, but more likely a dog."
WOAI-TV in San Antonio has aired several stories on the so-called "Elmendorf Beast" since a nearby rancher shot and killed one earlier this year. The animal depicted on the station's Web site, at www.woai.com, looks eerily similar to the one discovered in Pollok.
The rancher from Elmendorf, located southeast of San Antonio, killed the animal after 35 of his chickens disappeared in one day. The animal was also almost hairless, with blue-grey coloring and four large "fangs." The station reported that tissue from the animal has been sent for DNA testing, and that it will be several more weeks before the tests are completed.
Speculation in the area as to what type of the animal the rancher killed has varied from simple to mystical. Some say it's a wild Mexican hairless dog, and other than the skin condition and jaw, pictures of the breed do bear a resemblance. Others believe it's the mythical chupacabra — or "goat sucker" — an animal Mexican folklorists say stalks rural areas killing livestock.
One area hunting guide even believed the animal might be a muntjac, a small antelope-type animal imported into the state by ranchers, according to the station's online reports. Muntjac are herbivores, but do have upper canine teeth that are elongated into "tusks" that curve outward from the lips. Muntjac are also called "barking deer" for a sound they'll emit to warn others of predators.
Like most deer, however, the Muntjac have split hoofs instead of paws, and certainly don't have long, rat-like tails.
A San Antonio Zoo mammal expert told WOAI-TV the animal is clearly a member of the canine family, and could possibly be a mix between a dog and a coyote. The expert also said the animal was clearly suffering from some sort of skin ailment, and may also have a congenital deformity of some sort.
Sightings of similar animals have been reported across the country, from California to Maryland.
This requires more examination.
It's an inter-dimensional-quantum mechanics-string theory kind of thing involving up to 12 dimensions.
At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
"A closer look at the animal's jaw line reveals a serious overbite and four huge canine teeth, and a long, rat-like tail curls behind the animal's emaciated frame."
A Liberal DemocRAT... way too easy!
"It's not a dog," she said. "I'd bet my lottery ticket on that."
Wow, putting up her 1/18,000,000 chance to win. Really going out on a limb there, isn't she?
Are they going to DNA tests on it - examine this animal to see who/what it's geneaology may be?
Looks like a fox or an immature coyote. Red fox usually have a longer toe-to-heel ratio on the hind leg than coyotes or gray fox.
Oh for Pete's sake- take it to a taxidermist and he'll recognize it- the thing looks like a taxidermist's mannikin since the fur is missing :
http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/subcategory/70/
If people ever ran across a furless raccoon, weasel or cat they'd freak out- they look even weirder.
Probably just the effects of exposure to some of the material on the Shuttle that crashed in that area.
Fellow freepers, I need some help finding a lost dog. We love our dog despite some of her small problems, and the kids are just crushed that she is missing.
A description so you will recognize her:
She has blue-grey skin that is almost hairless and appears to be covered with mange, this was caused by our 9 year old son billy spraying her with his mothers bottle of nair just before letting her run around in one of our famous Texas thunderstorms and then wrapping her in a freshly tie-dyed shirt to dry her off when she finally came back in shivering fron her loss of hair. She has a serious overbite and only four teeth from getting a little too close to me while I has splitting firewood one afternoon, and a long, rat-like tail curls behind the her emaciated frame due to the fact that she could not eat any solid food for 3 weeks due to the injury suffered when the axe cleaved open her head during the aforementioned wood-splitting incident.
She answers to the name Lucky.
If you live in Texas, and you have seen our beloved pet, please contact me through freep mail.
Thanks.
I wouldn't waste the money on a DNA test though some government official might waste the money since it's someone else's. Just bury the animal; it matters little whether it's a coyote or a coydog, either way it's got mange.
It is a chicken.
So much for no body-no crime. Email us from Argentina...
Oh, my word. That poor little thing. Yes, that has to be a canid with severe mange. God have mercy on the miserable, suffering creature.
Tom Daschle is deeply saddened
Oh, my word. That poor little thing. Yes, that has to be a canid with severe mange. God have mercy on the miserable, suffering creature.
Hmmmmmm...
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