Posted on 10/24/2004 6:54:31 AM PDT by finnigan2
I had a Canadian friend who went to the hospital because she hurt her back at her health club. She came home after the x-ray and woke up the next day with a staff infection on both ears where the xray machine had held her head. They had to treat the infection before they could do anything about the back. It was very serious.
I'm so glad he mentioned this because I think he's absolutely right.
So what's the best way to deal with this?
a) encourage birth control
b) slaughter them
c) stick our heads in the sand and ignore the problem
I mean the perfect storm the Europeans will face within this decade, because their lavish welfare states are unsustainable on their shriveled post-Christian birth rates.
I'm glad he mentioned this too because I think he's right. But
"America's emergency rooms are becoming the providers of last resort for a system that now consumes 58 percent of our gross domestic product, yet leaves 44 million people without insurance coverage. And tens of millions of people are literally one illness away from personal bankruptcy"
from a speech recently delivered by John A. Kitzhaber, MD - an emergency physician and governor of Oregon from 1995 to 2003. For those interested in reasing the full speech; it was the James D. Mills Memorial Lecture.
In addition to the financial problems of our health care system we have an enormous government debt and an enormous balance of payments debt - and are facing skyrocketing oil prices. I doubt very much that these problems will be solved by increasing our birth rate.
STEYN-O-MITE!
Great statement and probably the truth were we to know it.
This constant whining about a shortage of nurses and such is because the nurses association, which tries to get more pay for them (not undeserved, may I say, since it is hard work)likes to emphasize the shortage.
You don't know what you're talking about. I'm on a local rural hospital board. We face the problem of finding nurses on a daily basis.
Also, some hospitals are in trouble because of high insurance premiums on hospitals due to TRIAL LAWYERS.
Yes. Legal costs are a big problem which must be addressed. But they're not the major problem - which is that medical costs are INHERENTLY EXPENSIVE. There's NO WAY a society can afford to provide needed and wanted services to everyone.
What you "know" is a compilation of democrat talking points.
What I know comes from a couple of years of volunteer service on the Board of Directors of a small rural hospital (in a very Republican district)- trying to keep it viable. It's a hell of a lot more than you know.
What we've concluded is that the only way to save the hospital is to raise local taxes. The alternative - closing the hospital - is far worse.
They do understand. They use the drug of Utopian idealism to lull the masses into a numbed stupor. Pliable.
I think this is a fundemental reason that conservatives don't understand liberals. The socialist Democrats want to centralize power in government and having a few die here and there (though a shame) is simply the cost of doing business.
Steyn alludes to the elderly being left behind in socialized medicine. The fact is that if a hospital needs the beds the elderly are sent home regardless of their condition.
So, anyone else here have a parent that was hospitalized when they were about 65 and lived healthy and happily another 10 years?
We have exactly the same problems in Canada, and no hope of their ever being addressed, much less solved. The answer to all problems (the official answer anyway) is to whine and blame others and scream "I WANT IT!" repeatedly in the hope that someone will give you an ice cream to shut you up.
I am an American living in Canada and I have been in contact with the health care system several times. With the exception of my family doctor, whom I found through a friend at work, the entire system was surly, unpolished, slow and disorganized. (For example, I had bleeding behind my retina and the only specialist I could contact could not see me for four months! I actually had two optometrists tell me that they were late to pick up their children at daycare, and I should go to the emergency room if I thought there was a problem. A trip to the emergency room and a titanic American tantrum got me seen on the spot. But why should I have to go through that to get an emergency declared an emergency?)
I lived in the United States for fifty years and my parents were the bluest of blue collars with five children, and we never lacked health care in any way. But then my parents knew how to prioritize. Americans know these things, but the howling is coming from those that not only don't know them, but don't think they ought to be required to know them. You can find money for beer and cigarettes and to pay a scalper for hockey tickets; you can certainly use that money to pay for health care, too.
So well reasoned it brings tears to my eyes. Why is our populace so blind?
STEYN RULES!
His mind is like the red hot metal of the edge of a knife.
Personal experience.
I was an L.A. County ocean lifeguard for more than a quarter of a century. We had a paramedic unit which serviced inland communities as well. Those guys were friends of mine. They'd tell me how often they had to deal with very serious problems which occured because people couldn't afford medical care at earlier stages.
I've heard the same thing repeatedly from doctors who are friends.
The reason emergency rooms like King-Drew are closing is because illegals use them as their primary care facility for such ailments as sore throats, etc.
Right. But the problem isn't going away and neither Presidential candidate has offered to close the borders or deport the illegals. And it's not unique to King-Drew. And illegals are not the only poor people putting a strain on emergency rooms.
LL, you're a typical lib who speaks with conviction from what you read but without experience - in this case, one would have to work in the health care business to adequately understand the issues.
I work in the health care business as I've repeatedly said in my posts on this thread...and as you would know if you could read. I talk to all those hard-working doctors and nurses on a regular basis.
My experience has been that service in rural areas is wonderful...but that it's very limited compared to big city hospitals because they cannot afford specialists. Telemedicine and collegiality offer promise of remedying that.
Of course, if you're rich none of this applies.
we never lacked health care in any way. But then my parents knew how to prioritize.
50 years ago medicine was much cheaper. Doctors made house calls. Illegals were not a problem. The economy was much better.
excellent! bttt
Thank you for your support of President Bush, anonymoussierra.
We Americans are thankful that Poland is one of our strongest allies in the war on terror.
"Thank you for your support of President Bush, anonymoussierra.
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Mark Steyn is a BRILLIANT writer whom I love to read.
Outstanding commentary! One of his best.
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!!BUMP!! I do love Mark Steyn.
You know Larry, I'm not discounting your personal experience, but the number (44 mil?) of 'uninsured' batted about by some needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Not so long ago, Blue Cross/Blue Shield did a study and found a percentage of these 'uninsured' made $75K per year but chose not to have health insurance. I work with one of those by the way. Also, my brother-in-law is an adminstrator at a large hospital and they don't turn anyone away for anything so your claim of "many, many are dying because they can't afford to get any service at all", does not jive with what my brother-in-law tells me. I know there are many in this country who don't have health insurance but they do have health care.
The "War On Terrorism" is nothing. It is a minor offshoot of the war on European peoples, and in that war George W. Bush is on the other side. He favors letting Turkey join the EU, and he favors mass immigration, Islamic or otherwise, into the West (one of the outcomes of the Iraq war will be allowing thousands of these b****rds to immigrate here, mark my words).
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