Posted on 11/03/2004 10:31:24 AM PST by Fatalis
Take CNN (please!):
Bush (Incumbent): 743,621 50%
Kerry: 730,067 49%That's about 13,000 votes of 774,000, for a 1.7% margin for Bush.
Bush(Incumbent) 363,369 50%
Kerry: 351,070 49%
That's about 12,000 votes out of 714,000, for a 1.6% margin for Bush.
But...
Kerry: 340,019 50%
Bush(Incumbent): 330,848 49%
That's a 9,000 vote margin of about 671,000 votes between them, for a 1.3% margin for Kerry.
Kerry:1,490,101 50%
Bush (Incumbent): 1,477,405 49%That's about 13,000 votes out of almost 3 million, or a 0.4% margin for Kerry.
So President Bush has bigger margins in Iowa in New Mexico than Kerry has in Wisconsin and New Hampshire, yet Kerry gets the calls while he stalls on nis concession speech.
The media's judgment calls are worthless......
We don't need to be told what we can see for ourselves.
tHE MEDIA IS DYING A SLOW DEATH.
And Katie Couric looked so wonderfly chipper today!
Has CNN called Ohio for Bush yet?
What are they waiting for?
Media fairness on review ....
who cares its over they lost
has Wisconsin counted absentee and military ballots?
even after the acceptance speech, Rove should fight for every state.
Will give us more time to celebrate.
I know it doesn't make sense. I wonder if there are military ballots for New Hampshire and Wisconsin. It would be a hoot to also see those states go Red.
Bush and Kerry to speak per Fox News now.
we care, because there is another election in 2008, and if there is fraud in these states or structural procedures there to exclude votes for us - we want to find out NOW.
sO IS THE CAPS LOCK KEY :)~
People stop sweating this. There are still more absentees out that could effect the races in both NM and Iowa, and in both states they have precints unaccounted for.
They are waiting for the dead voter's ballots to be counted three times.
Anyone else notice Al-Katie Kouric dressed in black today?
in a hurry
So how many electoral votes will our president end up with?
The whole cast in Black on Today show.........priceless
The same old neo-Marxists that run our MSM are deliberatgely stone-walling. As soon as it is official that Kerrey has conceded, the MSM will recognise that Bush won the states he has obviously won.
This is just so disgusting.
All four states have 99% of precints reporting, and every state still has provisional and absentee ballots to account.
Nobody wants to have to go out and defend someone again like Brokaw and Jennings had to brace up Rather in September. Besides, we know in our heart of hearts that only NH and WI are within the margins that trip the switch for an automatic recount. IA and NM are well beyond that point with the margins above 0.5%.
last night there was 72,000 absentee ballots and two precints still needing counting in Iowa, they went home and were supposed to start this morning. That more than covers the 13,000 difference in actually votes counted, thats why Iowa hasnt been called, pretty much the same as in New Mexico.
Wisconsin cannot be picked up even if all the absentees went Bush, I here. Same with New Hampshire, no MSM conspircay this time.
Which, in the real world, break more or less the same as those cast in boxes on the day. Absentee votes in fact usually break slightly rightward.
It's just their short attention spans at work, actually. They've moved on, you see, and now must tend to more important duties...
...their resume polishing. :)
286 if nothing changes.
I firmly believe that ALL the media (including FOX) is guilty of stretching it out to keep people watching as long as possible. You are correct, NM and Iowa are both firmly in the red state catagory.
NM has had dirty politics for as long as I can remember, and now we have Bill Richardson for our governor. He learned a lot of dirty tricks from Bill Clinton; however, he knew a bunch of his own.
A state that goes (D) can be called when the numbers show mathematically that the (D) will win.
But a state that goes (R) can ONLY be called when the (D) candidate says it's okay, that he accepts the results, won't litigate, etc. It DOESN'T MATTER what the numbers show, the (D) candidate has to "concede" the state for him to lose that state.
Sheesh. It's so simple. ;-)
Although the media called both New Hampshire and Wisconsin, do we still have a chance of winning them? The margins are very close.
Links?
LOL @ your tag line!
LOL!!! Nice explanation
To an extent they wanted to avoid any early call meltdowns, unlike in 2000. However, I wouldn't have a problem if they wanted to say that all four of those states were still up for grabs, or that all four were decided. It's the absence of a clear standard that's noteworthy.
I agree....we should fight for every vote (who does that sound like?)
The Dims have thrown up every frickin' statistic about 2000 every time Bush tries to do something. We need to have every vote counted so we see a continuous stream of Red (should be Blue) across the South, Lower Midwest, Southwest and Mountain states.
Mandate, mandate, mandate.
Wisconsin would have been nice to have. It was close.
Probably not. The statistical probability of a recount where errors on each side don't cancel each other out is very low. When recounts have disproportionate error rates sufficient to flip an election, there are usually some shenanigans involved. This was the case in Florida in 2000, where Gore gained with each recount. The Dems were cheating, just not all at once. The trick is to keep counting, and finding pretexts to recount, until you can declare victory.
I'll need to see the numbers or a source for that.
I agree that Rove should continue fight for those states -- not only to increase the EV spread, but also to eliminate OH as a deciding factor (muzzle the whiners).
Yeah I noticed she wore black.\
I think Matt's suit was also black (or a very dark blue).
The media wants to deny Bush a "mandate." It won't work. the people have already given him one!
Wisconsin, like all other states, has both absentee and overseas absentee ballots to count. There are also credible reports of significant "over-votes" in Milwaukee.
If only to clean up rampant voter fraud, the Justice department needs to review the fraudulent vote problem in Wisconsin and throughout the United States. I want to see prosecutions!
I agree with you 100%
If you cut off about 1/3rd to 40% of the counties adjacent to major bodies of water (Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Great Lakes) and those adjacent to the Mexican Border, you wouldn't have much Democratic blue left.
It's like if you took a picture of America; cropped it off at the left edge, left bottom edge, central top edge, and the upper right edge, you'd have a braille message that even the blind media could read:
MANDATE! MANDATE! MANDATE!
Just think, With New Hampshire, Bush could have won without Ohio
I actully think Wisconsin IS a red state.
I live in WI and watched the results all night long. I noticed at about 1:00 that Dane County (Madison) had stopped sending in their results with 93% of their precincts reporting. When the difference between Bush and Kerry got down to 5,000 votes, all of a sudden another 6% of the precincts in Dane County reported and the vote changed to a difference of 20,000 votes. They still held back 1%!! I think they were still manufacturing votes and waiting to see how many they needed. I haven't checked the map today...they may still be stuffing ballots boxes while waiting for the absentee ballots to be counted.
Great minds think alike.
Just called the Iowa Secr of State and complained about the bananna republic operation. Must be too many voter machines made by Halliburton slowing the vote total. Yeas, the Prez is leading by about 13.000 with approx 13050 absentee, etc votes to be counted. Kerry would have to win something like 98% of those remaining.
Of course, the Sec of State here is mug shot Chet (sneaky) Culver, Dem.
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