Posted on 10/30/2004 3:46:30 PM PDT by doug from upland
My son in law is in the Navy. After 5 years, he re-upped last year for 3 more. He has thought of making it a career and proudly serves his country.
But like many, many of his comrades, he wonders what he will do if John Kerry becomes the commander in chief.
He knows all about Kerry --- testifying to lies in the Senate, the Winter Soldier lies, the questionable medals, the visits to Paris, the vote whether to assassinate senators, etc. He knows that Kerry's words were used to torture men in custody.
Soldiers and sailors everywhere are worried. Those who have made it a career know that the commander in chief will change and it might not be someone with whom they agree. But he is the commander in chief, and they do their job to serve the country. That is what comes first.
But our warriors have never faced anything like this. Clinton loathed the military and hurt the military, but they survived. With Kerry, they know that they are facing the prospect of being commanded by someone who can truly be called a traitor.
Many of our finest will wonder what to do. Would commander in chief Kerry force them to wear the blue helmets of the U.N.? Would he turn them over to a world court for justice? Would he veto funding bills like the $87 billion?
I had written previously that under Kerry, we might need a draft because of the number of soldiers who would not serve under him.
Right now, our military is the best in the world. Among the reasons are that the men and women respect their commander in chief. And their commander in chief respects them. We will have a nightmare on our hands if the commander changes right now.
If Kerry is elected, you can kiss military retention goodbye.
Probably very likely! I know if I were still on active duty I would sure consider getting out IF sKerry was elected!
I go to basic on the 23rd of November...I've pondered this too. I plan on making a career out of the Air Force so I will have to wait and see what the situation is when it is time to re-up.
i got out of the navy after 5 years when clinton was elected and everything i was scared of happened on his watch
Not a tough decision to make at all.
Please thank your son for his service....If Kerry is elected we will need a draft. Almost no military man/women will serve under a CIC such as him. He abandoned his Band of Brothers in Vietnam and spoke ill of them.
Truly poetic justice if these loser college students would all vote for Kerry and have to be drafted....
I totally feel his pain. I recently retired after 22 years of service and Kerry is doing the same thing now that he did in 1971. He is falsely accusing the military of not being competent in Tora Bora and in Al Quaqaa. Again he does this for political self gratification and even though he says he is not criticizing the troops in fact he is. The President does not micro manage daily operations in Iraq. We have the best trained and equipt military in all the world and John Kerry refuses to acknowledge it. Every time he or his pundits say the President did not have enough troops on the ground in Iraq at the outset I want to scream because I was there part of thousands of troops that were in standby in Kuwait, Dahran, Bahrain etc. In stand by in case Sadaam's army proved to be tougher then it was. We were only allowed to return home after the Fall of Baghdad and in coordination with the recommendations of the Tommy Franks and the Generals in the field. Kerry makes me sick. He has no idea how to fight a war in the 21st century. He remembers vietnam and thinks you need thousands of troops to take imaginery hills. He would be the worst thing for the military ever and in my opinion he would turn our military over the UN for them to use at their disposal. I pray for our troops everyday and I pray that John Kerry will not be given the opportunity to ruin the best fighting force in the world today. Thank You and thanks to your son for continuing to keep us safe.
Best of luck to you. Godspeed.
In that light, there is more than we thought hanging on whether or not Bush wins re-election. The very security of our nation hangs in the balance.
I can understand why your son is worried, My son is in Iraq now he is a Marine and he and his other fellow Marines are also worried if Kerry gets elected. I keep telling myself and son not to worry about it, but as a parent I will always worry as long as he is in Iraq, as long as George W. Bush remains our Commander and Chief we all will have less to worry about.
We are forever grateful for your 22 years, Tom.
First, thank your son for his service to our country, sir.
You bring up a point that I have worried about too - morale of the troops under an anti-war president.
A Kerry election would be a blow to our allies - who Kerry called "The Coalition of The Bribed." It's a tremendous slur against nations who have private citizens beheaded because of their government's involvement in the war.
Finally, I fear that with a Kerry election, Tony Blair, along with John Howard would be isolated in the war on terror.
The military survived every a**hole President - LBJ, the Peanut, and Clinton. Fortunately, we have an institution that transcends occasional electoral blunders.
I tend to agree, but we have never had a John Kerry in office. We have never had a genuine traitor who is worshipped as a war hero by the other side.
Mil bloggers Sgt Hook and Citizen Frank say soldiers will serve the commander in chief no matter who it is. In fact, they say it DOESN'T matter. But it does.
Kerry may have technically been enlisted but he was never a trooper. He was right to throw away his medals because he did not deserve them.
We may have legal grounds to impeach him should he be elected. "Stolen Honor" will air tomorrow night on PAX.
The thought of them twisting in the wind for another year or so, dying for a losing cause until Kerry decides enough time has passed for him to declare victory and then bring them home, is abominating.
My son served under Bush 40 and wanted to make a career serving in the Navy...Clinton was elected and decide (as well as other good men) to find another career opportunities outside the service as opposed to serving a President with not guts...
If the traitor somehow managed to pull this off, I would strongly support a military coupe in order to enforce the Constitution, as pretains to electing traitors.
Kerry's election means an end to the volunteer army and a return to the draft.
It's the democrat's motus operandi.
No soldier wants to serve under a known communist, Kerry is one, so that settles it. Soldiers of patriotic bent will drop out. No KOSOVO's for God fearing American soldiers. Killing greek orthodox christians tomake room for the alquaieda muzzies, and provide them a base of operations in Europe, was morally repugnant to many americans, and soldiers.
clintong did it.
Kerry would have us bombing Taiwan, to pacify the rebels (as beijing calls it).
And soldiers of freedom loving birth, won't have it. Hence, to enforce socialism worldwide, will require us to put american men into a draft that is run for the benefit of the United Nations. That is the worldview of John Kerry & Co.
I pray fervently for his defeat.
As I do for President Bush's firm, and incontravertable victory.
God help us this next three days.
--robert
Yes, yes and yes.
The outrage is that Kerry can only win by fraud. In that case, civil war will be the only remedy available to people, the only way to shed the leftist tyrants who would feed on them. Jefferson warned us this would happen. If not in 2004, then someday. We'd better be ready for it when it comes.
That said, I really do not believe Kerry can win this. Maybe Hillary in 2008. But not Kerry in 2004.
That's what I though, I BET MANY people are waiting until Nov 2 to see who is in, and basing their military future on that.
"With Kerry, they know that they are facing the prospect of being commanded by someone who can truly be called a traitor."
Bears repeating.
Hasn't Kerry pretty much said as much? He's for rule by the UN. He wants world government with the USA towing the line --- whatever the UN says will go.
The U.S. military enlistment/commissioning oath is centered primarily on the phrase "Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States".
Nor have we ever elected a CIC that headed an organization that was being completely manipulated by our Communist enemies in North Vietnam and, most likely, Moscow. This is dreadful to contemplate. I continue to believe that if the electorate really knew the truth about this charlatan, he wouldn't get more than 25% of the vote, mainly from the ABB crowd.
It's never too late to back out.... no matter what they tell you.
I'm afraid that Kerry will sign us onto the ICC. I can imagine him allowing members of our military to be tried for war crimes. That is one of the many reasons why I'm voting for GWB.
I've asked my husband several times what he will do if Kerry wins. He says that he will stay in the military because he serves this country, not just one man. I admire his patriotism, but I'm still concerned.
It will be obvious as enlistment terms end and there are no more re-ups.
If Kerry wins, it won't be the same country we have known. I don't know what individuals in the service of the country will do, but I won't fault them if they leave.
he will have to assess what "this country" really is, if it happens.
That you fail to see the gravity of such a disaster is very discouraging.
Did you not notice that we are at war with people who attacked us because for eight years we showed weakness when attacked?
I don't believe sHillary can win in '08. If she really wants to be president as desperately we speculate she does, and she thought she could win against GWB, it certainly seems plausible she would have run this time...
Regards,
My son served four years in ROTC and four years stationed in Germany. All during the Clinton years. If you think it doesn't matter who is president I suggest you don't know what you are talking about.
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His intention is the brain child of Soros...it is from SOROS that John F Kerry will take his marching orders...
THE MILITARY'S FIRST DUTY IS TO PROTECT UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND PROTECT AMERICA FROM ALL ENEMIES BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC... JOHN F KERRY IS THE ENEMY DOMESTIC
Duty is not to the Commander in Chief but to the constitution and to America If the POTUS is the enemy domestic...then the military's duty is clear
If the C n C is insane or criminal to follow blindly is wrong...and not professional
A professional's loyalty must first be to the nation and not any one man...
Anyone who follows Kerry will have an equal share in his betrayal
IMO
I should hope so! Guess who his father in law be??
Unless it was Zell Miller.
I agree. The oath is to the Constitution and soldiers serve all the time under a commander in chief with whom them disagree. This is different. A TRAITOR, an actual TRAITOR may become commander in chief. He faked military records and turned on his comrades. He has kept hidden military records that would show an other than honorable discharge. It boggles the mind to think that America could be so fooled and be so foolish.
The sad thing about the military, if they start dropping out because of Kerry, is that the safety of our country will be compromised by a weak military. Of course that is what Kerry wants.
God bless both you and him. It would be even more difficult times.
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