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1 posted on 11/03/2004 6:23:57 PM PST by M. Peach
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It's like a crowded lifeboat,

Everything in the boat becomes community property, people are forced to share and take turns, and to submit every action to the rule of the captain.

To say that people in a life boat tend to act like commies because they are wrong-headed, is silly.

Same with densely populated cities.


219 posted on 11/03/2004 9:42:17 PM PST by Age of Reason
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And that is why population growth from immigration threatens America's freedom: the more people, the less freedom.


220 posted on 11/03/2004 9:43:46 PM PST by Age of Reason
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Flyover country lives in the real world...survival is key. We don't have many good paying jobs, high hopes..we deal with reality.

Urbanites tend to live in a very Plastic world..all is show and energy, most of it slight of hand.


229 posted on 11/03/2004 10:59:44 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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See tagline...


231 posted on 11/04/2004 1:53:41 AM PST by backhoe (2 Americas- Producers, and the Parasites that feed on them...)
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Urban = dependence.

Suburban = cooperation.

Rural = independence.

238 posted on 11/04/2004 6:59:43 AM PST by jimfree (Cleveland rocks! (My venue for 72 hours in Ohio))
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i think it has to do with the concentration of universites in the cities.


241 posted on 11/04/2004 7:13:38 AM PST by uncitizen (meet the new boss, same as the old boss!)
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I theorize that it has something to do with herd mentality, but I'm just a stupid hick, so what do I know. :P


247 posted on 11/04/2004 9:19:21 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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tell you sons to crack open a few basic psychology texts and look for classic experiments
on what happens when population density is increased in rat colonies...

Then you will understand high-population density centers and the crazy things
done there by the largely DemocRATic populace...


248 posted on 11/04/2004 9:25:19 AM PST by VOA
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One word.

Main Entry: en·ti·tle·ment

Pronunciation: -'tI-t&l-m&nt

Function: noun

1 a : the state or condition of being entitled : RIGHT b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract

2 : a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program


249 posted on 11/04/2004 9:32:58 AM PST by NetSurfer (All your provisional ballots are belong to us.)
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Rural areas tend to be people who are more independant and do not want to see the federal government taking their taxes and using it for entitlement programs. Rural people tend to have a higher regard for private property rights and are insulted by much of the environmentalism blather which comes from much in the media and city living folks who have no clue. Rural people tend to be more religious and thus place an emphasis on honest politicians who they can trust.

Inner City people I believe vote bases on their pocketbook since many of them are on welfare and want a larger government providing programs and money for them. Inner city people do not understand economics in my opinion and the arguments of the Dems make sense to them even though the Dem policies are actually worse economically for everyone. I think it comes down to people who are independant minded vs. dependant people.


250 posted on 11/04/2004 9:35:35 AM PST by Hurricane Bruiser (Property taxes prove that everyone is simply a renter)
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Areas with denser populations tend to need more direct governmental support in terms of service---and employment. Areas with denser populations also tend to attract the most needy people, and needy people vote for those who support them---liberals. Areas with denser populations are often home to institutes of higher education and those who work in higher education, and academia skews liberal. Areas with denser populations attract those who fancy themselves cosmopolitan and erudite---often elements of a liberal mindset.


251 posted on 11/04/2004 9:37:47 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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They believe that situation comedies are reality based and want to fit in like the "cool" people on TV. It's the collective mind meld of people with too much time on their hands and they don't have the will to investigate for themselves. They mistakenly believe that democrats are the "in crowd". They let the media supply the thoughts they are too lazy to supply for themselves.
252 posted on 11/04/2004 9:50:04 AM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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Its very simple for me

Urban areas include those that have gotten used to and expect handouts from the govt. Democrats are the party of handouts and what can the govt. do for me crowd.

Rural areas are more or less people who are more self -reliant and do not depend on or do not expect the govt. to provide them freebies.

This is where the republicans need to make in-roads with minorities. The govt is not the nipple and that they are empowered to achieve their potential w/o blaming others for their failure.


253 posted on 11/04/2004 9:59:31 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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Let's see, the big city; swimming pools, movie stars, gays, the arts, big universities and their associated staff as well as voting age student bodies, sex shops, degenerates, homeless shelters and the people who enable them through misguided sympathy, government services centers (welfare offices), public transportation, free clinics, big media,...Not sure if I hit them all but that's some of the mitigating factors that strengthen the cancer upon which this nation bleeds its wealth and shapes the opinions and motivations of the liberal.


256 posted on 11/04/2004 2:24:22 PM PST by PeteePie
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That's Why RUDY G could be a great national contender he won Twice in NYC ,Running against Dinkins,one of the worst mayors ever


261 posted on 11/04/2004 4:21:23 PM PST by rang1995
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Wow. 262 replies by the time I see this thread for the first time. I know the answer to this one because the difference between urban and rural mindsets is something I've pondered for years.

The answer is actually multi-dimensional. For starters, it is a well known fact among linguists that small populations tend to preserve features of earlier language and dialect forms than larger population areas do. Perhaps a better word is "conserve" rather than "preserve." This feature, I believe, translates over to other areas of human life, though, including religious beliefs, moral values, and culture. Smaller communities tend to conserve earlier standards better than larger ones do.

Now, as many people realize as they get older, "newer" does not necessarily mean "better." In fact, the older I get, the more I believe that fewer and fewer "new" ways of doing things are better than the old ways.

And then there is the matter of self-reliance. Individualism. People who live in small, rural communities, don't have the "benefits" of the interconnectedness of large urban communities, where most everybody within these urban environments has their own special niche in the big machine. In the rural setting, most folks have to know quite a bit about just about everything. Ask a farmer, for example. You'll find out the average farmer not only knows a lot about crops, breeds, and how to grow and raise them, but he or she also knows how to repair most of the equipment that they use, fix the house or barn and the truck, and just about everything else. This is common in rural areas. These folks are independent and self reliant. They think for themselves. They don't like or trust big government, thus by definition, they are conservative, whether republican or democrat.

Just about the only "specialists" I have found in rural communities, except doctors and lawyers, are transplants from the big city who decide to "get away from it all" so they can express their "inner artist" as they attempt to be creative in an alien environment. Usually doesn't work until a whole bunch of other city dwellers move out into the sticks to join them, bringing all their wacked out city values and liberalism with them. But then it isn't rural anymore. Often these areas become gentrified, as the urbanites buy up properties, driving up real estate values (and taxes) for the locals, who as a result, resent the urbanites all the more. And adhere even more strongly to their conservative values.

Well, that's the way I see it.

264 posted on 11/04/2004 4:49:35 PM PST by Cooltouch
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I believe that part of it is, government jobs. In other words bureaucracy's breed bigger government they then feed on each other, more departments, more agencies, more committies, more boards, etc. I have been to numerous county, city and board meetings. The majority of the attendees are governmentally employed, few if any citizens.
Job security at the public trough.
269 posted on 11/04/2004 8:21:34 PM PST by Jonathan E
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One significant factor is that cities are largely controlled by old time corrupt Dem machines combined with the economic failure of said machine. Cities that have had Republican administrations fare better economically. So, the residents are kept in dependancy (some would say slavery).


278 posted on 11/05/2004 12:47:48 AM PST by I_dmc
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More union workers. Higher concentration of poor living on the dole...


279 posted on 11/05/2004 12:52:41 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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Just an observation. In rural areas, people can't get away with lying so easily. It does not take long for the dishonest to build a reputation. It makes it easier to identify the vocal stress in a liar's voice when you are used to hearing people tell you the truth.

In cities, people use the anonymity of numbers to screw people in business, and (for some) lying is a way of life. Not much to compare to.

In rural areas, the basics are never taken for granted, and are commonly self-provided, (well water, septic system, garden, dig out your own road when it snows, have a generator if the power goes out, etc.). This makes for an ability to identify critical issues immediately, and let the rest slide until critical items are taken care of. Common sense must prevail, in some areas your life depends on it.

Urban folks tend to have a different set of priorities and ideas about what is necessary.

These seminal differences make for a different set of priorities.

Also, when, at times, it is you and God who get your butt out of the snowdrift at 30 below, you feel a little closer to the Creator, and tend to listen a trifle better to His standards.

Not so amidst the towers of babble.

280 posted on 11/05/2004 12:53:42 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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