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Danger From Depleted Uranium Is Found Low in Pentagon Study
NY Times ^ | October 19, 2004 | MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 10/19/2004 7:37:44 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON, Oct. 18 - A Pentagon-sponsored study of weapons made from depleted uranium, a substance whose use has attracted environmental protests around the world, has concluded that it is neither toxic enough nor radioactive enough to be a health threat to soldiers in the doses they are likely to receive.

In a five-year, $6 million study, researchers fired depleted uranium projectiles into Bradley fighting vehicles and Abrams tanks, in a steel chamber at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland, and measured the levels of uranium in the air and how quickly the particles settled.

The conclusion, said Dr. Michael E. Kilpatrick, deputy director of the Deployment Health Support Directorate of the Defense Department, is that "this is a lethal but safe weapons system."

The new study did not seek to measure how depleted uranium traveled through the environment or its potential for entering drinking water or crops.

But it did measure how quickly uranium that is inhaled was passed through the body. Lt. Col. Mark A. Melanson, the program manager for health physics at the Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine, said that the aerosolized particles of depleted uranium were "moderately soluble," and that inhaled particles would dissolve in lung fluids and eventually pass through the kidneys and enter the urine, with half the uranium being excreted in 10 to 100 days. Uranium that is eaten would pass through far faster and with little absorption, Colonel Melanson said.

He said the long-term risks were tiny compared with the risk of being killed outright by the weapon.

The study, conducted by contractors led by the Battelle Memorial Institute, is scheduled to be released Tuesday. Dr. Kilpatrick said the test results and the findings would be publicly posted for peer review.

But opponents of using depleted uranium, who have not yet seen the study, were skeptical of the findings.

"We do know that depleted uranium is radioactive and toxic," said Tara Thornton, of the Military Toxics Project, a nonprofit group in Lewiston, Me., which seeks to clean up military pollution. "Studies have shown health impacts on rats and other things." Depleted uranium is a byproduct of nuclear weapons production. It is almost entirely a form called Uranium 238, which is left after the more valuable Uranium 235, the kind useful in bombs and reactors, has been removed. Depleted uranium is 1.7 times more dense than lead and penetrates armor easily.

The United States military has never confronted an opponent that used depleted uranium. Most exposure to American military personnel has been a result of fire from their own forces.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: armament; banglist; defense; defensedepartment; depleteduranium; health; medicine; militaryforces; militarypersonnel; uranium
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1 posted on 10/19/2004 7:37:50 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Low risk?

Welll, depends if you are on the recieving end of a DU Sabot or 25mm round!


LOL


2 posted on 10/19/2004 7:47:42 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: neverdem
Until it hits your position at high velocity.


3 posted on 10/19/2004 7:52:07 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; King Prout; ..

From time to time, I’ll post or ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.


4 posted on 10/19/2004 7:56:42 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
>>>>>>In a five-year, $6 million study, researchers fired depleted uranium projectiles into Bradley fighting vehicles and Abrams tanks, in a steel chamber at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland, and measured the levels of uranium in the air and how quickly the particles settled.<<<<

An exqample of money spent wisely. Better spend $6 Mil for a paper study than spend Billions to cleanup proving grounds across U.S. of A and elsewhere, and splurge for replacing DU with expensive Tungsten ammo.

Heck, in the 1890's Radiaton was not considered dangerous at all. People used to make 'radiograms' at traveling shows. Even Nobel-laureate Maria Currie thought the same.

Since now we have a proof about DU not being dangerous, perhaps it is good time to revive 1950s concept and use DU for household items (heaters ovens, even children bicucles) DU is cheap, abundant and harmless. /sarcasm off

5 posted on 10/19/2004 7:58:28 PM PDT by DTA (Proud Pajamista)
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To: DTA
Well, depleted uranium has a significantly LONGER half-life, with the same degradation pathway, this means that it is even LESS radioactive than "non-depleted" uranium found naturally occuring in the soil.

How about them apples?
6 posted on 10/19/2004 8:18:57 PM PDT by yevgenie (8 bits in a byte; 2 bits to a quarter ($.25) ==> so, 8 bits is a dollar ???)
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; ...

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


7 posted on 10/19/2004 8:30:23 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: DTA
Since now we have a proof about DU not being dangerous, perhaps it is good time to revive 1950s concept and use DU for household items (heaters ovens, even children bicucles) DU is cheap, abundant and harmless. /sarcasm off

There have been several studies. DU is only slightly more dangerous than lead. It certainly is not cheap or plentiful, but it certainly is far, far more effective as an armor penetrator than other materials, because it is so hard and so dense, much more so than even tungsten.

From a quick search on the web, I found tungsten to be about $7 a pound, and Uranium to be about $20 a pound.

If the military had not done a study, then tinfoil hat types would be saying they didn't do a study so that they could coverup the problem.

8 posted on 10/19/2004 8:34:38 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: neverdem
BENEFITS FOUND IN DEPLETED URANIUM SIDING

Tom says: One of the benefits of depleted uranium siding is that it generally requires less maintenance than traditional aluminum siding. It holds paint very well, so you don't have to worry about repainting it often. However, you do have to prep it carefully first, and if you don't, you may be exposing yourself to a potential health hazard. Depleted uranium's greater weight helps it hold up better during windstorms... [read more at www.du-siding.com]

/sarcasm off

9 posted on 10/19/2004 8:36:21 PM PDT by ReveBM
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To: neverdem
BENEFITS FOUND IN DEPLETED URANIUM SIDING

Tom says: One of the benefits of depleted uranium siding is that it generally requires less maintenance than traditional aluminum siding. It holds paint very well, so you don't have to worry about repainting it often. However, you do have to prep it carefully first, and if you don't, you may be exposing yourself to a potential health hazard. Depleted uranium's greater weight helps it hold up better during windstorms... [read more at www.du-siding.com]

/sarcasm off

10 posted on 10/19/2004 8:36:53 PM PDT by ReveBM
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To: DTA

DU is a heavy metal. Continuous exposure is not recomended. However, I would much preffer to be in a tank with Chobham/DU armor and DU shells than in one with rolled steel.


11 posted on 10/19/2004 8:45:35 PM PDT by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: DTA
Since now we have a proof about DU not being dangerous, perhaps it is good time to revive 1950s concept and use DU for household items (heaters ovens, even children bicucles) DU is cheap, abundant and harmless. /sarcasm off

There have been several studies. DU is only slightly more dangerous than lead. It certainly is not cheap or plentiful, but it certainly is far, far more effective as an armor penetrator than other materials, because it is so hard and so dense, much more so than even tungsten.

From a quick search on the web, I found tungsten to be about $7 a pound, and Uranium to be about $20 a pound.

If the military had not done a study, then tinfoil hat types would be saying they didn't do a study so that they could coverup the problem.

12 posted on 10/19/2004 8:51:45 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: 1stFreedom; neverdem
Remember the the "friendly fire" incident in the Gulf War? An Apache pelted a Bradley and several GI's wounded with DU shrapnel. They have symptoms associated with "Gulf War syndrome"

A while back, I was doing some research on the illness and Iraq's nuclear sites. I located a hand out on dealing with DU. The government can't just pick up millions of spent ord. But the info was that DU is quite toxic to humans. I try to find and post.

13 posted on 10/19/2004 9:01:58 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: ReveBM; neverdem

Your sarcasm is noted. Let's take it up a notch: What if siding installers were installing them and not taking any precautions that were known to the manufacture, but not those risks were not disclosed?


14 posted on 10/19/2004 9:12:07 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: neverdem
"Studies have shown health impacts on rats and other things."

No wonder the DEmoncrap party don't like it.

15 posted on 10/19/2004 9:15:10 PM PDT by HP8753 (Bypass Online News Sites Registration>>>> www.bugmenot.com)
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To: marktwain
>>> I found tungsten to be about $7 a pound, and Uranium to be about $20 a pound.<<<<

DU is not Uranium. It is waste from spent nuclear fuel used in Nuclear reactors (that's where Plutonium in DU came from)

Perhaps that $20/pound is disposal fee, not cost of DU as a scrap metal.

16 posted on 10/19/2004 9:18:38 PM PDT by DTA (Proud Pajamista)
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To: endthematrix
The Independent

Gulf War syndrome does exist, says report By James Burleigh
17 October 2004

Gulf War syndrome has been demonstrated to exist by scientists in the US, according to The New York Times, quoting a report by the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses.

In the report, which was leaked to the paper, Professor Beatrice Golomb, the committee's chief scientist, said that exposure to particular substances during the 1990-91 war may have affected some soldiers' body chemistry. It added that the troops' health problems were definitely caused by contact with toxic chemicals rather than stress or psychiatric illness.

Professor Golombe told Radio 4's Today programme: "Gulf war veterans really are ill at an elevated degree, and several studies bring consistent findings that about 25 to 30 per cent of those who were deployed are ill."

Noel Baker, the secretary of the National Gulf Veterans and Families Benevolent Association in Britain, described the findings as "explosive".

Mr Baker said: "This is senior research. It's not by any private venture or by someone with an axe to grind."

The Ministry of Defence declined to comment on the leaked report.

17 posted on 10/19/2004 9:20:52 PM PDT by DTA (Proud Pajamista)
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To: endthematrix

I went to a medical conference. One of the topics was WMD. During the Q & A, I asked a former Surgeon General for the U.S. Army, what's the toxicity with depleted uranium? He said it was beceause it's a heavy metal it can be toxic to the kidneys.


18 posted on 10/19/2004 9:21:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

If the stuff burns, i.e hits something, and the vapor is inhaled it's very toxic to the lungs as well. Also, as from my previous post, DU shrapnel will cause all sorts of blood and nervous system damage.


19 posted on 10/19/2004 9:25:33 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: DTA

They Brits are phasing out there DU stocks, as is Russia IIRC.


20 posted on 10/19/2004 9:27:21 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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