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Woman Changes Prostitute Murder Story 23 Years Later
WCVB-Boston ^ | 10/22/2004 | AP

Posted on 10/22/2004 11:03:59 AM PDT by cwiz24

Woman Changes Prostitute Murder Story 23 Years Later
Witness Says She Was Threatened Into Lying

TAUNTON, Mass. -- A woman who helped put away a Fall River, Mass., man for life for a gruesome ritualistic murder has changed her story. Carol Fletcher told a Taunton Superior Court judge that convicted killer Carl Drew wasn't there when Karen Marsden was killed. That differed from her 1981 testimony, when Fletcher said she, Drew and two others took Marsden to woods in Westport, Mass., to kill her. The hearing Thursday was held to determine if Drew should get a new trial.

Fletcher said she actually witnessed another woman, Robin Marie Murphy, begin to murder Marsden on the roof of a Fall River apartment building. She said she was threatened into lying on the stand by prosecutors and Murphy. Murphy pleaded guilty and testified against Drew. The hearing is scheduled to continue Friday.


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This hooker ought to be put away for providing false information to the police and for perjury. How could she sleep at night?
1 posted on 10/22/2004 11:03:59 AM PDT by cwiz24
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My same thought. Why does it take someone 23 years to come forward?


2 posted on 10/22/2004 11:07:08 AM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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"This hooker ought to be put away for providing false information to the police and for perjury. How could she sleep at night?"

As a hooker, she doesn't have to...


3 posted on 10/22/2004 11:07:16 AM PDT by Buck W. (The Berger archive scandal, aka the Folies Bergere! How apropos: It's French!)
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Woman Changes Prostitute Murder Story 23 Years Later

Okay, fine. Stick her dumb ass in the jail and let's see what her story is 23 years from now. That should do just fine.

4 posted on 10/22/2004 11:09:30 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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Guess it's a good thing they didn't execute him.


5 posted on 10/22/2004 11:10:18 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Yeah, but the guy's lost 23 years of his life just because some slut said she was afraid for 23 years . Appalling.
6 posted on 10/22/2004 11:12:49 AM PDT by cwiz24 (Hey Yankees fans---Now who's ya daddy?)
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Really fast death penalty application would stop this sort of thing from happening.


7 posted on 10/22/2004 11:13:37 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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That's freaking hilarious. /sarcasm


8 posted on 10/22/2004 11:14:25 AM PDT by cwiz24 (Hey Yankees fans---Now who's ya daddy?)
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Prosecutors believe, for instance, that the only thing wrong with the Crucifixion was that the state didn't do it again when the opportunity arose. Therefore, the official line will be that the guy was rightly convicted despite this recantation and he'll stay in jail.


9 posted on 10/22/2004 11:16:03 AM PDT by Grut
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Once convicted, it is my opinion that the 5th Amendment does not apply to the convicted person for that crime. It should be mandatory in all possible Capital Cases, that the person be given a lie detector test under sodium pentathal (or better if available) and at least 2X. If they pass, a death sentence would be ruled out and a reinvestigation mandatory. JMO
10 posted on 10/22/2004 11:16:13 AM PDT by Henchman (Who gave KERRY entré to the VC @ Paris? T.Kennedy? McGovern? ...some"high" low D'rat probably)
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So she's said she lied 23 years ago?

And we are supposed to believe her NOW?

11 posted on 10/22/2004 11:17:08 AM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: Grut

It's all dependent on his involvement in the crime. Perhaps he was an accessory after the fact. Somehow, I assume he was involved in the murder, even if he didn't actually commit it.


12 posted on 10/22/2004 11:18:59 AM PDT by cwiz24 (Hey Yankees fans---Now who's ya daddy?)
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To: Martin Tell

Maybe she's one of those born-agains that has seen the light after so many years of bad behavior. Or maybe she's in AA and she's reached the eighth step...


13 posted on 10/22/2004 11:20:56 AM PDT by cwiz24 (Hey Yankees fans---Now who's ya daddy?)
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To: Martin Tell
You are on to something. Recantations long after trial are notoriously unreliable. The recanting witness is often a bitter and maladjusted person. Their "new" evidence has to considered in the light of all the evidence available at the time of the trial..
14 posted on 10/22/2004 11:22:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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No comment, except to say the grammar in this piece is really, really bad.


15 posted on 10/22/2004 11:32:17 AM PDT by gridlock (BARKEEP: Why the long face? HORSE: Ha ha, old joke. BARKEEP: Not you, I was talking to JF'n Kerry!)
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To: Henchman; All
Interesting idea.
In a general sense, should we consider a change in our judicial system? We have adapted all other systems based on new technology. The judicial system already deals with new forensic evidence, not possible even 5 years ago.
If there was a truth detector, would we want to use it in court? It could put lawyers out of business.
16 posted on 10/22/2004 11:35:57 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Flush John 'Fonda' Kerry)
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"A woman who helped put away a Fall River, Mass., man for life for a gruesome ritualistic murder"

either way, this poor guy got screwed


17 posted on 10/22/2004 11:37:53 AM PDT by mlocher
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To: Doctor Stochastic

>>Really fast death penalty application would stop this sort of thing from happening.<<

I agree. I also have a question. The woman is giving two opposite stories. Which is the correct one? And how can we be sure?

I ignore what she is now saying.

I will add this, however: If she IS telling the truth now, would she have lied before if she knew she was sending a man to his death? Then again, was her testimony alone what nailed him?

I dunno. I'm more concerned about nov. 2nd right now...


18 posted on 10/22/2004 11:43:42 AM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: cwiz24
you said; "This hooker ought to be put away for providing false information to the police and for perjury."

from the article; "She said she was threatened into lying on the stand by prosecutors and Murphy."

I suppose the prosecutors should be doing time for witness tampering if she is telling the truth. I mean if we are to believe her when she says she lied in her testimony back then, why should we doubt her when she explains why she did it. Why else would she have bothered to lie.

Murphy must have gotten a deal. She probably wouldn't have gotten that deal if it wasn't for the 'false' testimony of Fletcher.
19 posted on 10/22/2004 11:57:39 AM PDT by monday
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"Really fast death penalty application would stop this sort of thing from happening."

? You are probably being sarcastic, but you really need to add the /<sarcasm tag. Writing it the way you did just makes you look like a flaming moron, or a troll.


20 posted on 10/22/2004 12:02:53 PM PDT by monday
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