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Nice ad hominem attack.

If you want to debate where the country went wrong let's go back to the institution of the 'career' poitician.
A vote for President Bush is a good vote. A vote for Kerry is a bad vote. A vote for a third party is not a bad vote, as long as you are voting your conscience.

The two party system has screwed this country since the early 1900s.
If you want to keep getting screwed keep spouting BS about a third party vote being for the bad guys.

A vote for a third party is WORSE than not voting. At least when people don't vote, they feel guilt. I get the feeling that those that vote third party feel real, real good about themselves. Unfortunately, their vote, other than enhancing their own ego, leads to NOTHING HAPPENING in the political process. Your vote for the Constipation Party or the Losertarian Party results in NOT ONE SINGLE LESS PENNY SPENT BY THE GOVERNMENT.

On the other hand, let's talk about the ideas proposed by those parties. Small l libertarian ideas are taken seriously by one party and only one party. One party is the one that wants to move towards private social security accounts, health savings accounts and vouchers. One party is realistic enough to know that these programs will never go away so the goal is find a way to inject some kind of capitalism into them. Only one party.

The other party simply believes in throwing money at the problem. An endless and never ending supply of money. Money that is gleamed from taxing people more and more and more. One party is opposed to increased taxation. In only ONE party is there a debate over whether we should reform the tax system towards a flat tax or a consumption tax! One party. Only one. You want to participate in a party that gets things done, even if they are far from pure, than you vote Republican, you give money to primary candidates you support, you work for them and vote for them when need be.

One of the most exasperatingly things I see here is that the view point of Freepers has a ton of influence on the Republican Party. Without Freepers, people like Pat Toomey and Herman Cain would not have even gotten close. Without Freepers, John McCain would have been the nominee for President in 2000. Without freepers, we would not have seen Bill Simon and Brett Schundler win primaries in California and New Jersey. We have an influence in the electoral process, more than most. We may not always win but the battle MUST be fought within the system. Going to a third party is going to do nothing to change the existing party. Nothing.

Join with me in trying to keep (or, if you prefer, move) the Republican Party in the realm of strict constructionism by continuing to argue your viewpoint within that structure. Going outside does nothing to advance your cause.