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VOTER FRAUD IN PHILADLEPHIA!!! (NationalReview-Battlegrounders)
National Review - Battlegrounders ^ | 11-02-04 | Josh in PA

Posted on 11/02/2004 4:08:40 AM PST by Josh in PA

PENNSYLVANIA: REGISTRATION FRAUD: PHILLY FIASCO IN KERRY'S KEY COUNTY OVER 10,000 BAD REGISTRATIONS [Chris Lilik 11/02 05:42 AM]


TOPICS: Breaking News; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: election; fraud; napalminthemorning; philadelphia; votefraud; voterfraud
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1 posted on 11/02/2004 4:08:40 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

But what are we going to do about it? Didn't they have more new voters registered than people who even lived there?


2 posted on 11/02/2004 4:09:52 AM PST by secret garden (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Josh in PA

Dem voter fraud is like saying is water wet.


3 posted on 11/02/2004 4:11:39 AM PST by demlosers
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To: Josh in PA

bttt


4 posted on 11/02/2004 4:11:42 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Josh in PA
NEW KENSINGTON, Pa. (AP) - Maybe the nation isn't as divided as all the pundits claim.

After all, Upper Burrell Township neighbors Kerry Bush and John George have made it through the presidential campaign on speaking terms.

"I don't think people have put two-and-two together," George said, noting that neighbors haven't targeted either man with election year pranks.

George said it was his fourth-grade son, Cole, who noticed that the neighbors' names combine to form those of President George W. Bush and his Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry.

Bush manages a company that just got the cleaning contract at a nearby hospital, and said his name helped break the ice with his new co-workers.

And he has a ready reply to their most frequent jokes.

"I don't feel at all like a flip-flopper," Bush said. "I get called Mr. Bipartisan."

5 posted on 11/02/2004 4:11:42 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Josh in PA

Voter fraud is in the Demoncats playbook.....


6 posted on 11/02/2004 4:13:25 AM PST by Stateline
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To: Josh in PA

Another bad side effect of having crackheads for canvassers. Once they get theri fixes they tend to get a bit disinterested...:)


7 posted on 11/02/2004 4:14:20 AM PST by CT CONSERVATIVE (NOT FAIR-That's Dan's Story to Break!!!)
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To: Josh in PA
"In Philadelphia County alone, the Republican State Committee sent 131,206 congratulation letters to new registered Philadelphia County voters from March 1 to the end of August. 30,000 new primary voters were factored in to be on the safe side. 'The 527 groups started ' adds Pfeifle, explaining why primary voter registrations were included in the mix

"What the RNC found was shocking. 'In our early analysis of those, we had a little more than 10,000 returned letters,' said Pfeifle, who notes that the certified letters were sent to voters of every party

" '310 have been returned as addresses of vacant buildings or abandoned lots, 5 were returned as the individuals are incarcerated, 15 came back as the people were deceased, 3,300 came back as attempted but not known,' states Pfeifle. '130 people have moved, and 35 were marked with forwarding order.' 1,172 came back as not deliverable as addressed and another 35 came back with forwarding orders."

They're the party yowling non-stop about "stolen elections," you see.

8 posted on 11/02/2004 4:15:46 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Josh in PA

Excuse me....but how does a phoney registration ie: mary poppins etc, help John skerry? Do the people that phonied up the regs plan on going to the polls? Only a Dumb DUM would do such an idiotic thing.


9 posted on 11/02/2004 4:17:36 AM PST by marty60
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To: secret garden

I voted. Now I work for W at the polls.
Hey people-LET's ROLL!!!!!!


10 posted on 11/02/2004 4:17:53 AM PST by Jim-FREEportPA
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To: Josh in PA

Voter fraud in Philly? Get outta town!


11 posted on 11/02/2004 4:19:05 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: marty60

Oh, those voters get counted.. trust me on that.. Especially in Philadelphia.. They get 105% turnout there every year.


12 posted on 11/02/2004 4:19:20 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

Lawyers are very good at creating lawsuits and problems where none exists. Just look at their TV ads.


13 posted on 11/02/2004 4:20:05 AM PST by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: secret garden

Ask lawyers...


14 posted on 11/02/2004 4:20:31 AM PST by Ulysse (FRENCH FOR BUSH)
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To: Josh in PA
Is anyone being challenged at the polls? Are the Republicans watching? I sure hope so.
15 posted on 11/02/2004 4:20:56 AM PST by LisaS
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To: Josh in PA

Complain loud and clear.

CALL THE PA USAG: (215) 861-8200.


16 posted on 11/02/2004 4:22:36 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: secret garden

Complain loud and clear about PA voter fraud.

CALL THE PA USAG: (215) 861-8200.


17 posted on 11/02/2004 4:24:13 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Josh in PA

They count registrations as VOTES. HUMMMM, slightly illegal.


18 posted on 11/02/2004 4:24:53 AM PST by marty60
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To: Josh in PA; secret garden
How about jail (at a minimum)?

Peggy Noonan had it right when she said Democrat voter fraud is treason.
No less than America is at stake here, folks.

And we must not allow false charges of racism and voter suppression deter us.
We must go after this threat aggressively.

Is the country losing its collective mind?
I mean, to require voters to prove they're qualified to vote is not voter suppression.
It's voter protection.
It's the protection of the franchise.
It's the protection of the Republic.

I say let's flip the slobs doing the Democrats' dirty work.
We've got to go up the food chain and nail the
animals who are orchestrating--and FUNDING--this fraud.

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19 posted on 11/02/2004 4:27:03 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All
Vote fraud has been rampant in Philly not just for decades but well back into the nineteenth century. Not only can the dead vote, but they're even elected in Philly and that's happened more than once.

This is the first election I've seen such attention given to fraud! There MAY be hope!

20 posted on 11/02/2004 4:27:50 AM PST by Sooth2222
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To: marty60
If the state does not require photo identification, all you need is the information of the registrant and you're in. Then you move to the next precinct and vote as the next person on your list until you've exhausted your phoney identities.

It happened in 2000, folks voting multiple times across precincts even in multiple counties. We covered it. It's happening again. Their claim Republicans attempt to intimidate voters is a smoke-screen, a disinformation campaign, a red herring so Democrats can steal the election.

21 posted on 11/02/2004 4:31:28 AM PST by newzjunkey (Pray 4 America -- VIVA BUSH!)
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To: Josh in PA

Grace522 (a Freeper I know) is spending the day driving lawyers from polling place to polling place in Philly. The RNC is very aware of the potential for fraud, and has the quick reaction force in place to counter it.


22 posted on 11/02/2004 4:33:08 AM PST by Rokke
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To: Sooth2222
However, there used to be a Republican "machine" to counter the Democrat one. Now only the Democrat machine is alive.

I remember my grandmother would take the Democrat's nickle or quarter (I don't recall which) for the poll tax and then go vote Republican.

23 posted on 11/02/2004 4:34:30 AM PST by newzjunkey (Pray 4 America -- VIVA BUSH!)
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To: marty60

One person registers in adjacent precincts. On Election Day that one person cast 10 votes in ten different precincts. It happens in NYC all the time. I know. I was an accomplice to it way back in 1968 when I was a DIM volunteer. Too young to know better.

Back in those days, and even now, twenty or thirty votes could decide a State Assembly or City Council race. 2000 proved that it has ramifications that could be far more grave. Watch them. They will stop at nothing.


24 posted on 11/02/2004 4:34:36 AM PST by joeystoy
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To: marty60

Mary Poppins doesn't. But what happens when John Smith, 123 Elm Street shows up in every single precinct in America and votes a straight D ticket? Joined by his loyal rat wife Mary Smith in every precinct. And joined by fellow ideologues who get 13 absentee ballots at their real address, and another 13 at their winter house in Florida?

D vote fraud is real. And big.


25 posted on 11/02/2004 4:34:40 AM PST by blanknoone (I wouldn't vote for Benedict Arnold. I wouldn't vote for Karl Marx. I won't vote for John Kerry.)
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To: marty60

They ARE dumb...but also remember, they are in precincts that are ALL Dems. So while no one is looking, the sign, vote and "stuff" the ballot for registered people who don't exist. If nobody looks, (and who's going to in Philly) Mary Poppins et al can vote


26 posted on 11/02/2004 4:34:40 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Josh in PA

Well this is not comforting, but expected :{


27 posted on 11/02/2004 4:34:45 AM PST by babydubya1981 (Who would the aborted vote for?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It's sorta like the old adage: "He who smelt it dealt it."


28 posted on 11/02/2004 4:40:21 AM PST by RightFighter
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To: Stateline
If they're not cheating, they're not voting.

In most cheating precincts the votes are loaded into the machines before they reach the polling place. A person doesn't even need to leave their home to vote......or even be alive for that matter.

29 posted on 11/02/2004 4:42:44 AM PST by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: Rokke
The RNC is very aware of the potential for fraud, and has the quick reaction force in place to counter it.

What caliber...? :)

30 posted on 11/02/2004 4:42:54 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: t2buckeye
I saw a snippet this morning on "Fox & Friends" of Palm Beach County officials (3 Dems) going over absentee ballot signatures. The team was headed by the infamous Theresa LePore of Fiasco 2000 fame, who no doubt has the (R) and (D) registration rolls on her lap as she evaluates the absentee ballots. Thousands of these ballots had no signature, thousands had signatures so messy and scribbly that they couldn't be read...and it was up to these 3 DemonRats ALONE to determine whether or not each contested ballot would be counted. Let me repeat that: it was up to these 3 DemonRats ALONE to determine whether or not each contested ballot would be counted.

Pray, PRAY, PRAY, folks, like you've never prayed before. Pray against fraud and deceit and lies and manipulation. (And just where are all those U.N. poll watchers? In the back room punching straight-ticket ballots for Kerry?)

31 posted on 11/02/2004 4:46:06 AM PST by shezza (We will not tire, we will not falter, we will not fail.)
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To: Josh in PA

I just got back from the polling place. The rule here in PA is, apparently, that if you are a new registrant, you must show ID at the polling place. I witnessed a young woman showing her driver's license to the poll worker. I didn't show my ID because I've been there many times before, and they know me.

It seems that if you have to show ID, it would be somewhat more difficult to vote multiple times, no?

As for the polling place, I showed up 10 minutes before the polls opened, and there were already 20-30 people in line. By the time I left, I would say the line was 75 deep. I live in a township which votes 60-40 Republican.


32 posted on 11/02/2004 4:52:44 AM PST by Big E
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To: marty60
how does a phoney registration ie: mary poppins etc, help John skerry? Do the people that phonied up the regs plan on going to the polls?

Exactly.

I posed this same question way back on another thread and never saw a reply so my assumption was that nobody really knows.

How does the phony registration actually turn into a cast vote?

33 posted on 11/02/2004 4:58:09 AM PST by Tula Git
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To: secret garden; Josh in PA
Gee, the article conveniently doesn't mention party affiliation of the bogus registrations. Another shocker here in Rendell country.

But what are we going to do about it? Didn't they have more new voters registered than people who even lived there?

Rendell insists there are no irregularities. I have yet to find out what action will be taken, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that he would fight to make sure those votes were counted. They're having that problem, too, in eastern Ohio, with bogus registrations.

34 posted on 11/02/2004 4:58:51 AM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune.)
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To: Sooth2222

Gee you would thing a guy born in 1852 wouldn't be allowed to vote.


35 posted on 11/02/2004 5:00:13 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Josh in PA

The smell of victory is in the air!


36 posted on 11/02/2004 5:02:03 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.)
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To: All

I've just coming from voting for Dubya here in Washington, D.C. I saw my father's name still on the books when I went to sign by my name. Problem: my father's been dead since September 1995. My mother, who was with me, told the people that she has written to the Election Board to inform them, but everytime we go to vote, his name is still there. What in the world would stop someone from walking in and voting for my father? You are not asked for identification, so the potential for fraud is huge.


37 posted on 11/02/2004 5:10:08 AM PST by itsinthebag
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To: itsinthebag

...then you'd better go vote for him before someone else does..


38 posted on 11/02/2004 5:28:20 AM PST by Wil H
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To: Josh in PA

In Philadelphia if you want to vote you need to bring your death certificate...


39 posted on 11/02/2004 5:29:54 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Josh in PA

Actually, there are 112,000 stale registrations that are known in Philadelphia, that will be purged from the rolls after this election.

Relax, we know who they are. If we didn't, we wouldn't be sending up red flags about these 10,000 new registrations that aren't checking out.


40 posted on 11/02/2004 5:41:47 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

See why you don't need to worry? We know who these people are in my fair city, and we will challenege them if they "show up".


41 posted on 11/02/2004 5:43:11 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: newzjunkey

Pennsylvania requires identification for new voters.


42 posted on 11/02/2004 5:44:12 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: newzjunkey
However, there used to be a Republican "machine" to counter the Democrat one. Now only the Democrat machine is alive.

The Republican Machine is alive and well in Philadelphia. The Republican Speaker of the House is from Philly, and he is top dog here, even over Rendell.

43 posted on 11/02/2004 5:46:05 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Josh in PA

DRUDGE: VOTES FOUND ON MACHINES IN PHILLY, BEFORE POLLS OPEN


INCIDENT: 488 votes were on the machine at start of day
WARD/DIVISION: 37B/8
ADDRESS: 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa.
INCIDENT: 488 votes were on the machine at start of day
STATUS/TIME: (8:55 a.m. ET)


44 posted on 11/02/2004 6:08:54 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector

I reported it to the DOJ.


45 posted on 11/02/2004 6:15:48 AM PST by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: Josh in PA

Drudge!!!
VOTES FOUND ON MACHINES IN PHILLY, BEFORE POLLS OPEN;!!!!



Before voting even began in downtown Philladelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 700 votes already planted on machines... The incident occurred at WARD/DIVISION: 37B/8 at 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa... Developing...




46 posted on 11/02/2004 6:23:52 AM PST by gdc61
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To: Josh in PA

I believe part of the bad registrations is the fact that those people paid to register voters are paid by the number of persons registered. Thus it encourages the practice of adding names to get a better paycheck.

This "piece payment" system should be prohibited.


47 posted on 11/02/2004 6:25:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: FreedomProtector

D*MN!! didn't hit refresh before I posted


48 posted on 11/02/2004 6:25:41 AM PST by gdc61
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To: Sooth2222

As PVT. Pyle once said: Surprise Surprise Surprise! I wouldn't expect anything else from a State that went from Gov. Ridge to all of the sudden electing that POS Ed Rendell!


49 posted on 11/02/2004 6:26:12 AM PST by dsk1127
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To: Tula Git
Other people vote in place of the newly registered. Fake people actually work best because the real one will not show up at the poll and raise a stink that somebody voted in his name. It's hard for multiple Rats to vote multiple times if there is not enough people registered.

The parties also get notified as to those who didn't vote as of 5pm. Another opportunity for fraud.
50 posted on 11/02/2004 6:35:13 AM PST by Revolutionary
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