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It seems clear to me that Osama is threatening specific states of the union, particularly Florida. He hints that the attacks are already planned and that they will attack the US no matter what the outcome of the election is. However, the locations of the attacks are to be carried out in "states" who vote to re-elect Bush and to carry out the regime of "Kings".

We need to re-double our secuity efforts in Florida and Texas. I say raise the terror alert level NOW.

Thoughts?

1 posted on 10/30/2004 8:13:48 AM PDT by watchinginawe
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To: watchinginawe

Very interesting point. But it won't sway my vote. No way my state is going for Kerry. He'll lose here by 20 points.


2 posted on 10/30/2004 8:16:51 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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More likely, he, like the left, is simply trying to destablize the country so they can manipulate within the chaos. All the talk is probably taken as codes or whatever. He is going to target based on where our culture centers are. Just so happens those tend to be liberal regardless of the state.


3 posted on 10/30/2004 8:17:34 AM PDT by Rippin
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To: watchinginawe
States are nations.

Lots in Osama's message to hearten DUmmies.

4 posted on 10/30/2004 8:19:25 AM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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My wife just pointed out to me a chronological oddity in OBL's tape. When he refers to Michael's Moore"s image of Bush reading after the attacks, he talks about it as if the attacks were still going on. He says the President read about goats instead of trying to save 50,000 of his countrymen from attack.The attack had already happened. OBL has to know that. Is this the signal in the message we orry about whenever these thing show up. Nad is the number 50000 a part of that signal?


5 posted on 10/30/2004 8:20:30 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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Even if they don't raise the terror level....we need to be vigilant. Enlist everyone you can to form a 6th column!


6 posted on 10/30/2004 8:23:51 AM PDT by Huskr4Bush
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Osama finally comes out from his cave Outer Mongolia with his political endorsement. That boring speech had so many Michael Mooreon quotes, he must be getting the Old York Times delivered?? Yawn said that he had world leaders who were hoping that he would become President and now we know who he was talking about. Since he could have easily captured this murderer, he must have been in constant communication. After all, Yaawn Cut & Run Kerry is the most brilliant Armchair General and Monday Morning QB in the Country. Komrade Kerry knows everything about everything, just ask him a veritable Cliff Claven.

The first moment that Yaawn hears about Osama bin Hidin threatening the United States election and it’s people what is Yaawn’s response? Does he state we are unified in defeating this animal? No, he piles on the military, America and the President to score the cheapest of political points. This fits him like a T, he hates the military, America and the President with every vote he has cast or speech given. In unscripted moments, the true John Kerry comes out, the one we saw in 1971, he says that the military failed to catch Osama. Fact is, if Kerry, Clinton or Gore were presidents we would not have even been in Afghanistan. They all said that it was going to be another Vietnam and none of them had the spine to attack a sovereign country. So Osama would still be in his compounds outside of Kabul training terrorists for the next American attack.

We have the country’s most vile enemy attacking our President and our people and what is the first thing out of his mouth. “I would have captured or killed Osama!” What a piece of garbage to make an empty statement when this terrorist is threatening our women and children. First, track records for Rat CIC’s in war is very weak, but assuming he would have let the dogs loose and he ever got to the point our troops got to in Tora Bora, how you going to smoke him out? This is the most inaccessible land in the world. 20,000 foot mountains in the roadless areas between Pakistan and Afghanistan, tell us how YOU would catch him Yaawn??

Comrade Kerry is always the first to criticize our troops, but he never tells us exactly what he can do better. Our main mistake in Tora Bora was we became too sensitive to the terrorists and gave them a cease fire to surrender which is when they escaped. That is what Comrade Kerry would do in Iraq and is why Osama endorsed him. He is tired of raising goats in Outer Mongolia. He wants back in the game like when BJ clinton was treating him like a “nuisance” and is pining for a Kerry return to those days.

He misses the days when he could blow up or murder Americans at will and we would treat it like a police action. Threaten to hunt them down and kill them anywhere, any time yada, yada, yada and then wait for the next attack. He misses the days when the military option was not an option and our military was a meals-on-wheels brigade and no threat to Osama. Yeah, he is hoping and praying that Comrade Kerry will get elected and bring back the good ol days for terrorism when American blood flowed freely in the streets.

George W Bush changed all that! He told the military to sick-um and they did. Now terrorists are either dead or hiding for fear of their lives. Osama has not been able to attack this country once and is losing dozens of men a day. He knows that after GW is elected he is a dead man. He knows that the military is the finest and brightest military in the history of the world. He knows that GW will let the military adapt and destroy with an efficiency that he cannot match. He knows that his only chance of survival now is to get Yaawn elected. He knows that if President Bush is elected he will end up on the Ash Heap of History. Let’s pray America figures out what Osama has.

So in desperation he gives a rambling, long winded monotone speech that was laced heavily with attacks on the President and our military with wild claims from Michael Moore to fire-up his base. Pretty much a Yaawn Cut & Run stump speech who is now his number one fan so Blood will run once again in America’s streets.

Pray for W and Our Election


9 posted on 10/30/2004 8:26:17 AM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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I had predicted yesterday on FR that Monday would be the day to watch out for.

It is no doubt that the bin Laden tape was a message. A fool could surmise that. Bin Laden also mentioned the FL school where Bush was on 9/11. Think Beslan? Maybe... go guess.

They knew that a fresh threat-of-attack favors a Bush win on Tuesday. This was NOT just a PR opportunity.

The message was an encrypted command.

10 posted on 10/30/2004 8:29:08 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Issue in doubt.” -Maj. Devereaux, Wake Island, 1941)
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Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your hands. Each state that doenst mess with our security has automatically secured their security.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Clearly OBL is telling Americans to keep and bear arms.

14 posted on 10/30/2004 8:40:44 AM PDT by GnL
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Don't forget that Binnie's tape had to be translated, so much probably depends on the word in the orginal. The translator may have selected the word states to mean "nations," but it's also possible that the original word meant "states" in the US sense of the word, which is the reason the translator used this word.

I don't know if Arabic has two different words for these concepts. The Romance languages that I translate have only one word for both concepts, and it can therefore sometimes be ambiguous, depending on the context.


16 posted on 10/30/2004 8:48:44 AM PDT by livius
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>>Thoughts?

I thought it was a good point for a second, and then I thought about which state 9/11 happened to.

I think UBL made this video tape because it was the best he had... If he could have attacked, he would have. He knows that would have made a stronger point then a speech.

17 posted on 10/30/2004 8:49:11 AM PDT by freestyle
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be careful with translations; we are working across languages, cultures, and usages of various terms


20 posted on 10/30/2004 8:52:35 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo ( MSM is the nanny watchdog of everyone/everything; yet they explode w/rage when THEY are audited.)
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Yeah, in International law, each nation is a "state" in the terms that it's a nation state. The US is screwy compared with the rest of the world by referring to what most other countries would call "provinces" or something similar as states. So it's an error in the translation, as OBL surely means US states when talking about govoners and nation-states when talking about threats.


22 posted on 10/30/2004 9:02:27 AM PDT by Grn_Lantern
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Thoughts?

Nuke that b*stard and his band of demented followers. Period.

25 posted on 10/30/2004 9:11:22 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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> It seems clear to me that Osama is threatening specific states of the union, particularly Florida. <

No, Einstein, the term "state" means nation in this context.


31 posted on 10/30/2004 9:57:48 AM PDT by jaime1959
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For what it's worth, this Iraqi blogger says to watch "in the next few days before or during the US election or even just after the election...a big attack with possible mass killing. It is likely that chemical plus conventional high explosives may be used. The after-math of the attack may take days to clear."

Hammorabi.Blogspot.com

"The Americans have to know one point only which is; if GWB lose the election the terrorists will declare victory and their attacks will get worse and their cells will sneak every where by two major ways. First is by nuclear mushroom like spread in ME and Africa while the second spread will be octopus like spread with long arms inside Europe and US."

"The terrorists fears GWB and will take a deep breath and expand if he is losing!"

GWB MUST WIN.

36 posted on 10/30/2004 10:53:29 AM PDT by ncdrumr
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Neither Bush nor Kerry has the will to do what really needs to be done to win the war on terrorism. Killing Osama Bin Laden won't end the war, for there are millions of Bin Ladens waiting in the wings. The only way to win this war for good is to turn the Arab capitals into smoldering ruins.


43 posted on 10/30/2004 7:30:31 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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Regarding the 'States' question, there is a possibility you are all correct, but I think there is something you should know.
When middle easterners, Pakistanis, Indians, et al. talk about what we call 'America', they refer to it as 'The States'. I have worked with hundreds of Indians and it is just the word they use to refer to our country (i.e. 'The States'.) It is just like how we call 'Deutschland' Germany.

BITS

46 posted on 10/31/2004 7:24:29 AM PST by Believe_In_The_Singularity (praying for a peaceful on Tuesday)
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He was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and he didn't forget to transfer his experience from the rulers of our region to Florida to falsify elections to benefit from it in critical times.

LOL. Funny stuff. Talk about not understanding how a democracy works. "Rulers"? "...putting his sons as governor"?

Binny Laden is simply a Third Worlder trying to aspire to be a superpower leader. Save it Binny--you'll never aspire that high.

47 posted on 10/31/2004 6:45:31 PM PST by The Toad
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I think this theory may have some merit. Initially I did think he was referring to US states but eventually dismissed that idea. But since we know that UBL speaks in code I think he could be referring to states voting for Bush.

48 posted on 10/31/2004 6:54:43 PM PST by yellowhammer
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Hey OSAMA, YOU CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH ASS, I LIVE IN OHIO AND I AM VOTING FOR GEORGE BUSH.


49 posted on 10/31/2004 7:09:30 PM PST by upyours53
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