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No Time for Kerry's Europhile Delusions ( Steyn Alert )
Chicago Sun Times ^ | October 24, 2004 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/24/2004 6:54:31 AM PDT by finnigan2

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To: HighlyOpinionated
Had he needed the MRI in the USofA, he'd have gone to the emergency room for the initial medical problem and then been sent to Xray while his wife was signing the papers down in Admitting.

I'm not sure tht's true of big cities nowadays.

81 posted on 10/24/2004 2:21:45 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: finnigan2
Iraq's messy. So? What isn't? America has no Colonial Office, no political administrators with decades of experience in far-flung climes; its occupation of Iraq was learnt on the fly, because there was no other way.

This is exactly the argument I've been trying to make to my idiot liberal friends. Ever hear of asymmetric warfare? Look up 'asymmetric' in the dictionary and tell me if you can plot a course on something asymmetric!

82 posted on 10/24/2004 2:29:17 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: liberallarry
Hospitals aren't getting paid. That's why they're closing.

Yep.

How come these people can manage to get paid? It is called a market economy.

Capitalism. It Just Works! TM

83 posted on 10/24/2004 2:45:06 PM PDT by ottothedog
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To: finnigan2
"Osama is lying low because he's in no condition to get up."

Hahahahaha!!!

84 posted on 10/24/2004 4:23:22 PM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: finnigan2

I think this is the best Steyn piece of all I've read.
And I too have believed binLaden to be dead for a few years at least. It's the Left who still needs him to be alive to function as a prop for one of their current campaign "arguments". There is simply no reason for him to be alive when he suddenly and mysteriously "stops" creating videos and making Jihad statements. He's dead. But, no irony here, it's the Left who still contends he's alive and so they've had to create him over as a Legendary Outlaw Underground Folk Hero, because, apparently he's THEIR kind of hero. That's just the way the equation works out.


85 posted on 10/24/2004 4:34:15 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: ottothedog
Capitalism. It Just Works!

Think so? Think all these people who put together public programs were just dummies huh?

Well then all you have to do is vote out all forms of public assistance; - deny emergency room care to those who can't pay, cut off Medicare and all state assistance, cease funding public education and medical education, no free vaccines against communicable diseases, etc., etc., and....

Paradise, here I come!!!

P.S. don't forget to cut off all the pork from which you benefit.

86 posted on 10/24/2004 5:27:26 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: finnigan2
I'm Canadian, so I know a thing or two about prescription drugs from Canada. Specifically speaking, I know they're American; the only thing Canadian about them is the label in French and English.

OUCH! More and more democRATic talking points are revealed as nothing else but cheap demagoguery and shameless attempts to confuse the uninformed.

87 posted on 10/24/2004 6:21:50 PM PDT by eclectic (Falluja delenda est)
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To: finnigan2

ping for later


88 posted on 10/24/2004 6:36:46 PM PDT by skikvt
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To: Chaguito

Why is our populace so blind?




Because conservatives made a huge mistake by allowing dermo-crats (dermo being the Russian word for what a dog leaves on the neighbor's lawn) an unchallenged monopoly of the public school system.

We've taken the first steps to correcting that oversight with home schooling and proposing vouchers, but we have an uphill battle both ways to get back in the game of teaching U.S. history and civics to tomorrow's voters.


89 posted on 10/24/2004 7:41:46 PM PDT by Lady Tarheel
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To: RottiBiz

We Americans are thankful that Poland is one of our strongest allies in the war on terror.




Second that.


90 posted on 10/24/2004 7:43:21 PM PDT by Lady Tarheel
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To: eclectic
Not all the drugs in Canada come from the states. Some may come from Ireland, some from Bangladesh, and some number of them are not what is listed on the label. Because Canada is a small market, the US drugmakers will supply at a lower cost, it is marginal production. The companies know that if they don't supply at the requested Ottawa price, then Ottawa will find a substitute in Europe. I was led to believe that the Canadian taxpayers are subsidizing the program, but that is not really true.

There is still an issue for the Dems because Bush won't go to a government purchasing system (like the VA uses) for Medicaid and Medicare. So they say we are hurting "seniors" and making big money for the drug companies. But the research money must come from somewhere, or all we will have is generics - and no new drugs. I'll be getting a new cancer drug this week.

The underlying issue is that many folks want everything to be an entitlement program. I'd rather you pay some of what you get - and we have charity for people who really can't pay. But too many want programs for those who do not need it so some number of others don't have to go to be embarrassed to go to the "Senior Welfare Office".
91 posted on 10/24/2004 8:00:14 PM PDT by DmBarch
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To: liberallarry
What we lack is efficiency in our health care system. What is needed is private health care accounts and less paperwork for health care providers. Coming to the conclusion that our health care system is burdened by overpopulation is just wrong, as the number of health care providers is proportional to the population.
92 posted on 10/24/2004 8:10:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Lady Tarheel

Yup. I teach in a Christian high school and what you say has penetrated even to our hallowed halls to some extent.


93 posted on 10/24/2004 8:19:51 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Moonman62
What we lack is efficiency in our health care system.

We sure could use more of it...and less burdensome and meaningless government regulation, and less frivolous, more reasonable limits to law suits.

Coming to the conclusion that our health care system is burdened by overpopulation is just wrong

Did I lead you to believe that was my conclusion? Sorry I didn't mean to. My conclusion is that our health care system is overburdened by increasingly large numbers of people who can't pay for mandated services.

94 posted on 10/24/2004 8:21:28 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: DmBarch
the research money must come from somewhere

I'd like to see a real analysis of the drug industry.

Are the drug companies doing the research...or is the NIH? Are the drug companies tremendously profitable or do they plow most of their profits into research? What role, if any, do insurance companies play in this and how profitable are they? What role does the government play? Are there monopoly issues, serious regulatory exclusions, etc.?

As usual politics plays a big role. Drug companies lobby heavily to get laws they want. What laws are those and why do they want them?

95 posted on 10/24/2004 8:29:27 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Sorry about the confusion on the population issue. I think drug companies play the third party payer system to the hilt. Some new drugs offer so little improvement over older drugs that I doubt people would buy them if they had to pay out of their own pockets.

And I'm all for government funded research, because it's one of the few things the government does that actually pays off, but I doubt the drug companies would like it very much if a new discovery clobbered the market for one their drugs.

96 posted on 10/24/2004 8:37:42 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Moonman62

The drug companies. Sigh... I know too little about them to comment.


97 posted on 10/24/2004 8:45:45 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

Most of the drug companies are public. If someone thinks they are getting away with highway robbery, they can buy stock in them. The problem is the system is broken, and the companies work within that system to make their living.


98 posted on 10/24/2004 8:58:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: liberallarry
If you don't have any money all the prioritizing and rational decisions in the world won't help you.

If you don't have any money, that is your problem and can only be remedied by you. To believe in anything else is to believe that all of us must be enslaved to the worst of us.

People are fundamentally and inherently different. Not everyone can be wealthy or successful...or rational and clever. When times are really hard, like during the depression, great numbers of people are really poor.

Last time I checked, the Great Depression was a historical oddity. Besides, I knew a lot of people who lived through it, and they didn't find it nearly as bad as its hype. Back then, people didn't have Tom, Peter, and Dan to tell them how miserable they were.

But slightly higher unemployment rates do not mean that everyone is suddenly poor. And among those that do lose their jobs, prioritizing and rational decisions make a huge difference in how long they are out of work and how miserable they are when they are out of work.

The really telling thing is the fact that the people you champion are miserable no matter how good the economy is. The problem is with them, not the rest of us.

99 posted on 10/25/2004 5:31:01 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
If you don't have any money, that is your problem and can only be remedied by you.

Recognition of our limited powers and our responsibility to others has been with us for a long time. It is at the heart of most major religions.

To believe in anything else is to believe that all of us must be enslaved to the worst of us

That's a really pejorative way of characterizing a basic truth. The poor, the weak, the stupid, the ugly, the criminal, the failed are always with us...unless we decide to kill them en masse.

100 posted on 10/25/2004 6:22:30 AM PDT by liberallarry
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