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Queen tells Government to pressure US on climate policy
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | November 1, 2004

Posted on 11/01/2004 1:35:13 AM PST by The Loan Arranger

London: The Queen has made a rare intervention in world politics by warning the British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, of her grave concerns over the policy of the United States towards global warming, a newspaper said.

The Observer reported yesterday that the Queen is understood to have asked Mr Blair's office to lobby the US after observing the alarming impact of Britain's changing weather on her estates at Balmoral and Sandringham.

"There has been dialogue between Downing Street and Buckingham Palace on all issues relating to climate change including the US position and the latest science," said one of Britain's leading experts on climate change, who spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity. "She is very keen to get involved," he said.

"From her own observations on the climate she has become worried like the rest of us," he was quoted as saying. "She has made it clear she wants to raise the importance of the issue."

The United States, flying in the face of world opinion, said earlier this month it would not follow Russia's lead and ratify the Kyoto protocol on global warming.

(Excerpt) Read more at smh.com.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: artbell; bush; climatechange; globalwarming; interference; kyoto; qe2; royals; tonyblair; uk
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Didn't we fight two wars (Revolutionary War and the War of 1812) to keep these people from meddling in our affairs? She's concerned about her estates at Balmoral and Sandringham, is she? Well, I'm concerned about the tens of millions of jobs we'll lose and the depression we will have in this country if Kyoto is implimented. Maybe Kerry or Gore should run for Prime Minister of England, sounds like they'd get along just fine over there!
1 posted on 11/01/2004 1:35:14 AM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger
Didn't we fight two wars (Revolutionary War and the War of 1812) to keep these people from meddling in our affairs?

I just bloody love this. The Black Watch goes into battle yesterday, after Britain standing with America all the way in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. One article makes people on here unglued and forget the sacrifices the British military have made. I am just grateful cooler heads govern relations at both Downing Street and the White House.

Ivan

2 posted on 11/01/2004 1:43:53 AM PST by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan

You're right. That being said, Kyoto would be a disaster.


3 posted on 11/01/2004 1:47:15 AM PST by SoDak
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To: MadIvan
Point Taken.

I wonder what would happen if American officials started commenting on internal British policies.

Say, the EU is a disaster. Regain your political sovereignty and join the North Atlantic Free Trade Area with us and the Canucks in the Anglo-spheric economic alliance. Maybe add Australia. I wonder what the British press would think about that.
4 posted on 11/01/2004 1:52:50 AM PST by Reaganez
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To: MadIvan

This whole "Guardian--Operation Clark County" fiasco and watching parliament on C-Span have me disgusted. If Americans tried to influence your vote vis a vis an election or other internal issue, how would you feel? And please don't tell me that Kyoto is not an internal issue. BTW, I think "cooler heads" has been the problem in the past, (i.e., Clinton not capturing OBL when he had a chance prior to 9/11--"what would the world community think", etc, etc..)


5 posted on 11/01/2004 1:55:10 AM PST by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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I wonder what would happen if American officials started commenting on internal British policies.

Yours have done for years. Northern Ireland should ring bells. Yet, the alliance still stands.

As for your proposal, William Hague (former leader of the Conservative Party) once went to Washington to meet with the Republicans to discuss precisely that.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 11/01/2004 1:55:40 AM PST by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Idiot b!tch; stay out of our internal affairs. Tend to your own disastrous policies, EU-Queenie-weenie. You've got more than a handful going on.


7 posted on 11/01/2004 1:57:46 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: The Loan Arranger
This whole "Guardian--Operation Clark County" fiasco and watching parliament on C-Span have me disgusted. If Americans tried to influence your vote vis a vis an election or other internal issue, how would you feel? And please don't tell me that Kyoto is not an internal issue. BTW, I think "cooler heads" has been the problem in the past, (i.e., Clinton not capturing OBL when he had a chance prior to 9/11--"what would the world community think", etc, etc..)

I've given up trying to argue with people like you. If people like yourself ever become a majority in America, then I'd be hard pressed to find a good reason to argue the value of the alliance - 70 British dead in Iraq for example, and yet the slightest thing a stupid newspaper does, the slightest thing some idiots in Parliament say, totally invalidates that sacrifice. It's difficult to argue for an alliance if the people you're acting in aid of are constantly telling you "up yours".

Ivan

9 posted on 11/01/2004 1:59:24 AM PST by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan
Take a look at my profile; I am a military veteran with over five years defending my country, and my late father was a Marine in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. I said nothing demeaning to our allies in the War on Terror, I am suggesting that your Queen go back to riding her horses and tending to her estates and quit pressuring the PM to lobby Mr. Bush on Kyoto. We don't want our economy shackled by a worthless treaty that no other signatory will actually obey. "Global warming" has not been satisfactorily proved, to my mind, and until it is, drastic measures aren't necessary.
10 posted on 11/01/2004 2:10:24 AM PST by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Her Majesty is 100% wrong on this point.


11 posted on 11/01/2004 2:13:20 AM PST by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: MadIvan
"Yours have done for years. Northern Ireland should ring bells. Yet, the alliance still stands.

As for your proposal, William Hague (former leader of the Conservative Party) once went to Washington to meet with the Republicans to discuss precisely that."

Northern Ireland is not part of internal "British" policies now is it? United Kingdom policies? That is precisely the dispute isn't it.

Plus, to my knowledge we have not lobbied for changes in policies.Maybe yo can correct me. We have offered to act as brokers between Protestant and Catholic factions.If they have lobbied for changes then you have every right to tell them to F off.Just like we should do on this Kyoto business.

William Hague discussing my proposal with Republican leaders is exactly how these things should be handled.
12 posted on 11/01/2004 2:15:11 AM PST by Reaganez
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To: The Loan Arranger

I think the Queen should return her billions of dollars of "BOGUSLY ENTITLED" wealth back to the people of Great Britain.


13 posted on 11/01/2004 2:19:44 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: The Loan Arranger

If memory serves well, Kyoto was rejected by 99-0 in non-binding vote in Senate.


14 posted on 11/01/2004 2:32:25 AM PST by paudio (CLINTON BOMBED BELGRADE WITHOUT EVEN BOTHER GOING TO THE UN...)
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To: MadIvan

..and forget the sacrifices the British military have made.
*****
Not trying to be glib. As a point of information, how many killed and wounded British servicemen in Iraq.

I'm sincerely curious.


15 posted on 11/01/2004 2:35:51 AM PST by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: MadIvan

The Queen has apparently been poorly schooled in the history of the British Isles. Before the little ice age, one could produce wine in southern England.


16 posted on 11/01/2004 2:37:51 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

I do know that Britain has committed close to a third of their active ground forces to Iraq.


17 posted on 11/01/2004 2:38:41 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

When are the Brits going to wake up and get rid of these phonies?


18 posted on 11/01/2004 2:47:02 AM PST by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: MadIvan
I thank you and your country for the sacrifices made in helping us fight this war.

The "latest science" as far as major publications go is the latest propaganda not science.
19 posted on 11/01/2004 2:50:22 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: Finalapproach29er

How many British citizens died in 9-11.

We were the ones attacked.


20 posted on 11/01/2004 2:51:24 AM PST by DB (©)
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