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Lefties reeling
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/4/4 | Joe Garofoli

Posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:12 AM PST by SmithL

Wednesday was a day of soul-searching, wound-licking and head- scratching in the spiritual home of the nation's progressives, as many Bay Area supporters of John Kerry pondered whether the liberal island they live on is shrinking.

"It's so frustrating that there's going to be no voice for progressive issues right now," Stanford University sophomore Becca Miller, 18, said as she participated in one of two demonstrations Wednesday in San Francisco. "But it's important not to give up hope."

Miller spent the last two months working swing-state phone banks and campaigning for Kerry, and Tuesday she cast her first vote for president. Wednesday, she wondered if it mattered in a country that was a lot more conservative than she thought.

Soon after Kerry's midmorning concession speech, progressives swapped e- mails musing about moving to Canada, and the blogosphere swelled with woulda- coulda-shoulda second-guessing of the campaign.

Tuesday's results were humbling, said David Talbot, editor-in-chief of Salon, the San Francisco-based liberal online magazine.

So humbling that some -- including the popular progressive blog Daily Kos -- reached into a dark moment of Republican history for inspiration: Sen. Barry Goldwater's 1964 drubbing at the hands of wartime Democratic President Lyndon Johnson.

Instead of sulking, Republicans emerged from that debacle and coalesced, formed think tanks, started winning local elections and sowed the seeds of their supportive network of talk radio and television outlets.

And, pointed out blogger Markos Moulitsas Zúniga, a.k.a. Kos, they got Richard Nixon elected four years later.

"If you oppose Bush, now isn't the time to feel sorry for yourself," Kos wrote. "Now is the time to get to work."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; commies; kerrydefeat; lefties; marxists; shellshocked
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1 posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:13 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Isn't "progressive" another word for "socialist"


2 posted on 11/04/2004 7:50:55 AM PST by finallyatexan
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To: SmithL

We ain't seen nuthin' yet. Wait until their hero Yasser Arafat dies any day now. They will be wailing in the streets. I can here it now. Bush poisoned him!


3 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:22 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is a threat to national security)
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To: finallyatexan

'Progressive' is a euphemism for Marxist.


4 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:42 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: SmithL

"It's so frustrating that there's going to be no voice for progressive issues right now," Stanford University sophomore Becca Miller, 18, said as she participated in one of two demonstrations Wednesday in San Francisco. "But it's important not to give up hope."

Hey Becca, when you start paying progressive taxes give us a call & let us know what you "think" - not how you "feel".


5 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:56 AM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: SmithL

The left has not yet had it's Goldwater moment.And even after they have had it they won't recognize what they need to do to win.


6 posted on 11/04/2004 7:53:26 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: SmithL

I wish these "progressives" all the success in the world. May they divide the dems into a million different factions.


7 posted on 11/04/2004 7:53:37 AM PST by carpediem365
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To: finallyatexan

More like "communist." America will never knowingly accept a doctrine completely antithetical to the Constitution. It has to be wrapped in code words like "Progressive."


8 posted on 11/04/2004 7:53:42 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: SmithL

Yeah, they'll sit around and "soul-search" and "head [!] scratch" for a few weeks. Then they'll jump up and spew out some idiotic gibberish that has nothing to do with the reality of the situation, then gallop off wildly in all directions. Anything to avoid confronting the harsh truth: America does not want what they're selling.


9 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:48 AM PST by IronJack (R)
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To: SmithL

Brothers and sisters, this is a wake-call. If we think that these people are going to sit still and nurse their wounds for four years we are sadly mistaken. We will have to be better organized, more vocal, more visible and more aggressive if we are going to overcome the likes of Soros and his pigletts. We can't rest on our laurels, the major battles still lie ahead.


10 posted on 11/04/2004 7:55:03 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: finallyatexan
Isn't "progressive" another word for "socialist"?

Yes, "progressive" = socialist. And, the progressives are so smug in their feel good ignorance.

11 posted on 11/04/2004 7:55:29 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: SmithL
I think that it is fundamentally impossible for the dems to restructure themselves to be acceptable to America. Rush has had their number for at least a decade and that is that they have to hide their true socialist/statist agenda from view to be acceptable. And I also think that the leadership truly wants to kill the Republican leadership, not just to defeat them. It's the win at all cost mindset coupled with the ends justifies the means tactics.

All things being equal, the current democratic leadership has to die off literally for anything acceptable to develop. I give it fifteen years.

12 posted on 11/04/2004 7:55:44 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs know what to do to an exit poll. W1 2x!)
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To: finallyatexan

I say it's another word for Communist.


13 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:01 AM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: SmithL

"Now is the time to get to work."

You mean, like, as in "Get a job"?


14 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:17 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: SmithL

Hey, "Becca,"

You're 18 years old. You're naive. Maybe when you grow up and see where your left-wing attitude takes you, you might change your mind.

Get a real job working for the college kids who voted for Bush, pay some taxes, have a couple of kids and learn something. If you're still a lib then, then you don't have any excuses. You're an idiot.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:22 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Tell Fox you want the Truth, not "Fair & Balanced.")
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To: BenLurkin

I would be happy if liberals would go back to being liberal.


16 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: SmithL

They probably wrapped themselves up in blanket last night and cried. Life is tough, ain't it?


17 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:16 AM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: SmithL

They have'nt seen nothing yet..."Their Goldwater moment" will come when the Hillster runs in four years....


18 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:34 AM PST by Stateline
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To: SmithL

The irony is that these bay area buffoons are as responsible as anyone for getting the President re-elected. They were all cheering when Gavin Newsome violated the law and by fiat "legalized" gay marriage in S.F., but all that did, in concert with the MA supreme court decision, was put the gay marriage issue on the ballot in 11 states and one could certainly argue that that issue was a real motivator for getting out the base in alot of states that went for Bush. Idiots. They're great at winning short term victories, but just don't understand how to win wars, figuratively and literally.


19 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:49 AM PST by CoolPapaBoze
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To: finallyatexan
Isn't "progressive" another word for "socialist"

SSSHHHHH. Not so loud! They don't want the "moderates" to know that.

20 posted on 11/04/2004 7:58:05 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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