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NBC BLOWS A HOLE IN NY TIMES' EXPLOSIVES STORY (KERRY SPOT)
The Kerry Spot, NRO ^ | 10/25/04 | Jim miclacevski

Posted on 10/25/2004 6:26:01 PM PDT by Timeout

KERRY SPOT

Jim Miklaszewski of NBC News pretty much dismantled the New York Times attack on behalf of Kerry today.

NBC News: Miklaszewski: “April 10, 2003, only three weeks into the war, NBC News was embedded with troops from the Army's 101st Airborne as they temporarily take over the Al Qakaa weapons installation south of Baghdad. But these troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing. The U.S. troops did find large stockpiles of more conventional weapons, but no HMX or RDX, so powerful less than a pound brought down Pan Am 103 in 1988, and can be used to trigger a nuclear weapon. In a letter this month, the Iraqi interim government told the International Atomic Energy Agency the high explosives were lost to theft and looting due to lack of security. Critics claim there were simply not enough U.S. troops to guard hundreds of weapons stockpiles, weapons now being used by insurgents and terrorists to wage a guerrilla war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 10/25/04)

If Jill Abramson, managing editor of the New York Times, had a shred of concern over her paper's reputation for getting the facts right never mind objectivity or fairness, she would be running the correction - or at least this blatantly contradictory information - in the giant headline font and above-the-fold location that today's story got. But I guess the interest in echoing the sentiments of Maureen Dowd is more important than getting it right at the Old Gray Lady.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: explosives; iraq; jillabramson; kerry; mediawingofthednc; nbcnews; newyorktimes; nyt; nytrogate; wot
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To: Illinois Rep

A figment of Times imagination possibly


441 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:03 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Timeout
To the NY Times: Merry Christmas Mr. Potter! It is a wonderful life!!!
442 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:09 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: BlindGuardian

Hannity's interview was taped over the weekend. Shawn did mention tonight the NBC report to Dennis DeConcini--- I believe he just stammered out a response.


443 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:20 PM PDT by bella1 (bella1)
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To: FL_engineer

"How many (if any) RATS were suckered into criticizing Bush for this

and will have to backpeddle now that it was the U.N. at fault? "

HAHA! All part of the rope-a-dope. Didn't Kerry say that this was Bush's biggest example of incompetence in a speech today?

Kerry's the dope on a rope.


444 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:26 PM PDT by hansel
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To: theDentist

HAH! Kerry will be forced to flip-flop first thing in the morning.


445 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:29 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: mylife; StarFan

:-)

This October surprise has twists & turns.


446 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:34 PM PDT by lainie
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To: cookcounty
Yup. Nice of NBC to mention it, but Rush got there first.

That's why I couldn't believe Special Report led off tonight's episode with the Times "story". What are search engines for - passengers at airports?

447 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:37 PM PDT by auboy (Ode to Massachusetts: You can have him, we don't want him.)
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To: All
RUSH was ahead of everybody on this. He reported this scam this morning on his award-winning show--that this was 19-month old news and that the weapons were already gone when our troops arrived there.

Yawn . . . this is old news to me . . . Listen to Rush and you'd have learned this almost 12 hours ago.

448 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:00 PM PDT by Babu
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To: HomeSlice
Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle!!!! A newbie that isn't a troll!!!! Welcome to FR!!!!!!

BTW, this is what Bush is going to do to Kerry on election day.


449 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:06 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (God is not mocked. For whatever a man sows, that is what he reaps.)
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To: Illinois Rep
Looks more and more like WMD may have well been there but the UN and the oil for food disgraceful nations have covered it up really well?

This just gets better and better! By Nov. 2, Koffi will be brought to his knees!

450 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:11 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Goose hunt? Looked more like a snipe hunt to me.)
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To: maica

You're welcome. T'was my pleasure. :D


451 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:12 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: Dog
So what is going on ...I just spent 3 hours in a planning board meeting and have been out of the news loop.

I have a 4.5 hr meeting tomorrow. Yeehaw.

I always rush out after my meetings and hit Drudge (FR blocked at work). I have to be careful with him during the day as his page often refreshes while I'm talking with clients, with understandable distraction.

452 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:38 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: Lunkhead_01
I guess the Old Gray Lady has Alzheimers!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Dementia, senility, short term memory.......yep, they done got it all.

453 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:45 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Timeout

Today: October 25, 2004 at 12:23:42 PDT

U.N.: Tons of Explosives Missing in Iraq
By WILLIAM J. KOLE
ASSOCIATED PRESS

VIENNA, Austria (AP) -

1025iaea-iraq Several hundred tons of conventional explosives were looted from a former Iraqi military facility that once played a key role in Saddam Hussein's efforts to build a nuclear bomb, the U.N. nuclear agency told the Security Council on Monday.

A "lack of security" resulted in the loss of 377 tons of high explosives from the sprawling Al-Qaqaa military installation about 30 miles south of Baghdad, International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei said.

The IAEA fears "that these explosives could have fallen into the wrong hands," said spokeswoman Melissa Fleming.

The development immediately became an issue on the U.S. presidential campaign trail, with the White House downplaying the threat from the missing cache of weapons but Sen. John Kerry's campaign calling the disappearance a "grave and catastrophic mistake."

ElBaradei told the council the IAEA had been trying to give the U.S.-led multinational force and Iraq's interim government "an opportunity to attempt to recover the explosives before this matter was put into the public domain."

But since the disappearance was reported in the media, he said he wanted the Security Council to have the letter dated Oct. 10 that he received from Mohammed J. Abbas, a senior official at Iraq's Ministry of Science and Technology, reporting the theft of the explosives.

The materials were lost through "the theft and looting of the governmental installations due to lack of security," the letter said.

The letter from Abbas informed the IAEA that since Sept. 4, 2003, looting at the Al-Qaqaa installation south of Baghdad had resulted in the loss of 214.67 tons of HMX, 155.68 tons of RDX and 6.39 tons of PETN explosives.

HMX and RDX can be used to demolish buildings, down jetliners, produce warheads for missiles and detonate nuclear weapons. HMX and RDX are key ingredients in plastic explosives such as C-4 and Semtex - substances so powerful that Libyan terrorists needed just 1 pound to blow up Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, killing 170 people.

ElBaradei's cover letter to the council said the HMX had been under IAEA seal and the RDX and PETN were "both subject to regular monitoring of stock levels."

"The presence of these amounts was verified by the IAEA in January 2003," he said.

At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said U.S.-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter, the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Iraqis told the nuclear agency the materials were stolen and looted because of a lack of security at governmental installations, Fleming said.

"We do not know what happened to the explosives or when they were looted," she told AP.

A European diplomat familiar with the disappearance of the explosives said their presence was widely known.

The Associated Press drove past the compound Monday and saw no visible security at the gates of the site, a jumble of low-slung, yellow storage buildings that appeared deserted.

Iraq's interim government warned the United States and U.N. nuclear inspectors earlier this month that the explosives had vanished.

"Upon receiving the declaration on Oct. 10, we first took measures to authenticate it," Fleming said. "Then on Oct. 15, we informed the multinational forces through the U.S. government with the request for it to take any appropriate action in cooperation with Iraq's interim government.

Bush's national security adviser, Condoleeza Rice, was informed after Oct. 15, and then she notified Bush, the White House said.

During an Air Force One trip Monday between Texas and Colorado, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the administration's first concern was whether it was a nuclear proliferation threat, and it had determined it was not.

"Remember at the end of Operation Iraqi Freedom there was some looting, and some of it was organized," McClellan said. "There were munitions caches spread throughout the country, and so these are all issues that are being looked into by the multinational forces and the Iraqi Survey Group."

The probe will include finding out what happened to the weapons and whether they are being used against U.S. forces, he said.

In Washington, a spokesman for Kerry's campaign said the Bush administration "must answer for what may be the most grave and catastrophic mistake in a tragic series of blunders in Iraq."

"How did they fail to secure ... tons of known, deadly explosives despite clear warnings from the International Atomic Energy Agency to do so?" senior Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart said in a statement.

"They were urgently and specifically informed that terrorists could be helping themselves to the most dangerous explosives bonanza in history, but nothing was done to prevent it from happening."

Before the war, inspectors with the Vienna-based IAEA had kept tabs on the so-called "dual use" explosives because they could have been used to detonate a nuclear weapon. Experts say HMX can be used to create a highly powerful explosion with enough intensity to ignite the fissile material in an atomic bomb and set off a nuclear chain reaction.

IAEA inspectors pulled out of Iraq just before the 2003 invasion and have not yet been able to return despite ElBaradei's repeated urging that the experts be allowed back in to finish their work.

ElBaradei told the Security Council before the war that Iraq's nuclear program was in disarray and that there was no evidence to suggest it had revived efforts to build atomic weaponry.

Saddam was known to have used the Al-Qaqaa site to make conventional warheads, and IAEA inspectors dismantled parts of his nuclear program there before the 1991 Gulf War. The experts also oversaw the destruction of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons.

The nuclear agency pulled out of Iraq in 1998, and by the time it returned in 2002, it confirmed that 35 tons of HMX that had been placed under IAEA seal were missing.

ElBaradei told the United Nations in February 2003 that Iraq had declared that "HMX previously under IAEA seal had been transferred for use in the production of industrial explosives, primarily to cement plants as a booster for explosives used in quarrying."

"However, given the nature of the use of high explosives, it may well be that the IAEA will be unable to reach a final conclusion on the end use of this material," ElBaradei warned at the time.

"A large quantity of these explosives were under IAEA seal because they do have a nuclear application," Fleming said Monday.

The nuclear agency has no concrete evidence to suggest the seals were broken, Fleming said, but a diplomat familiar with the agency's work in Iraq said the seals must have been broken if the explosives were stolen.

IAEA analysts have viewed satellite photographs of Al-Qaqaa, and only two storage bunkers showed damage that may have occurred in bombing during the war, an agency source told AP. The other bunkers were intact.

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454 posted on 10/25/2004 8:02:46 PM PDT by oldbrowser (seared...........SEARED)
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To: Kylie_04

Personally, I'd be much happier if the WashTimes wasn't owned by Reverend Sun Moon, who is, there is no other way to put this, a whacko.


455 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:00 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: hansel

I'm sure they'll find a way to blame Bush. For example "why didn't we secure the weapons BEFORE liberating the country?" or "If we wouldn't have invaded, the weapons would still be there."


456 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:00 PM PDT by freakboy
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To: theDentist
That was great! Still Laughing!
457 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:19 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: Txsleuth

"I'm sitting here watching Scarborough and on their "newsbreak" the ditz that was reading the news, repeated the missing weapons cache story and said that Kerry said that it "proved" Bush's incompetence in the war in Iraq and that Clinton agreed that this proved that Bush blew it. (paraphrased) Anyway, MSNBC LIVE is still reporting is as a big story."

I fear they'll be more of the same tomorrow. I think we're all kidding ourselves to think the MSM will have some "HUGE" retraction tomorrow. Anything positive for Bush won't make the headlines. The NYslimes provided Kerry's daily stump talking points, as usual. No matter if the story is true or not, it's already provided the smear intended. I just hope the Bush people use this to their advantage.


458 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:36 PM PDT by gs-conserv
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To: Babu

Babu, ala Seinfeld?


459 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:53 PM PDT by freakboy
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To: All

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460 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:54 PM PDT by carolinaoutdoorsman
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