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What does Orthodox Christians for Bush do?
Orthodox Christians for Bush ^ | October 2004

Posted on 10/15/2004 10:27:38 AM PDT by DTA

What does Orthodox Christians for Bush do?

We provide truthful information about domestic and international policies and activities that impact our daily lives as Orthodox Christians and directly influence our relatives and our ancestral homelands.

Our constituents can then make informed decisions about candidates to support in the fall election and recognize that "our voice" can be manifested in President Bush who needs our support and deserves our political backing in every way.

Impact

In the targeted states, there are large numbers of Orthodox Christians. Many different ethic groups are influenced with roots to Eastern Europe and the Middle East including Russian. Anthiocian, Syrian, Carpatho-Russians, Lebanese, Ukrainian, Greek, Serbian, Egyptian (Coptic), Ethiopian, Romanian, Bulgarian and Georgian. No exact data is available, but we estimate in Pennsylvania alone -1 in every 14 adults is Orthodox Christian.

We believe our brothers and sisters can have a profound impact in the critical swing states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan in this Presidential Election by supporting President Bush.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: balkans; bush; christianvote; election; kerry; orthodoxchristians
Another grassroot inititive in Rust belt. Please circulate to your Orthodox Christian friends.
1 posted on 10/15/2004 10:27:38 AM PDT by DTA
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To: MarMema; joan; Destro; crazykatz; Balkans

Oerhodox Christian grassroots initiative ping


2 posted on 10/15/2004 10:29:10 AM PDT by DTA (Proud Pajamista)
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To: DTA

I attended the Phoenix Greek Festival last weekend and there was absolutely NOTHING about Bush. They had several people wearing "Greeks for Kerry" buttons. I am Greek and asked if they had any for Bush. Nope, no such luck.


3 posted on 10/15/2004 10:36:15 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (Who says the media doesn't control what Americans think/feel?)
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To: DTA

catholicsagainstkerry.com has some very good reasons not to
vote for Kerry.
Come by the site and join us. We're running radio spots in Ohio and Pa. but we need your help.


4 posted on 10/15/2004 10:48:30 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: jmaroneps37

My Greek Orthodox friend couldn't be a bigger Kerry supporter. SIGH!


5 posted on 10/15/2004 11:00:08 AM PDT by ruthles
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To: ruthles

sKerry and his gang had push for ethnic voters in NYC and there seem to be bunch of xxxxforKerry.com web sites. One would think that they know better escaping from cummunist hell, only to support this model red crap in sKerry's incarnation.


6 posted on 10/15/2004 11:33:57 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (Vote the RATS out!!!)
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To: FormerLib; katnip; Southside_Chicago_Republican; Destro; ezfindit; Agrarian; The_Reader_David; ...

ping


7 posted on 10/15/2004 6:34:03 PM PDT by MarMema (Sharon is my hero)
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To: DTA

Orthodox Christians are good folk who are very conservative and I hope most of them vote for the moral values championed by the President Bush & the Republican Party.
God help them to do this, because this election is such a crucial one for people of faith.


8 posted on 10/15/2004 10:17:14 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: DTA

If Kerry is elected - pray for the Orthodox people -


9 posted on 10/16/2004 1:05:02 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Agreed, but the Pres just sent out Ramadan greetings to the followers of the "religion of peace". I think we ought to be praying for all of us, no matter which one of these guys gets elected.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 8:56:58 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis

I vew it based on Balkan policy. Kerry will restart the Balkan agenda of Clinton's Admin. Bush forze it in place and did not advance it - and sadly did not retreat from it either.


11 posted on 10/16/2004 11:22:26 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: plushaye

"Orthodox Christians are good folk who are very conservative..."

These brave Christians are certainly that...having just survived almost 1300 years of Muslim aggression, some do not want to deal with upsetting the status quo. Misguided politically?...some of them are. They erroneously believe that the State (expansive and liberal) can provide security. Laughable in that it never did before.


12 posted on 10/16/2004 11:44:26 AM PDT by eleni121 (The status quo is the last refuge of the Left)
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To: Destro
This is absolutely correct. The Orthodox vote is pretty small, but given the fact that this election is being fought over very small groups of swing voters, it is significant.

A Bush reversal of Balkans policy (he could easily have done so under the rationale of fighting Islamic terror -- what the KLA has been doing to Serbian churches in Kosovo and the Christians themselves certainly fits the bill) would have had the potential to swing a good number of Orthodox voters to Bush.

Most (but by no means all) converts to Orthodoxy that I know are conservative Republicans. A growing number of 2nd and 3rd generation Greeks (well-off and in the middle to upper-middle class) are quietly voting Republican. The older generation is still reflexively Democrat -- in no small part a holdover from the days when the Slavs held union jobs and the Greeks and Arabs weren't allowed to join the country clubs. Not a terribly different story from that of many Catholics.

I was sitting at coffee after liturgy at my in-laws GOA parish on the east coast earlier this fall, and the pious elderly gentleman I was chatting with expounded at length on the problems in the country in a fashion that would have made any Republican talking-points writer proud. He then announced to me that he was a firm Democrat.

It will take years of education...

The strongest trump card that the GOP has in drawing Orthodox are the social issues -- abortion, gay marriage... since Orthodox know that these things are flat-out wrong, and can't avoid them. Run Guiliani, Pataki, Schwarzenegger, or that ilk for president (they make GREAT governors and senators, etc. in liberal states, and am grateful to have them in the party), and the Orthodox GOP vote will dwindle.

13 posted on 10/16/2004 11:55:20 AM PDT by Agrarian
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To: eleni121
The very recent eastern European and Russian immigrants from Orthodox countries are very susceptible to Democrat appeal, since they were raised under socialism, and have seen instability in their native lands since the demise of communism. They like the benefits of freedom, but this is a pretty fuzzy concept that can be appealed to from either the right or the left.

I have observed even more fundamental problems in Soviet-era emigres -- such as a respect for the rule of law. Having grown up under an oppressive and illegitimate government, circumnavigating the law was just something that one did out of necessity and with a clean conscience. As a product of the Anglo-American political/legal heritage, I have ingrained into me that one respects even those laws that one doesn't agree with, and works within the political system to change them. This is a foreign concept to someone who grew up under totalitarianism.

The process of absorption is going to be a long one, and is being made even longer by the abject failure of our educational system to systematically teach traditional American values and traditions. The last election, the current polls, and any random look at the mass media all prove that at least 40 - 50% of our fellow citizens don't care to protect those values and traditions, so it shouldn't surprise us that they won't teach it to new arrivals. And church is not the place to teach political traditions. Given its absence in formal teaching, it can only be done through personal relationships.

14 posted on 10/16/2004 12:12:09 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian
A Bush reversal of Balkans policy (he could easily have done so under the rationale of fighting Islamic terror -- what the KLA has been doing to Serbian churches in Kosovo and the Christians themselves certainly fits the bill) would have had the potential to swing a good number of Orthodox voters to Bush.

Bush chose to freeze Clinton's Balkan policy and in some small cases be more "fair" to the Slavic claims.

But that is as good as it got for the Slavs. - If elected Kerry will re-employ the jihadist lovers in the Democratic party like Holbrooke and they will do things in the Balkans to:

A) Show how they support Islamists over Christians in the Balkans and maybe in Chechnya

and

B) Showcase Bosnia and Kosovo - because Democrats can show this as a foreign policy "success" to offset the "failure" of policy in Iraq by Bush.

15 posted on 10/16/2004 12:26:23 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: DTA

Awesome site!

Another Orthodox Christian site is also a strong supporter of President Bush and Conservative values http://www.OrthodoxNet.com


16 posted on 10/17/2004 11:39:19 AM PDT by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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To: DTA

Awesome site!

Another Orthodox Christian site is also a strong supporter of President Bush and Conservative values http://www.OrthodoxNet.com


17 posted on 10/17/2004 11:41:20 AM PDT by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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To: MarMema

Thanks! Great site!


18 posted on 10/17/2004 11:44:29 AM PDT by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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