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To: bayourod
I voted for him in 2000. As such I realized the congress would moderate his desires. Many of his advisors would have been republican.   I can't believe anyone actually thought on election day that Pat could win. He got less than 1/4th of one percent of the vote. Pat's supporters are delusional.

We've had this conversation what, 25 perhaps 50 times by now.  That being the case, your response here not only doesn't apply, but reveals you to be either a disrupter or someone who is truth challenged.

I considered Buchanan to be an extreme long shot as much as a year before election day.  As much as six months before I was fairly sure his chances were zero.  Three months before I realized it was over.  So much for me thinking he would be elected on election day.  It was a principled stand that is more complex than I care to spend time on now.  I have done so a number of times before, and you know it, so why bother again.

It's sad to see such animosity toward a guy who stated in the early 1990s that if we didn't get our borders under control, we were going to be exposed to terrible acts of terrorism... Not a single act of terrorism has resulted from "our borders not being under control". Terrorists enter the U.S. using valid visas and other government issued documents. Why would they risk dying or being caught swimming the Rio Grande or walking for days across deserts and mountains when they can fly first class to any international airport in the country?

A number of the terrorists on 09/11 had expired entry visas.  The proper implementation of entry visas and the review thereof, is certainly a part of our border control.  As such, your comments don't merit further comment on that point, but I will say that granting entry visas for education, then allowing said individuals to practice takeoffs, but not landings, strikes me as something we should have been aware of.  Beyond that point, these were individuals from terrorist states, who arguably shouldn't have been admitted to our nation under ANY circumstances.

Our borders were not under control were they.  And yes it cost us dearly.


28 posted on 10/17/2004 8:43:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
If you believed that Buchanan had "zero" chance of winning why are you now trying to excuse your vote for him by saying that you voted for him because you thought he would appoint Republican advisers and Congress would moderate him?

If you thought when you voted for him that he would appoint Republican advisers then you obviously thought he could win

All the polls showed Buchanan with less than two percent of the vote, but Buchanan was saying that the pollsters didn't call his supporters. Buchanan actually had his weak minded supporters believing that there was a vast secret pitchfork army of voters who were going to pull off the biggest upset in history.

When are you going to wake up and realize that he's nothing but a con man preying on the fears and insecurities of the elderly, mentally disturbed and bigots.

33 posted on 10/17/2004 9:03:35 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"A number of the terrorists on 09/11 had expired entry visas. "

They weren't expired when they entered. They didn't enter because "our borders weren't under control".

Buchanan was playing on the fears and prejudices of people against Mexicans. Don't you remember his ads about the dangers of choking on meatballs because the 911 operater might be bilingual?

That's how superficial his message needs to be to convince his racists supporters. Now he's doing the same thing by trying to tie terrorism to Mexicans entering illegally when there is no connection.

34 posted on 10/17/2004 9:14:29 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have done so a number of times before, and you know it, so why bother again. You took the time to announce your Buchananite loyalties to all the readers. Why shouldn't bayourod explain to them why that was a bad call? Even though he responded to your post he is obviously talking to the readers. If he was talking to you he would have written "I can't believe YOU actually thought on election day that Pat could win. He got less than 1/4th of one percent of the vote. YOU'RE delusional."
45 posted on 10/17/2004 10:48:22 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Neo-Con Bushbot.)
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