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[MN] 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS video may be linked to missing explosives in Iraq
KSTP-TV 5 ^ | 10-28-4 | KSTP-TV 5

Posted on 10/28/2004 6:41:11 AM PDT by Petronski

A 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared.

The missing explosives are now an issue in the presidential debate. Democratic candidate John Kerry is accusing President Bush of not securing the site they allegedly disappeared from. President Bush says no one knows if the ammunition was taken before or after the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003 when coalition troops moved in to the area.

Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS determined our crew embedded with them may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where that ammunition disappeared. Our crew was based just south of Al Qaqaa. On April 18, 2003 they drove two or three miles north into what is believed to be that area...

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5 EYEWITNESS NEWS e-mailed pictures of the material we found to experts in Washington Wednesday to see if it is the same kind of high explosives that went missing in Al Qaqaa. They could not make that determination.

The footage is now in the hands of security experts to see if it is indeed the explosives in question.

(Excerpt) Read more at kstp.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; hmx; kerrylies; rdx
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To: Petronski

No, I cannot hear Lurch keep droning on because when I see him on the tube or radio I switch stations. He makes me physically ill.


21 posted on 10/28/2004 7:02:18 AM PDT by Piquaboy (John F-ng Kerry was a traitor to his fellow soldiers and now his country.)
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To: RichardSuccer

Guys chill out. The MSM shows a couple of still shots and the sky is falling. Unless you have a sample of the material you don't what it is. I mean it could be peanut butter. The MSM wants to rattle us.


22 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:08 AM PDT by JonDavid
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To: RichardSuccer

Guys chill out. The MSM shows a couple of still shots and the sky is falling. Unless you have a sample of the material you don't what it is. I mean it could be peanut butter. The MSM wants to rattle us.


23 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:10 AM PDT by JonDavid
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To: Petronski
I found this in the pdf spec for Cast Boosters:

•Hazardous Shipping Description
•Boosters, 1.1D UN 0042


24 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:29 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: RichardSuccer

The crates actually say "Al QAAQA" - it's on their website.

All that proves is that Al Qaaqa was the original intended destination for the stuff.

25 posted on 10/28/2004 7:05:41 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Petronski; Buckhead
I do not know. I hope we have as many FR explosive experts check in here, so we can develop a theory on that.

Hey Buckhead...got any cousins?
26 posted on 10/28/2004 7:07:43 AM PDT by marktuoni (Beware MSM here come the Freepers in Sleepers!)
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Bottom line - regardless of what the explosives in the video are - no IAEA seals, not the explosives that went missing.


27 posted on 10/28/2004 7:07:55 AM PDT by Newshues
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To: JonDavid

I don't think those crates show RDX or HBX. They show Cast Boosters which are designed to detonate high explosives.


28 posted on 10/28/2004 7:08:03 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Petronski

Why is there no Arabic on these containers? And why are they all labelled in English, at least that I can see. I heard one soldier on some show say that what he saw there was mostly written in French and German.


30 posted on 10/28/2004 7:11:39 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Petronski

In its pure synthesised state it is a white crystalline solid. As an explosive it is usually used in mixtures with other explosives and plasticizers or desensitizers. It is stable in storage and is considered the most powerful and brisant of the military high explosives.

RDX forms the base for a number of common military explosives: Composition A (wax-coated, granular explosive consisting of RDX and plasticizing wax), composition A5 (mixed with 1.5% stearic acid), composition B (castable mixtures of RDX and TNT), composition C (a plastic demolition explosive consisting of RDX, other explosives, and plasticizers), composition D, HBX (castable mixtures of RDX, TNT, powdered aluminium, and D-2 wax with calcium chloride), H-6, Cyclotol and C-4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX

31 posted on 10/28/2004 7:11:46 AM PDT by antaresequity
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To: finnman69

Of course it’s not RDX or HBX. The Russians took that out of Iraq before the war started. Let the MSM go national with this. It proves nothing and be can debunked.


32 posted on 10/28/2004 7:13:20 AM PDT by JonDavid
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To: finnman69
Hmm, maybe I am wrong.


33 posted on 10/28/2004 7:14:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Petronski
oh, Now the reporters ask the Army to identify it? They didn't bother to notify the Army BEFORE? When everyone was concerned about WMD?
34 posted on 10/28/2004 7:14:44 AM PDT by cookcounty (WWW-Will John Kerry seek a 4th Purple Heart for fingers burnt in the Battle of Al-Qa Qaa?)
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To: finnman69

Is that definitive? Are you saying that label is only applied to boosters?


Hope so.


35 posted on 10/28/2004 7:16:21 AM PDT by Petronski (A Monday morning quarterback has never led any team to victory.)
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Somebody is playing games here. A couple of days ago we hear about explosives being found and now all of a sudden, a tv reporter has video of the explosives. Why is all of this info coming out now just days before the election?


36 posted on 10/28/2004 7:17:09 AM PDT by JJDPower
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To: finnman69

f. RDX (Clclotrimethylenetrinitramine, Cyclonite)



The name cyclonite was given to this explosive by Clarence J. Bain because of its cyclic structure and its cyclonic nature. The Germans call it Hexogen, the Italians T4.

Today, Cyclonite is probably the most important high brisance explosive. Its brisant power is high, owning to its high density and high detonation velocity. It is relatively insensitive as compared to PETN which has similar strength.

RDX is also used as a medicine, under the name of methenamine, used for the control of urinary tract infections, also used in the manufacturer of plastics, and as an accelerator for the vulcanization of rubber.

Uses: Manufacture of boosters, detonating cord, detonators, and placed in a plastic binder.

Properties

White crystalline solid or red depending on use. If used in detonating cord it will be red to pink.

High brisance

VOD 27,394 ft/sed


37 posted on 10/28/2004 7:17:30 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Petronski

Dunno. Need an expert here. Im not an expert.


38 posted on 10/28/2004 7:17:53 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Petronski
Wonder if it was a ford and if it is available to the general public. 4 wheel drive and crew-cab?
40 posted on 10/28/2004 7:20:10 AM PDT by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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