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GOP Plans to Wage War Against Vote Fraud
Newsmax ^ | 10/25/04

Posted on 10/23/2004 4:11:36 PM PDT by truthandlife

Believing that Democrats are poised to engage in massive vote fraud in key battleground states, the Republican Party is planning to deploy thousands of monitors to challenge questionable voters.

In a page one story in the New York Times Saturday, the paper said the Republican party in Ohio alone has identified about 35,000 new voters who they believe to be fraudulent or questionable.

The Republicans claimed that 35,000 new voters were sent a mailed notice confirming the registration. The party said in every case the U.S. Post Office returned the notice as "undeliverable."

In the Democratic bastion of Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) alone, Republicans discovered more than 14,000 questionable registrations.

To combat the possibility of massive vote fraud the Republicans plan on deploying thousands of operatives to challenge questionable new voters on election day.

The Times quoted Ohio officials as saying the Republican effort is one of the largest they have ever seen.

But the Republican Party's moves are defensive. The Times has reported that Ohio Democrats have out registered Republicans by a ratio of 5 to 1.

Democrat 527 groups have reportedly been spending between $150 million to $300 million this year on voter registration and turn out efforts.

Apparently those monies have helped create a wave of fraudulent registration programs.

For example, in Ohio election officials are reviewing the voter registration of Jive Turkey Sr., who was among 1,284 suspicious applications that Cuyahoga County, Ohio, election officials will turn over to prosecutors to investigate for potential fraud.

Last week, officials in Defiance County, Ohio, questioned the voter registration applications of Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and Michael Jordan.

The police said the man who created these registrations claimed he was paid in crack cocaine for his registration efforts by a representative of the NAACP.

The GOP’s watchdog plan has local voting officials in Ohio ramping up for unprecedented disruptions in the voting process and others crying racial foul because the Republicans have targeted areas with high numbers of minority voters.

But Robert Bennett, the state GOP chairman, says the demographic issues are moot. "I'm not going to play this game of suppression and intimidation," he said. "Voter fraud is voter fraud, no matter where it occurs."

Democratic Party operatives insist, however, that the GOP effort is nothing short of class warfare. "Their whole goal is to try to lessen the voter rank and file," Jimmy Dimora, head of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party, told the Plain Dealer.

Widespread Fraud

The Republicans are facing an increasingly ominous situation. They could actually win the election, but en up having it stolen during the ballot process.

Anecdotal and empirical evidence suggests the vote fraud is teetering on massive proportions, including reports:

# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York. The overwhelming number of double registrations were Democratic.

# The Orlando Sentinel examined voting records from Florida, Georgia and North Carolina. The found that in more than 68,000 cases voters with the same names and dates of birth were registered in two states.

But Ohio may the most critical swing state. President Bush won the state by just 30,000 votes in 2000, and both candidates believe they must win there to take the White House.

Republicans and Democrats have formally filed lists of challengers across the state who will patrol the polls on Election Day. These designated representatives may challenge individual voters -- as well as watch each other.

What they will be canvassing for: a voter who is not a resident of the precinct or who is not a citizen or 18 years-old.

Adding to the mix are so-called “provisional ballots” given to voters who show up at the wrong polling place. Even at this late hour, how these ballots will be issued and counted remains an undecided issue. A legal wrangle between Ohio Democrats and Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, a Republican, is now before a federal appeals court.

One election official told the Cincinnati Enquirer that in his opinion Ohio has never seen what's about to happen.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; gop; politicalcorrectness; politicalterror; votefraud
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To: vrwcagent0498
This needs to go back to the old fashioned way of going to the Supervisor of Elections office in your county/city/parish, filling out the paperwork and taking the oath.

Would you like to add a literacy test or poll tax to that order Sir?

41 posted on 10/23/2004 5:21:51 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: Obadiah

They couldn't pass any meaningful legislation because the Rinos voted with the Democrats to stop any kind of voter ID because they were afraid they would be called BAD names. Rinos would rather be kicked out of office than have somebody say something bad about them. They ended up working together on the only thing they could pass - a gob of taxpayer $ spent for voting equipment to replace stuff that has worked fine for years and the "provisional" ballot crap that only leads to more potential for fraud.


42 posted on 10/23/2004 5:27:33 PM PDT by penowa
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To: rstevens
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York.

It is one thing to register invalid voters and then determine whether or not they voted. It is indeed a tragedy where citizens would stoop so low as to vote in two states. I can see a few, but 46000, seems a lot to me.

The only other explanation that I can come up with besides DIM cheating for this kind of thing would be a scenario like this:

Recently retired people move from NY to Fla (hey, it happens), and register to vote in Florida without calling their County Election office in NY and letting them know they can remove their name from the rolls.

But 46,000 sounds like a large number. How often do counties purge their registration lists?

43 posted on 10/23/2004 5:32:05 PM PDT by dayton law dude
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To: Rome2000

We still need to worry about the fakes Soros illegally put on the voter rolls.

Fox's brilliant legal analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano, presented this frightening scenario that hundreds upon hundreds of thousands are illegally registered by the Soros groups, and are primed to vote for Kerry.

Judge AN said the scheme works like this: people are registered in several names, then on election day individuals will be given lists and told in what precincts to vote, and in what name, so that one person could end up voting several times. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands (ugh).

In some precincts they had 98% voter registration which is patently impossible. The proliferation of false ID's is also a problem.

Dims have been trying to setup voters in advance by claiming legitimate questions raised about illegal voters is Republican harassment.

As FReeper Grampadave postulated: Voter fraud must be made one of the most severe crimes in America. Those who commit it go to jail. Those, who organize the voter fraud, lose their homes, savings and double the jail time.

Those who supposedly worked to insure a proper vote such as election officials if involved in voter fraud get the penalties above and maybe those listed below. Those who financed and controlled the organizers, are tried for treason and suffer the appropriate penalties.

Any illegal is put in jail for 3 years, his/her family is deported immediately. After the jail sentence, they are deported. No one in the family can ever come back to the states after deportation.

Undermining US elections----and democracy----deserves no less than this.


44 posted on 10/23/2004 5:46:41 PM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: truthandlife
I thought Afghanistans idea was good. Paint the voters thumbs phosphorous purple. You can never get it all off so it cant be seen with a blacklight.

And it's not disenfranchising anyone (except possibly the people who don't like their thumbs purple).
45 posted on 10/23/2004 5:53:30 PM PDT by Rich_E
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To: Liz

Simple. Mandatory 1 year in jail for submitting a fraudulent vote, mandatory that sentences are CONSECUTIVE, so the political operatives who submit dozens of fake votes go away forever.


46 posted on 10/23/2004 5:54:04 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: ClaireSolt

Thank you most kindly for your civil service.


47 posted on 10/23/2004 6:01:53 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Obadiah
The very least they could have done would have been to require that every single voter provide some form of photo id before registering and voting!

Can't do that, they don't want to offend the illegal immigrant vote. This is hugh ansd series and may cost the GOP the election. And while Rome burned the GOP sat on their thumbs.
48 posted on 10/23/2004 6:16:38 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: truthandlife
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York. The overwhelming number of double registrations were Democratic. <<--REMEMBER!..the difference between a con and a lib is:...a conservative bases his politics on his morals.....a liberal bases his morals on his politics....hence a liberal feels no guilt by voting more then once!
49 posted on 10/23/2004 6:27:31 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: truthandlife
# In Fla., election officials founds 46,000 state residents also registered to vote in New York. The overwhelming number of double registrations were Democratic. <<--REMEMBER!..the difference between a con and a lib is:...a conservative bases his politics on his morals.....a liberal bases his morals on his politics....hence a liberal feels no guilt by voting more then once!
50 posted on 10/23/2004 6:27:53 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: truthandlife
I just sent another donation to the Bush campaign (GELAC?) for this specific purpose.

5.56mm

51 posted on 10/23/2004 6:34:21 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: truthandlife

Thank God above that the GOP is on the offensive and not about to roll over and let the lying, cheating democRATS steal this election like they tried in vain to do last time!


52 posted on 10/23/2004 6:37:07 PM PDT by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: dayton law dude
For about the fifth time on these various threads, let me point out that thre has never been anything strange or illegal about anyone (possibly including you or me) being registered to vote in two or more states, because that is how the law has always been written.

The importance of not depriving anyone of their vote meant that the laws REQUIRED that nobody be dropped from the voter rolls until they had missed at least one Presidential and one off-year election, which means there is a six-year period in which the voter roll was REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE INACCURATE for any specific person.

I personally knew the (Republican) Supervisor of Elections in Broward County Jane Carroll and many of her staff, and I can state without fear of contradiction that I was on the Broward voter roll for almost 8 years after I moved EVEN THOUGH I CALLED THEM EVERY YEAR to be sure to remove my name. They explained that the law did not permit that. I had to NOT VOTE for a period of 6 years, then they could start the process. My deceased father was on the same voter roll for almost 10 years for the very same reason, even though I notified them repeatedly.

And this was in a Republican-run office where they WANTED to be accurate but were prevented by law from being accurate. This was of course before motor-voter law was passed, and who knows what the law requires now.

53 posted on 10/23/2004 6:41:11 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: dayton law dude

Read post 49-50...There's your answer!!!


54 posted on 10/23/2004 6:56:59 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Obadiah

Honest people sometimes have trouble believing that others are not the same;it is especially difficult for many to accept that their friends and co-workers hate work and desire utopian socialism.(of course,it never brings anything but suffering,but fools still fall for it.)


55 posted on 10/23/2004 7:00:43 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: truthandlife

That must be how the Indians vote in South Dakota.


56 posted on 10/23/2004 7:02:54 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Dont Mention the War
No they won't. If they win through fraud and intimidation, the GOP will sit around and grumble about it, but do absolutely nothing to fight back.

Oh really?? Where were you in 2000?

57 posted on 10/23/2004 7:05:12 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry is flipping off America!)
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To: pete anderson

Um, point out to me what is wrong with my answer, Mr. Smarminess.

We did it this way for years before Klintoon & Co. passed the Motor Voter Registration.


58 posted on 10/23/2004 7:07:37 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: pete anderson

BTW, I'd also like to add The US Constitution I and Basic Economics to that order.


59 posted on 10/23/2004 7:11:31 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: truthandlife

"But Robert Bennett, the state GOP chairman, says the demographic issues are moot. "I'm not going to play this game of suppression and intimidation," he said. "Voter fraud is voter fraud, no matter where it occurs."


Exactly. You don't get a pass just because you're a minority. And that should go for EVERYTHING.


60 posted on 10/23/2004 7:12:25 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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