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GOP Plans to Wage War Against Vote Fraud
Newsmax ^ | 10/25/04

Posted on 10/23/2004 4:11:36 PM PDT by truthandlife

Believing that Democrats are poised to engage in massive vote fraud in key battleground states, the Republican Party is planning to deploy thousands of monitors to challenge questionable voters.

In a page one story in the New York Times Saturday, the paper said the Republican party in Ohio alone has identified about 35,000 new voters who they believe to be fraudulent or questionable.

The Republicans claimed that 35,000 new voters were sent a mailed notice confirming the registration. The party said in every case the U.S. Post Office returned the notice as "undeliverable."

In the Democratic bastion of Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) alone, Republicans discovered more than 14,000 questionable registrations.

To combat the possibility of massive vote fraud the Republicans plan on deploying thousands of operatives to challenge questionable new voters on election day.

The Times quoted Ohio officials as saying the Republican effort is one of the largest they have ever seen.

But the Republican Party's moves are defensive. The Times has reported that Ohio Democrats have out registered Republicans by a ratio of 5 to 1.

Democrat 527 groups have reportedly been spending between $150 million to $300 million this year on voter registration and turn out efforts.

Apparently those monies have helped create a wave of fraudulent registration programs.

For example, in Ohio election officials are reviewing the voter registration of Jive Turkey Sr., who was among 1,284 suspicious applications that Cuyahoga County, Ohio, election officials will turn over to prosecutors to investigate for potential fraud.

Last week, officials in Defiance County, Ohio, questioned the voter registration applications of Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and Michael Jordan.

The police said the man who created these registrations claimed he was paid in crack cocaine for his registration efforts by a representative of the NAACP.

The GOP’s watchdog plan has local voting officials in Ohio ramping up for unprecedented disruptions in the voting process and others crying racial foul because the Republicans have targeted areas with high numbers of minority voters.

But Robert Bennett, the state GOP chairman, says the demographic issues are moot. "I'm not going to play this game of suppression and intimidation," he said. "Voter fraud is voter fraud, no matter where it occurs."

Democratic Party operatives insist, however, that the GOP effort is nothing short of class warfare. "Their whole goal is to try to lessen the voter rank and file," Jimmy Dimora, head of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party, told the Plain Dealer.

Widespread Fraud

The Republicans are facing an increasingly ominous situation. They could actually win the election, but en up having it stolen during the ballot process.

Anecdotal and empirical evidence suggests the vote fraud is teetering on massive proportions, including reports:

# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York. The overwhelming number of double registrations were Democratic.

# The Orlando Sentinel examined voting records from Florida, Georgia and North Carolina. The found that in more than 68,000 cases voters with the same names and dates of birth were registered in two states.

But Ohio may the most critical swing state. President Bush won the state by just 30,000 votes in 2000, and both candidates believe they must win there to take the White House.

Republicans and Democrats have formally filed lists of challengers across the state who will patrol the polls on Election Day. These designated representatives may challenge individual voters -- as well as watch each other.

What they will be canvassing for: a voter who is not a resident of the precinct or who is not a citizen or 18 years-old.

Adding to the mix are so-called “provisional ballots” given to voters who show up at the wrong polling place. Even at this late hour, how these ballots will be issued and counted remains an undecided issue. A legal wrangle between Ohio Democrats and Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, a Republican, is now before a federal appeals court.

One election official told the Cincinnati Enquirer that in his opinion Ohio has never seen what's about to happen.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; gop; politicalcorrectness; politicalterror; votefraud
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1 posted on 10/23/2004 4:11:37 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

On January 16, the Congress will elect the president and vice-president after unparalleled Dem voter fraud turns the election into chaos.


2 posted on 10/23/2004 4:16:33 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

makes me feel alittle better that the republicans are on top of it


3 posted on 10/23/2004 4:17:37 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: truthandlife

It's about damn time


4 posted on 10/23/2004 4:18:18 PM PDT by clamper1797 (This Vietnam Vet is NOT Fonda kerry)
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To: truthandlife

I'm not going to play this game of suppression and intimidation," he said. "Voter fraud is voter fraud, no matter where it occurs."


You gotta just love this guy!


5 posted on 10/23/2004 4:18:32 PM PDT by Two Dawgs
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To: truthandlife

I'm not going to play this game of suppression and intimidation," he said. "Voter fraud is voter fraud, no matter where it occurs."


You gotta just love this guy!


6 posted on 10/23/2004 4:19:09 PM PDT by Two Dawgs
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To: truthandlife

How this voter registration nonsense got started is beyond me. People should be required to report to the government registration office in person. This nonsense of having George Soros hiring tens of thousands of teenagers and the chronically unemployed to march around with clipboards, figuring out new and novel ways to manufacture registered voters is an open invitation to fraud.


7 posted on 10/23/2004 4:21:33 PM PDT by orangelobster
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To: truthandlife

Just as long as they actually DO something about it instead of just making "plans."


8 posted on 10/23/2004 4:21:40 PM PDT by Luircin (PROUD to be a member of Generation W)
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To: truthandlife

democrats are going to screw around and start another civil war...


9 posted on 10/23/2004 4:24:04 PM PDT by go star go
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To: orangelobster
How this voter registration nonsense got started is beyond me.

It got started by ~40 solid years of one-party Democratic rule of Congress.

10 posted on 10/23/2004 4:24:27 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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To: go star go
democrats are going to screw around and start another civil war...

No they won't. If they win through fraud and intimidation, the GOP will sit around and grumble about it, but do absolutely nothing to fight back.

11 posted on 10/23/2004 4:25:36 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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To: truthandlife
"Democrats have out registered Republicans by a ratio of 5 to 1"

Well, at least it is not 35 to 1. Click image to see confession of a man that registered 35 times.



Yes, I edited the laughing part, but the rest is accurate. If you need the whole vid, FreepMail me.
12 posted on 10/23/2004 4:27:19 PM PDT by DocRock (Support the tagline tax relief fund. Donations can be made on my homepage.)
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To: truthandlife
The thing about phony registrations that come back as undeliverable is that they were collected by a bunch of scam artists out to make a buck.

You can register a million but with aprropriate poll monitoring only people who actually show up will cast ballots.

99% of those 14,000 aren't going to be showing up.

13 posted on 10/23/2004 4:28:06 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!)
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To: truthandlife
We need to develop some other system for the Registration of voters. Motor Voter did not work and paying people to register voters looks to be somewhat fraudulent.

Perhaps we need to use Social security Cards for voting. Any citizen with as SS Card could vote and we could get rid of the expense and corruption of Registration Drives.
14 posted on 10/23/2004 4:31:48 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: go star go

"democrats are going to screw around and start another civil war..."

Hey, I'm ready. If it has to be, it has to be. And we'll win that one, too.


16 posted on 10/23/2004 4:32:37 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Dont Mention the War

I wouldn't bet on that, if I were you. This is life and death we're talking about...and if the Dems steal the election through voter fraud, there will be HELL to pay. Trust me.


17 posted on 10/23/2004 4:33:22 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: orangelobster

Vote with ID and SS Card. No Registration Required and little latitude for fraud.


18 posted on 10/23/2004 4:34:06 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: Rome2000

What if the dims know which ones are fake? I've seen Election Judges and their clerks in dim-controlled precincts cast a ballot and sign for every voter who did no show up.


19 posted on 10/23/2004 4:34:12 PM PDT by darth
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To: truthandlife

I have a different take on all this. First, of course the DemonRats are going to lie, cheat, and steal. That is what their party represents, but, truth be known, we have had a Republican Congress and a Republican President and they have done nothing in the last 4 years to avoid the likely potential for massive voter fraud.

Where have they been? Why haven't they taken serious steps to overhaul the system? The very least they could have done would have been to require that every single voter provide some form of photo id before registering and voting!


20 posted on 10/23/2004 4:34:23 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: DocRock

And if he's not allowed to vote 35 times then he'll be "disenfranchised" no doubt!


21 posted on 10/23/2004 4:36:01 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: KavMan

I work with our local county chairman of the Republican party. She has been fighting voter fraud here for about 30 or 40 years. She will disqualify a voter or ballot if it is in error, even if it is for HER. When she was running for office she had to disqualify a ballot that was for her. But there were errors. She constantly checks the Obits in the paper to make sure that no dead people "vote".


22 posted on 10/23/2004 4:37:02 PM PDT by buffyt (We can fight terrorism THERE ~ or we can face terrorists HERE. I prefer over there.)
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To: Fruitbat

DISFRANCHISED 35 TIMES.


23 posted on 10/23/2004 4:38:04 PM PDT by buffyt (We can fight terrorism THERE ~ or we can face terrorists HERE. I prefer over there.)
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To: go star go
democrats are going to screw around and start another civil war...

Yeah, you, me and six other people are gonna RISE UP and take this republic back from tyranny.

The water is almost boiling and the frog still thinks it's in a sauna...

/cynicism /cynicism /cynicism
Damn, it's not working

24 posted on 10/23/2004 4:39:28 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (Do we still have the freedom to be responsible?)
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To: pete anderson

Thats not good either cos non-citizens can get SS cards too


25 posted on 10/23/2004 4:39:28 PM PDT by bushsupporter30
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To: truthandlife; Liz; Howlin
Jive Turkey Sr.

Jesse owns a home in Ohio - no?

26 posted on 10/23/2004 4:39:59 PM PDT by Libloather (NONE of Effin' Kerry's policies pass the Global Smell Test...)
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To: darth
Thats where the poll monitors come in.

Its not like the GOP doesn't know exactly what precincts are suspect.

27 posted on 10/23/2004 4:40:18 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!)
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To: Obadiah

In 2002 in South Florida Republicans fielded 600 poll watchers. Dems screamed foul, but it worked out very well. I was one.


28 posted on 10/23/2004 4:42:05 PM PDT by ClaireSolt
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To: darth
I've seen Election Judges and their clerks in dim-controlled precincts cast a ballot and sign for every voter who did no show up.

Can you prove this...or gather evidence this year?

29 posted on 10/23/2004 4:42:38 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (Do we still have the freedom to be responsible?)
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To: truthandlife

"Believing that Democrats are poised to engage in massive vote fraud in key battleground states, the Republican Party is planning to deploy thousands of monitors to challenge questionable voters. "

GOOD!


30 posted on 10/23/2004 4:44:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion (GET OUT THE VOTE. ENSURE A BUSH/CHENEY WIN.)
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To: truthandlife

Has anyone considered that the voter fraud might be between the 527s and their felon employees?

The fact that they hired anyone that breathed and paid them by the number of registration forms, of course they soon caught on to the fact that they could "make up voters" and get paid more.

These made up voters aren't going to vote.

The only thing that worries me is acorn trowing away republican registration forms of real voters.


31 posted on 10/23/2004 4:47:09 PM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: cf_river_rat

I have proof from a dim precinct in Texas (1996 election; I have copies of the official Voter Log where they signed in). Almost every signature is in the same handwriting. The FBI developed a keen interest until the Clinton Admin called them off and there was an attempt on the life of the Republican investigator who tipped them off.


32 posted on 10/23/2004 4:50:08 PM PDT by darth
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To: ODDITHER

You are correct and they the Dems don't care if they show up. They just want to make sure they have people on the voter role so that if (for example) 15,000 people are registered to vote in a precinct then at the end of the night when the DNC does their exit polling they know exactly how many votes they need to start punching and stuffing at the end of the night. As long as 15,000 are voting then everything seems legit.


33 posted on 10/23/2004 4:50:51 PM PDT by truthandlife (http://www.neverforgetneveragain.com -- If you want Bush re-elected pass on this video link!!!!)
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To: bushsupporter30
Yes, non citizens can get a SS Card but there is a much better verification process in existence than there is in each county.
34 posted on 10/23/2004 4:51:51 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson

This needs to go back to the old fashioned way of going to the Supervisor of Elections office in your county/city/parish, filling out the paperwork and taking the oath.

Why hasn't some brave soul in Congress done that already?


35 posted on 10/23/2004 4:54:04 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: truthandlife

I've just come from my class for being a poll watcher in Boulder Co. CO and I can tell you it is an absolute certainty that the Repubs are on top of this and taking it very seriously.

NOOOOOOOOOOO funny business is going down in my precinct on my watch. Even though Bush has no hope of winning Boulder CO. Only got about 35% last time around.


36 posted on 10/23/2004 5:00:51 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: ODDITHER

"The only thing that worries me is acorn trowing away republican registration forms of real voters."

In CO, if a person registered to vote during a voters drive, at a supermarket, etc, and they go to the polls to find out that their name does not appear, the election judge may, if the person meets specific criteria, do an emergency registration. The person will at least be given a provisional ballot.


37 posted on 10/23/2004 5:05:32 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: KavMan
Could someone tell me what our legislators have been doing this past four years? I can’t believe it is legal to pay people a certain amount for each new person that they sign up. That just invites fraud. If they don’t get these things fixed then it is time to clean house. It probably is anyway.
38 posted on 10/23/2004 5:11:26 PM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: truthandlife; All
Click the picture & goto "last" for the latest on Vote Fraud:


39 posted on 10/23/2004 5:13:41 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: truthandlife
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York.

It is one thing to register invalid voters and then determine whether or not they voted. It is indeed a tragedy where citizens would stoop so low as to vote in two states. I can see a few, but 46000, seems a lot to me.

If the registrations are with fake names, of dead, and ficticous, then those bodies would have to turn up to actually vote. That is where they get caught, unless the polling station folks are in a conspiracy to let everyone vote, as many times as they desire.

In some of the black polling places, in Philadelphia, St Louis, Detroit etc., Poll watcher are intimidated and in fact beat up.

Once ballots are cast, there is no way to tell who voted for who as the ballots have no names.

Ballot stuffing usually occurs with recounts. That is where we must hold the line.

40 posted on 10/23/2004 5:19:31 PM PDT by rstevens
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To: vrwcagent0498
This needs to go back to the old fashioned way of going to the Supervisor of Elections office in your county/city/parish, filling out the paperwork and taking the oath.

Would you like to add a literacy test or poll tax to that order Sir?

41 posted on 10/23/2004 5:21:51 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: Obadiah

They couldn't pass any meaningful legislation because the Rinos voted with the Democrats to stop any kind of voter ID because they were afraid they would be called BAD names. Rinos would rather be kicked out of office than have somebody say something bad about them. They ended up working together on the only thing they could pass - a gob of taxpayer $ spent for voting equipment to replace stuff that has worked fine for years and the "provisional" ballot crap that only leads to more potential for fraud.


42 posted on 10/23/2004 5:27:33 PM PDT by penowa
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To: rstevens
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York.

It is one thing to register invalid voters and then determine whether or not they voted. It is indeed a tragedy where citizens would stoop so low as to vote in two states. I can see a few, but 46000, seems a lot to me.

The only other explanation that I can come up with besides DIM cheating for this kind of thing would be a scenario like this:

Recently retired people move from NY to Fla (hey, it happens), and register to vote in Florida without calling their County Election office in NY and letting them know they can remove their name from the rolls.

But 46,000 sounds like a large number. How often do counties purge their registration lists?

43 posted on 10/23/2004 5:32:05 PM PDT by dayton law dude
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To: Rome2000

We still need to worry about the fakes Soros illegally put on the voter rolls.

Fox's brilliant legal analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano, presented this frightening scenario that hundreds upon hundreds of thousands are illegally registered by the Soros groups, and are primed to vote for Kerry.

Judge AN said the scheme works like this: people are registered in several names, then on election day individuals will be given lists and told in what precincts to vote, and in what name, so that one person could end up voting several times. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands (ugh).

In some precincts they had 98% voter registration which is patently impossible. The proliferation of false ID's is also a problem.

Dims have been trying to setup voters in advance by claiming legitimate questions raised about illegal voters is Republican harassment.

As FReeper Grampadave postulated: Voter fraud must be made one of the most severe crimes in America. Those who commit it go to jail. Those, who organize the voter fraud, lose their homes, savings and double the jail time.

Those who supposedly worked to insure a proper vote such as election officials if involved in voter fraud get the penalties above and maybe those listed below. Those who financed and controlled the organizers, are tried for treason and suffer the appropriate penalties.

Any illegal is put in jail for 3 years, his/her family is deported immediately. After the jail sentence, they are deported. No one in the family can ever come back to the states after deportation.

Undermining US elections----and democracy----deserves no less than this.


44 posted on 10/23/2004 5:46:41 PM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: truthandlife
I thought Afghanistans idea was good. Paint the voters thumbs phosphorous purple. You can never get it all off so it cant be seen with a blacklight.

And it's not disenfranchising anyone (except possibly the people who don't like their thumbs purple).
45 posted on 10/23/2004 5:53:30 PM PDT by Rich_E
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To: Liz

Simple. Mandatory 1 year in jail for submitting a fraudulent vote, mandatory that sentences are CONSECUTIVE, so the political operatives who submit dozens of fake votes go away forever.


46 posted on 10/23/2004 5:54:04 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: ClaireSolt

Thank you most kindly for your civil service.


47 posted on 10/23/2004 6:01:53 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Obadiah
The very least they could have done would have been to require that every single voter provide some form of photo id before registering and voting!

Can't do that, they don't want to offend the illegal immigrant vote. This is hugh ansd series and may cost the GOP the election. And while Rome burned the GOP sat on their thumbs.
48 posted on 10/23/2004 6:16:38 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: truthandlife
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York. The overwhelming number of double registrations were Democratic. <<--REMEMBER!..the difference between a con and a lib is:...a conservative bases his politics on his morals.....a liberal bases his morals on his politics....hence a liberal feels no guilt by voting more then once!
49 posted on 10/23/2004 6:27:31 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: truthandlife
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York. The overwhelming number of double registrations were Democratic. <<--REMEMBER!..the difference between a con and a lib is:...a conservative bases his politics on his morals.....a liberal bases his morals on his politics....hence a liberal feels no guilt by voting more then once!
50 posted on 10/23/2004 6:27:53 PM PDT by M-cubed
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