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California Will Become a Red State by 2008
CA Sec't of State ^

Posted on 11/04/2004 1:26:35 PM PST by lemura

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Fresno, Kern, San Bernadino & Riverside are California's fastest growing counties. The population growth is not from illegals, but rather, middle-class home owners. Add these counties to strong pro-freedom counties like Orange & San Diego, and California could be a red state within 4 years.

When this happens, the Bay Area will feel within Calif like NYC feels within the country.

1 posted on 11/04/2004 1:26:38 PM PST by lemura
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Bush also increased his share of the Hispanic vote to 42%... If the GOP can continue that going forward it would put Cali back in play...


2 posted on 11/04/2004 1:29:42 PM PST by Gustafm1000
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To: lemura

As a transplanted native Californian (born in Riverside County, raised in Orange County), that would surely be good to see.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 1:30:10 PM PST by P8riot (A gun is just a substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a..........)
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To: lemura

Interesting perspective. However, it's gonna take a LOT of growth to surpass the 90/10 Dem voting of San Francisco and LA.


4 posted on 11/04/2004 1:30:16 PM PST by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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Nah. LA and the Bay will still outweigh everyone else.

But then there is the San Andreas fault . . .


5 posted on 11/04/2004 1:30:16 PM PST by noblejones
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It would be nice, not sure if it will swing in just four years.

Don't forget the growth in the Central Valley and Northern California which are also very conservative, Kern, Tulare, Merced, Stanislaus, San Joaquin, Sacramento, Placer, El Dorado are all counties showing substantial growth and vote Republican.
6 posted on 11/04/2004 1:30:36 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: lemura

Here's hoping you're right.


7 posted on 11/04/2004 1:31:01 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (If you keep doing what you've always done, you're always going to get what you've always gotten.)
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To: lemura
that would be nice, but you might want to review the same stats for the last 6 presidental elections.

It is true that the central valley is growing, however IIRC LA county is "growing" faster.

8 posted on 11/04/2004 1:32:21 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Lurch planned to graft postVietnam policy on Iraq:Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: RockinRight
Interesting perspective. However, it's gonna take a LOT of growth to surpass the 90/10 Dem voting of San Francisco and LA.

As a born and raised Calif. I say this in jest.....All it would take is one well placed earthquake.

9 posted on 11/04/2004 1:33:43 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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it's gonna take a LOT of growth to surpass the 90/10 Dem voting of San Francisco and LA.

Initially I thought you had a typo.
Yes, SF is especially bad, and they do have a 9/10/2001 mentality.

10 posted on 11/04/2004 1:34:44 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Lurch planned to graft postVietnam policy on Iraq:Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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IIRC LA county is "growing" faster.

It won't be long until LA reaches saturation. There just isn't that many places to grow into, thanks to the Enviro-Wackos.

11 posted on 11/04/2004 1:34:45 PM PST by P8riot (A gun is just a substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a..........)
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To: weegee

Nevada County, CA's *final* breakdown is listed above.


12 posted on 11/04/2004 1:37:17 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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But then there is the San Andreas fault Pelosi wants to rename it Bushs fault
13 posted on 11/04/2004 1:37:21 PM PST by SF Republican
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That would be nice but I think it will take a lot longer than that.
We live in Sonoma County. I finally felt free again this morning as I was driving my son to preschool. Almost all the Kerry yard signs were gone. It was nice not to be assaulted by the fact that I feel totally out of place here.
Then I got smacked back down to reality when I passed a car plastered with bumperstickers that said, "Impeach Bush", "Not in my name!", "No war on Iraq", "A village in Texas is missing an idiot" blah, blah, blah.
Oh well, I could always move.


14 posted on 11/04/2004 1:37:28 PM PST by kimchi lover (We voted and the world listened.)
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It won't be long until LA reaches saturation

After Prop 187 in 1994, IIRC those #s grew quite a bit, and are still growing.

15 posted on 11/04/2004 1:39:13 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Lurch planned to graft postVietnam policy on Iraq:Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
IIRC LA county is "growing" faster

Whatever population growth the city of LA is getting is from in-filling; all the new county growth is in Santa Clarita out to the Kern/Ventura borders - pure middle-class.

If you want to see even larger tracts of land being groomed for 5,000+ housing developments are far as the eye can see, take a drive out the 91, come back on the 10, head up thru aforementioned Valencia on the 5 and take a drive up the 99.

These zones represent California's political future.

16 posted on 11/04/2004 1:39:31 PM PST by lemura
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Good news bump!

As the Hispanics buy homes, open their own businesses, raise their children and become active in their churches, they become very conservative. It will become very interesting to see what % of the Hispanics voted for GW.


17 posted on 11/04/2004 1:39:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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california is going to have a major financial collapse if they cannot find a way to stop these stupid/very expensive ballot inititives .when it finally burns them we will drag it back from the ashes.


18 posted on 11/04/2004 1:40:14 PM PST by jneesy (certified southern right wing hillbilly nutjob)
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To: Gustafm1000
Bush also increased his share of the Hispanic vote to 42%... If the GOP can continue that going forward it would put Cali back in play...

Given that a substantial portion of the Republican base wants much tougher immigration laws, this could be dicey. Bush lost California by a million votes; that's a huge margin to try to overcome unless 1) Bush takes leadership on immigration in a way that pleases Hispanics without alienating his anti-illegal immigration base, or 2) he avoids the immigration issue and the Democrats continue to alienate Hispanics by moving further leftward in the culture wars. The first is like acheiving peace in the Middle East, and the second may not be a given if the Dims do any serious soul-searching. Short answer: I don't see California going Red any time soon unless a popular Republican from California is on the Republican ticket.

19 posted on 11/04/2004 1:40:51 PM PST by kezekiel
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lol


20 posted on 11/04/2004 1:41:47 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Lurch planned to graft postVietnam policy on Iraq:Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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