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Darwin's greatest challenge tackled
European Molecular Biology Laboratory ^ | 10/28/2004 | EMBL

Posted on 11/03/2004 5:11:47 PM PST by general_re

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1 posted on 11/03/2004 5:11:47 PM PST by general_re
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To: PatrickHenry

Boink.


2 posted on 11/03/2004 5:12:25 PM PST by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: general_re

Man! God's going to be pissed that you found out his secret!


3 posted on 11/03/2004 5:15:30 PM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: general_re
"In the beginning...God."

'nuff said.

4 posted on 11/03/2004 5:19:57 PM PST by doingtherightthing (I stand with President Bush)
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To: general_re; PatrickHenry
I've been assured that science will never explain the origin of the eye. Therefore, this article is wrong.
5 posted on 11/03/2004 5:21:56 PM PST by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: general_re

eyeball ping


6 posted on 11/03/2004 5:21:57 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: MVP)
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To: general_re
This hasn't been too much of a secret. Even in the days of Darwin and Wallace, zoologists had the eye argument nailed. There are some interesting technical objections to the theory of evolution, but the 'half-eye' has never been one of them.
7 posted on 11/03/2004 5:22:16 PM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Starve The Beast

The eye cells have it!


8 posted on 11/03/2004 5:23:55 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Vote for Kerry for your own security. I'm Osama Bin Laden and I approved this message.")
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To: general_re
Yes, and all those fossilized ape skulls they occasionally find in Africa and the National Geographics staff fawn over, are really our uncles too. NOT!
9 posted on 11/03/2004 5:25:26 PM PST by Imabeliever (One need not be demon possessed to convert to Islam, but soon will be.)
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To: general_re
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/02/040218074335.htm

Salamanders don't get glaucoma because they can readily regenerate retinal cells. The same is true of newts, frogs, and some types of fish. "We're trying to understand the remarkable regenerative powers of these lower vertebrates, and through this understanding, develop strategies to stimulate regeneration in the human retina," Reh said.

While salamanders can regenerate retinal cells through their life, many other species lose this ability as they age. "At some point in each species life cycle, the stem cells in the retina make a transition from a regenerative cell to a cell that will make a scar in response to injury, like the cells that cause scars in the spinal cord," Reh said. "Chickens make the transition a few weeks after hatching in most of their retina, though they retain some limited capacity to regenerate retinal cells throughout life. In rats, it's only a matter of a few days after the cells are generated that they lose their ability to regenerate other retinal cells."

Human retinas seemingly can't repair themselves, yet in recent studies human retinal cells have grown new neurons when cultured in the laboratory. "The hope is that many of the molecular and cellular mechanisms necessary for regeneration, that serve amphibians so well, are still in place in humans," Reh said. "Future studies from the nervous system, as well as other organ systems, should enable us to define the roadblocks in the regenerative process, and develop strategies to go around them."

10 posted on 11/03/2004 5:26:04 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: general_re

Now that's real interesting, a light sensitive cell "evolving" in a dark area. It couldn't be that God was getting it ready, oh perish the thought /sarcasm


11 posted on 11/03/2004 5:29:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It couldn't be that God was getting it ready...

Could be. Perhaps our knowledge of how He did it is evolving as well ;)

12 posted on 11/03/2004 5:42:53 PM PST by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Evolution Ping! This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and maybe other science topics like cosmology.
See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail me to be added or dropped.
13 posted on 11/03/2004 5:47:25 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry

"They have elucidated..."


Well, he just lost half the Creationists by using that big word.


14 posted on 11/03/2004 6:15:57 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: general_re

I see. ;)


15 posted on 11/03/2004 6:22:47 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Blzbba
They have elucidated..."

Well, he just lost half the Creationists by using that big word.

He sure lost the dyslexics--they think he's discussing plane geometry...

16 posted on 11/03/2004 6:25:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I see. ;)

No, "Eye" see.

Ba-dum-BUM!

17 posted on 11/03/2004 6:26:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: general_re; PatrickHenry
Ah, but of what possible survival benefit was the original ability to detect light?

For a well-thought out explanation go here -- and then read the book.

18 posted on 11/03/2004 6:28:02 PM PST by aculeus
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I see. ;)

How long until a Christian brings in John 9:41 out of context?

Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains."

19 posted on 11/03/2004 6:29:34 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: general_re

Didn't Hume base an early version of argument-from-design upon the eye?


20 posted on 11/03/2004 6:30:22 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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