Posted on 10/15/2004 5:33:37 PM PDT by RogueIsland
I'll tell you the main thing for me about when life begins.
I've had 3 miscarriages, and 2 successful pregnancies.
After the 2nd miscarriage, I stopped thinking about it being a baby until I saw a heart beating. Before that, there is a 33% chance that a pregnancy will miscarry. After the heart starts beating, there is only a 1 % chance that a pregnancy will miscarry. So when the heart starts beating is when I think it changes from being a lump of cells, to actually being a baby.
As I have had multiple miscarriages, I stopped thinking it was a baby after the 2nd miscarriage. I thought I was wrong to think of the first 2 as babies. They weren't. One was a blighted ovum. There was nothing inside.
So for my next 3 pregnancies, I didn't think I was having a baby until I saw a heart beating on the ultrasound.
One of those pregancies was another miscarriage. The other two pregnancies resulted in 3 healthy kids (twins on the 2nd pregnancy).
I also believe that life begins at conception.
What I would like to say to those who don't consider this to be life until some later stage would be this....
Just how can one get to the point of being viable (whatever the pro-abortion crowd considers that to be) if its development at the earlier stage is stopped?
In other words, destroying just those "clumps of cells", as abortion advocates like to call them, stops the life process. A fully formed baby cannot come about without the very earliest stages of development.
Life is life. Abortion at any stage takes a life. There is no way around it.
So how do you reconcile the fertility clinic process? Is destroying unused fertilized eggs murder?
If you're talking about invitro-fertilization, I'm against that. I believe that life is life, in the strictest possible terms.
If one has unused fertilized eggs, they should never be destroyed.
Call me a nut or unreasonably old-fashioned, but it's how I feel.
What should we do with them then? In almost every fertility procedure a surplus of fertilized eggs is generated? There are thousands of frozen embryos in storage now.
Since fertility clinics are legal and a booming business these days, I can think of two things that can be done with the embryos. Either leave them frozen or donate them to other couples. Again, I don't think that fertility clinics are really a road that, as a society, we were meant to go down. I realize that it is a legal practice, but I don't believe in destroying any embryos, no matter how many there may be in storage.
I'll have to leave it at that.
And should we treat it judicially as murder, with prison or the chair?
Your assumption that a fetus is a human being is based upon religious precepts - the concept of a soul.
What makes this country great is that we don't mix the law and religion.
BUMP
You need to go back and read the founding documents of this nation...you are way off base on this.
And if the fetus is not human pray tell us what it is? And when a preemie is delivered at 6 months, why is the child protected but not the "fetus" at 6 months? Your logic does not carry you and your prejudices.
you're right clint. you suhk! Big time.
Frequently, I find that people who are pro-abortion have never really seen what an abortion is. They view this issue as a tug-of-war about women's rights.
Abortions are ugly and extremely sad. You can see one at www.abortiontv.com
If someone goes to this site and studies a real abortion and still feels that it is ok, they need prayer.
What evidence is that?
The only evidence, not conjecture, but actual evidence that we have is that criminalization saves lives.
Why you so vehmently reject this I don't know. I understand people get the heart set on their own little projects, but come on now.
If you care about saving lives, like you keep claiming to, you need to get on board the program that works - and that, as the evidence shows overwhelmingly, is criminalization...
The best solution to slavery was abolition. And it is far past time to bring the same abolitionist solution to the abortion industry.
At least I'm not nuts!
As a mother of 5 on earth and one in heaven, who died at birth, I find it emotionally impossible, but mentally possible to understand a woman killing her child. I think it is with some ignorance, others pragmatism; with some selfishness, and with others a religion that delights in defying God.
Sure there is. And pretending there isn't won't make them not exist, as much as I'm sure you'd like them to.
For example:
The Biblical Basis for Being Pro-Choice
Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice
There are many millions of pro-choice Christians, even if you choose to cover your eyes and hope they go away.
And I know what argument you'll try next, so don't bother -- I can hear the bagpipes already.
You may disagree with them or consider them mistaken, but that doesn't make them not Christian. You'll have to find some other way of dealing with the shocking fact that they believe in Christ yet still (gasp) disagree with you on some matters.
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