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VOTES FOUND ON MACHINES IN PHILLY, BEFORE POLLS OPEN(Gun made visible to scare Poll Watchers)
Drudge Report ^ | 11/2/04

Posted on 11/02/2004 6:08:00 AM PST by kcvl

Edited on 11/02/2004 10:00:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE NOV 02, 2004 09:06:35 ET XXXXX

UPDATE: VOTES 'FOUND ON MACHINES' IN PHILLY BEFORE POLLS OPEN

Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- Republican poll watchers believed they found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered in heavy-minority locations throughout the city.

Republican poll watchers claim:

One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8.

Pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500...

A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day.

ANOTHER INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa..

ANOTHER: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa...

MORE...

The Kerry Campaign says reports of votes already on machines are 'false.'

"Serious news will not appear first on the DRUDGE gossip website," senior Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart told reporters.

Officially, election officials explain the discrepancy is being caused by a number showing how many times various machines have been used.

But officials could not explain why used machines in other locations were reportedly 'clean.'

Elsewhere, a gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and quickly surrounded the location...

Developing...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004electionfraud; 2ndamendment; alreadyvoted; bang; civilwar2; civilwarii; corruption; electionviolence; fraud; howtostealanelection; intimidation; napalminthemorning; pennsylvania; pennsylvaniafraud; philadelphia; philadelphiafraud; phillyfraud; phillyvotefraud; pollwatchers; pollwatching; secondamendment; votefraud; voterfraud; voterintimidation
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To: anniegetyourgun

What a cute picture!! He looks as confused as we all are!


461 posted on 11/02/2004 10:49:14 AM PST by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: dirtboy
Dead can vote...

and yes, don'tcha know they have to be back in their caskets before sunrise. That explains it.

462 posted on 11/02/2004 10:50:11 AM PST by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: Dallas59
Has anybody....SEEN EDWARDS???

I'm sure he's still in his dressing room powdering his nose.

463 posted on 11/02/2004 10:51:16 AM PST by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: noexcuses
Votes from when? If they are left over from 2000 this can only be good for us

But if someone tampered with them between last election and this one, what's to say they won't do the same thing again just after the polls close?

464 posted on 11/02/2004 10:52:19 AM PST by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the update.


465 posted on 11/02/2004 10:52:56 AM PST by meow
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To: traderrob6
Troll incoming

All he said was that we won't let them steal the election -- he probably meant democrats. Republicans don't steal elections.

466 posted on 11/02/2004 10:53:38 AM PST by Terriergal ("Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: kcvl

Democrats are doing everything they can to turn this country into a banana republic.


467 posted on 11/02/2004 11:06:32 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: SunkenCiv

Well I'd like to know the name of this so-called GOP official because so far none of the local stations here in Philly can put one up. The only named officials stating the voting machines were not rigged are dems.


468 posted on 11/02/2004 11:08:42 AM PST by MtHollyMolly (Freedom isn't free)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wasn't Rick Santorum on the radio this morning DISCUSSING this? Did he get bad information from "the internet"?


469 posted on 11/02/2004 11:12:57 AM PST by weegee (4 out of 3 Democrats will vote for Kerry this election.)
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To: SunkenCiv
It's a clicker. Yeah, that's it. It's a clicker.

Hopefully, the GOP is a little more skeptical than KYW.

470 posted on 11/02/2004 11:19:07 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: MtHollyMolly
Anonymity is the best defense when one is in the Media Wing of the Democratic Party.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

471 posted on 11/02/2004 11:20:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: weegee

FWIW, here's the story:

http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=41551

Tuesday, November 2, 2004

Deputy City Commissioner Says Internet Reports About Fraudulent Voting Are False

Deputy City Commissioner Ed Schulgan says the stories on the Internet and the "Drudge" report are not true.

The city is not impounding any voting machines, and they have found no machines that had votes on them already.

Schulgan says they've contacted all of the judges of elections in those areas, and they indicated that they printed out the ballots showing that all candidates had "zero" votes and that's when they opened the machines for voting.

As of 11:30am, Schulgan says voting is going smoothly in the city with relatively few problems and no complaints of harassment or intimidation.


472 posted on 11/02/2004 11:25:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

GOP says FRAUD wrong, OK BUT...What about the intimidation with a GUN?


473 posted on 11/02/2004 11:59:44 AM PST by Henchman (Who gave KERRY entré to the VC @ Paris? T.Kennedy? McGovern? ...some"high" low D'rat probably)
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To: Henchman

Per FNC, Dems now claiming that the machines are just showing the total number of votes cast using that machine during its lifetime. But if that were the case, I'd expect the numbers to be much larger.


474 posted on 11/02/2004 12:30:19 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Every time that panicky feeling washes over me, I'm regarding it as a prompt to PRAY!)
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To: Otta B Sleepin
FOX news says the DEMS claim they have affidavits showing the machines were at zero "when the polls opened". YUP, because they were caught!
475 posted on 11/02/2004 12:44:17 PM PST by Henchman (Who gave KERRY entré to the VC @ Paris? T.Kennedy? McGovern? ...some"high" low D'rat probably)
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To: Henchman

You can bet they had those affidavits prepared well in advance!


476 posted on 11/02/2004 12:57:49 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Every time that panicky feeling washes over me, I'm regarding it as a prompt to PRAY!)
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To: kcvl

This is the new Democratic party. This is why I LEFT the LEFT. Who would want to belong to such a group? The only way they think they can win is by cheating, intimidating, vandalizing, and lying. And they call US NAZIS? Kerry will go down HARD today. Wait and see.


477 posted on 11/02/2004 1:56:32 PM PST by Just Lori (FOUR MORE YEARS! MAKE IT HAPPEN! VOTE!!!!)
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To: Otta B Sleepin

Any more news on this?


478 posted on 11/02/2004 2:07:29 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Henchman

LOL and the dems wouldn't lie either, would they? Any Republicans sign those affidavits??


479 posted on 11/02/2004 2:39:00 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!",,,,,,Baghdad Bob)
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To: CyberAnt

This one has been debunked, but others won't be. There is going to be a ton of fraud in this election, with the Rats bringing their full freak-show arsenal into play.

It's soon going to become clear that the best answer is to privatize vote collection. Working Republicans can't compete with Demos who have no job so can wait in line for 3 hours. If this was run by competing private companies, at least some would have an incentive to allow express voting for a reasonable fee (the government could pay one contractor to insure that everyone could still vote for free, if they wanted to wait long enough, and also to trust the low-ball contractor).

All the details could and would be worked out by private enterprise: A registration scheme similar to that used for internet domain names could allow multiple competing voting companies without worrying about redundant votes, and auditing would also be privatized to keep the system honest. What would happen is that, like anything else, some companies would earn a reputation for excellent quick service and reliability, and people (either as individuals or as communities) would pay more to vote with them.

One can imagine some problems, but not compared to the mess of fraud, harassment, and trial lawyers that we have now.


480 posted on 11/02/2004 2:43:46 PM PST by hobartj
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