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NY Times Flashback: Paper Reported Saddam Transferred High Explosives
Newsmax ^ | 10/27/04 | With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 10/27/2004 1:36:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie

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To: Mo1

Exactly, algore. I had forgotten that clip that Hannity has of him saying, "He betrayed our country, he played on our fears".

It is going to be so funny if Kerry goes off the deep end like algore...HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 10/27/2004 2:42:36 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: MNJohnnie
On Feb. 15, 2003, the Times reported on an address to the United Nations Security Council by Mohamed ElBaradei, the UN's chief nuclear watchdog. In quotes covered extensively by the paper, ElBaradei shared his concern about the removal of high explosives from facilities like Al Qaqaa

What Happened to Missing Iraq Explosives

Q. Why didn't U.S. troops make an effort earlier than May 27, 2003 to secure the explosives?

A. It appears that there were no orders for them to search for high explosives — only for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. Saddam's alleged hidden stockpiles of these weapons of mass destruction were the Bush administration's justification for the war. The nuclear agency had warned about HMX in a report to the United Nations in February 2003 but did not specifically mention Al-Qaqaa.

22 posted on 10/27/2004 3:02:59 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Kristarrah

I received the same reply.

This is the part that had me steamed:

"This story will, I am sure, continue to play out over the next several days. If The Times is indeed in error, that is certain to become clear, and I will say so in print."

Sure Okrent, like on November 3rd. What a lying POS!


23 posted on 10/27/2004 3:05:06 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Old media = lies. New media = truth.)
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To: Kristarrah

That's exactly the one I got. Pathetic.


24 posted on 10/27/2004 3:39:28 PM PDT by Leonora
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To: Kristarrah
If The Times is indeed in error, that is certain to become clear, and I will say so in print.

Yeah, sure. On page E-57, right next to the obits.

25 posted on 10/27/2004 3:42:23 PM PDT by snopercod (Inflation, it's how wars are paid for.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Either these guys at the NYT are the dumbest people on the planet, or they think we are.

The full conversion of the NYT to a laughingstock is now complete.


26 posted on 10/27/2004 4:08:09 PM PDT by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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To: MNJohnnie
I wrote the following letter to the NYTimes editor:

"When you last wrote to me, you said, "...you--and I--examine(about the explosives) each charge and countercharge very carefully, and examine the evidence fully before reaching conclusions."

Now, you're submitting a "flashback" about the explosives that constitutes "breaking news." I was right about you debasing our President.

Your policy should be changed from "The news that's fit to print" to "The news that's printed to fit."

I had a "flashback" revealing to me that NYTimes and you are really sinking in your own slime!"

27 posted on 10/27/2004 4:32:09 PM PDT by GOPologist
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To: MNJohnnie

These lying sacks of puke in the NYT, CBS, UN, Kerry campaign .. they think we're so dumb we won't be able to find out this information.

They are beyond disgust!


28 posted on 10/27/2004 4:34:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: MNJohnnie
As exciting as ti find is, the article quoted refers to 32 tons. The New NYT article refers to 380 tons. However Baradei's quotes from Feb. '03 do indicate they were having an accounting problem as far as the HMX went.


I also question if the IAEA ever relocated that material out of Al Qa Qaa some time ago as they stated their intentions were back in '93.............


The IAEA was supposed to have made sure the HMX materials were transferred out of Al Qa Qaa years ago to a safer location.

This is at bottom of page 5 into page 6 ........

" Two hundred fifty-five tons of high explosive of the HMX type are stored under IAEA seal in six bunkers at the Al Qa Qaa site. As a typical dual-use material, HMX is listed in annex 3 to the plan. The present storage conditions of MMX at Al Qa Qaa are inconvenient for monitoring and cause some safety concerns. IAEA has requested that the Iraqi side consolidate the HMX in a safer and more convenient place to facilitate sealing and regular monitoring. The IAEA-20 team evaluated two large bunkers in the Muthanna complex which Iraq had proposed as an alternative storage location. With minor improvement over the current storage conditions at Al Qa Qaa. The transfer of the HMX is expected to take place during the IAEA-22.

http://www.iaea.org/OurWork/SV/Invo/reports/s_26685.pdf

I figure the materials were either ...

- moved as planned but somehow later decided by the IAEA that Al Qa Qaa was a safe storage facility afterall and moved it back.

- The IAEA never followed through with it's stated plan to move the materials.

- It was moved but a new batch was allowed to be stored at Al Qa Qaa.

It is puzzling to me why and how these materials, according to the inspectors, were sealed and in the Al Qa Qaa facility as late as early 2003.

Do we need to question the inspectors record keeping?

Could use some help further researching if the materials were ever moved.
29 posted on 10/27/2004 6:03:25 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: MNJohnnie

Synchronized Spinning

During the summer, the Kerry campaign claimed, without evidence, that the Bush campaign was illegally "coordinating" with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Now it appears the Kerry campaign is coordinating with the New York Times. Consider:

On Monday, the Times published an article (since largely discredited) claiming that tons of powerful explosives were "missing" in Iraq, and it was President Bush's fault.

On Tuesday, the Times "reported" that "Mr. Bush never mentioned the disappearance of the high explosives during a Long campaign speech in Greeley, Colo."

Today, the Times quotes Kerry as saying yesterday in Green Bay, Wis.: "What did the president have to say about the missing explosives? Not a word. Complete silence."

Meanwhile, yesterday the Kerry campaign released a new advertisement that prominently displays the New York Times' Monday headline.

The Monday Times article was partly reported by people from CBS's "60 Minutes," which is known to have coordinated with the Kerry campaign in the past.

One of the authors of Monday's Times piece is David Sanger. In July, Kerry told the Times: "I believe if you talk with Warren Hoge or you talk to David Sanger, you talk to other people around the world, they will confirm to you, I believe, that it may well take a new president to restore America's credibility on a global basis so that we can deal with other countries and bring people back into alliances."
The news media, of course, are exempt from the campaign finance restrictions on coordinating with campaigns. This column fervently supports that exemption, and indeed we think it should be extended to cover everyone else. But as a journalistic matter, it's bad form for a newspaper--and especially its news department, as distinct from the editorial page--to work on behalf of one candidate.

-- BEST OF THE WEB TODAY


30 posted on 10/27/2004 6:06:32 PM PDT by OESY
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To: MNJohnnie

WHERE IS NIGHTLINES COVERAGE OF THIS!!!!!

NY Times,CBS & Kerry: Conspiracy To Divert Attention From Bombshell Documents?
10/27/2004

Posted on 10/27/2004 8:11:50 PM PDT by notkerry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1259525/posts

Why are the New York Times, CBS and John Kerry hyping a fraudulent story on the missing explosives? Why did CBS state the story would not hold until 48 hours before the election?

My opinion is they knew John Kerry’s presidential run was over when the following documents broke on October 26, 2004 if press and public where not all distracted elsewhere.

Documentary evidence was reveled on October 26, 2004 establishing that John Kerry worked with the Vietnamese communists while Vietnam War was still ongoing. The documents clearly state:

“The spontaneous antiwar movements in the US have received assistance and guidance from the friendly ((VC/NVN)) delegations at the Paris Peace Talks.”

The documents further state:

“Of the U.S. antiwar movements, the two most important ones are: The PCPJ ((the People's Committee for Peace and Justice)) and the NPAC ((National Peace Action Committee)). These two movements have gathered much strength and staged many demonstrations. The PCPJ is the most important. It maintains relations with us.”

The proof that John Kerry’s anti-war group, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, was working with People's Coalition for Peace and Justice is contained in an April 20, 1971 letter written by Kerry VVAW sidekick, Al Hubbard. The letter is addressed from the offices of the VVAW in Washington, D.C. and states:

“This is an appeal for help for the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. Over the past months the Peoples Coalition has supported the Vietnam Vets Against the War in many ways. The Coalition has made office space available at no charge, and permitted the use of all necessary office equipment such as mimeograph machines, stencil-making machines, folders and typewriters. They have loaned us cars, bullhorns, and public address equipment. Their staff has taken messages for us and joined fraternally in building our progress. Now we can return this support.”

John Kerry has admitted that he met with leaders of both communist delegations to the Paris Peace Talks in June 1970. This meeting actually included Madame Binh, foreign minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government (PRG) of South Vietnam, also known as the Vietcong. The recently discovered documents clearly state that:

"The Nixon-Thieu clique is very embarrassed because the seven-point peace proposal is supported by the SVN people's (( political struggle)) movement and the antiwar movements in the US. Therefore, all local areas, units, and branches must widely disseminate the seven-point peace proposal, step up the people's ((political struggle)) movements both in cities and rural areas, taking advantage of disturbances and dissensions in the enemy's forthcoming (RVN) Congressional and Presidential elections. They must coordinate more successfully with the antiwar movements in the US so as to isolate the Nixon-Thieu clique."

John Kerry completed his betrayal of the country on July 22, 1971 when he called on President Nixon to accept the seven-point peace proposal supported by the Vietcong. The FBI files even document that Kerry returned to Paris to meet with the North Vietnamese delegation in August of 1971.

See: John Kerry and the VVAW: Hanoi's American Puppets? Newly discovered documents link Vietnam Veterans Against the War to Vietnamese communists

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets



31 posted on 10/27/2004 8:41:20 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: MNJohnnie

Apparently the people at the NYT and the Kerry campaign are incapable of spelling really hard words .. like 'google' and 'yahoo'. Or perhaps JFnK should have just sat in on a few Intel Committee meetings...


32 posted on 10/27/2004 8:42:53 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Txsleuth

"...that it has Kerry screaming about it..."

Becoming more and more like his followers, and like Gore, and like Dean.

Right out of the communist manifesto and Goebel's methodology.

A lie told often enough becomes believed. As if the screaming ofsets the falsehood, like telling it two or three times in one shot.


33 posted on 10/27/2004 10:53:53 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: MNJohnnie
"WHO in the Kerry Campaign did the NY Times coordinate their coverage of this political dirty trick? The world wonders."

Weak denials will be plenty to deal with such questions. Those who could make the public care about such questions have zero interest in doing so. Otherwise what sort of co-conspirators would they be?

34 posted on 10/27/2004 11:01:33 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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To: MNJohnnie

datum.

good catch, newsmax!


35 posted on 10/27/2004 11:01:39 PM PDT by King Prout ("We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Mo1
I heard a sound clip on Rush's show of him giving a speech today and Kerry was sreeching like a hysterical girl about these missing weapons.

I heard that clip and he sounded like Al Gore

I heard it too. What Bush needs to do is run a commercial playing that clip, and then ask "Do you want this man's finger on the Nuclear Button?"

36 posted on 10/27/2004 11:05:57 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: Kristarrah
"If The Times is indeed in error, that is certain to become clear, and I will say so in print."

Of course...afterall, they have always shown the utmost interest in objectivity and truth, and always corrected stories that later were proven to be politically-driven lies...in print...big, front page headlines just like the original story they ran to deliberately mislead readers.

They should just start calling the paper the New York Enquirer.

37 posted on 10/27/2004 11:07:29 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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To: Cowboy Bob

He won't do that

But Rush, Hannity and others can have fun with it :0)


38 posted on 10/27/2004 11:10:30 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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