Posted on 10/20/2004 9:13:15 AM PDT by Peach
Edited on 10/20/2004 7:41:44 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
There is a story today in the Washington Post by Helen Dewar and Thomas Ricks, the headline: Help of Allies Among Three Key Themes. I want you to listen to this quote from Kerry. This quote is actually from April 17th of 1994 on CNN's Late Edition. This is back when Frank Sesno hosted the program. This is the third paragraph of the story in the Washington Post today.
"Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support. In 1994, discussing the possibility of U.S. troops being killed in Bosnia, he said, 'If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no.'"
So I mean there you have it. John Kerry believes that American troops dying under the banner of the UN flag is acceptable, when dying under the banner of the American flag is not. I hope he's asked about this. This is something that shows up again in the Washington Post today, it's from 1994. This is the best evidence we have, and this is from Kerry's own lips, of his obsession -- and I don't think that's too strong a word to use here -- his obsession with the UN. If you take this quote and combine it with his other words and his record, you have irrefutable evidence, all the evidence we need that he worships at the shrine of the United Nations. Here's the actual question and answer from Frank Sesno CNN on Late Edition, April 17th of 1994. Sesno says: Senator Kerry, it begs the question, what are the U.S. interests and the strategic interests in this place called the Balkans? Kerry: Well, they are less than our interests in perhaps Haiti. They are greater than our interests in Somalia. Sesno: But worth dying for? That's the question, are they worth fighting and dying for? Kerry: Well, it depends what you mean by that, Frank. If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yeah, it's worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome the answer is unequivocally no. So I think it's a question of where you place the interest.
So John Kerry thinks that American troops dying under the American flag is not justified, and is not worthwhile, but under the UN flag, then of course American deaths are justified. Now, this is all about Bosnia, and Clinton went in without the United Nations, if you recall. So I would think that Kerry would be in opposition to what we did there and that any deaths that we incurred are not worth it because we went in with some unilateral false presumption that we could affect the outcome.
We will keep a sharp eye on this. I just think this is a devastating quote. You put it in context with the global test quote that he had in the first debate. Make no mistake, this is the Washington Post, this is the third paragraph of the story, this will be picked up on and harped on by the Bush campaign I'm certain, it has to be, later on today.
We found the audio sound bite of John Kerry on CNN April 17th, 1994. Frank Sesno with the question. This is all about going to the Balkans. Is it worth American lives to go to Balkans? And here's the sound bite.
SESNO: Are they worth dying for? That's the question. Are they worth fighting and dying for?
KERRY: It depends what you mean by that, Frank. If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no.
RUSH: I mean, there you have it. Here's John Kerry saying that American deaths under the UN banner are permissible and honorable, American deaths under American flag only are not, April 17th, 1994. It doesn't sound to me like this position of his, this global test and the UN will have a veto over what we do doesn't sound like his position has changed, sounds like it's hardened, sounds like it's the one policy Kerry is actually firm in believing. It sounds like that Kerry does not flip-flop when it comes to the UN. He may flip-flop on everything else, but when it comes to the UN, boy, it trumps everything. And he's been consistent, at least as we can prove from the record from 1994 to the present, about ten years, ladies and gentlemen.
Nor 50%of the country.
It's a good thing so many Americans own guns. It's the only protection we are going to have if Kerry is elected.
Every time I see this CRAP about Kerry, I think "Rosenburgs".
History records a people, a time, a context in which treason was not 'fashionably correct.' Thank God... history repeats itself and that day is bound to return, as long as we survive to see it. Unfortunately, REAL patriotism, is usually preceeded by a few 'events' that really bring it to the surface.
We have only had ONE such event. How many more will it take... to get these 'traitors' on the 'rosenburg' track?
Please help spread the word about the true Kerry.
M2C, this is why my nerves are on edge as 11/2 approaches. I don't know if even God could help us if Kerry get's elected, because He gives us the free will to choose.
It's no different that what Kerry said in the '70's and what he's saying on the campaign trail right now. It's just that now he's using more cowardly wording so that, in a pinch, he can say he's not really saying what he's been saying all along.
You are correct. If you look at the polls, people are not voting because they like sKerry, they are voting out of hatred of GWB.
Take a look at the postings at DU. Granted they are the faaaaar left Koolaide drinkers, but they are the core of the sKerry base and they absolutely hate GWB.
Aint that the truth. Perhaps the helments should be colored blue.
Bill Clinton did not have UN support, yet Kerry supported the whole fiasco?
We went in without mapping the theaters, had no idea who the enemy was, and with NO OBJECTIVE except for some vague idea of saving a bunch of unknown Muslims who CLAIMED to be "ethnic Albanians" from alleged 'genocide'...resulting in our fighting for, training and ARMING al Qaeda, bombing trainloads of native Serbian civilians and foreign embassies, nearly starting WWIII, our finding there WERE NO MASS GRAVES AFTER ALL (so Clinton lied and good men died?) and the fact that OUR TROOPS ARE STILL THERE.
We didn't win crap in Bosnia...no, I take that back...we DID win crap.
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Irrational hatred is a sickness. As much as I detested Clinton's policies, morals, etc. I never had a hatred of the man to the depths these people profess they have toward Bush. It borders on insanity.
Along with being a U.N. suck up, I would ask Lurch who screams that fighting terrorism abroad only causes more terrorism what then is our reason for fighting terrorism at home if after all it causes more terrorism? Maybe Lurch thinks the best thing to do is surrender and throw ourselves on the mercy of the U.N. and a world tribunal to face trial for our crimes against humanity.
What "real job" did dragon lady Teresa ever hold as an adult?
It's the ultimate wet dream of the Fabian internationalists.
A traitor President, who will do as much as possible to destroy American sovereignty, and make the UN supreme.
Once the UN has taxing power, all bets are off.
You know what's interesting. We DID have a UN banner for the first Gulf War didn't we? Or am I remembering that incorrectly? And he still voted against it.
Kerry also said that the most frustrating moment of his life was when the US delayed funding the UN:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1249134/posts
Just this ONE quote SHOULD be enough to bury this bast*rd!
I hate the big media for not letting America know who this jerk is!!! They're out to kill this country!
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I hate the media too. They think they can elect Kerry all on their own.
If Bush doesn't change his stump speech to include this AND make a commercial of sKerry's words, it's a huge missed opportunity.
Good find!
You are so, so RIGHT! George MUST make an ad of this statement and air it OFTEN..... it is a killer to Kerry.
Just imagine exactly what he said! I know I do not have to tell you!
This is a remarkably anti-American, anti-soldier statement.
As I have read parts of his father's book and read alot about Kerry and his "relationship" with his anti-American father, I know Effin hates America. If he is elected because of this massive voter fraud, I will want to die. (but, I'm one who believes sometimes it is necessary for good people to do bad things, so keep in mind, we may have the vote counting computers under control to countewract the vote fraud))
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