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The Day the Enlightenment Went Out (Garry Wills loses it)
The New York Times ^ | November 4, 2004 | Garry Wills

Posted on 11/04/2004 3:49:47 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: silent_jonny

>>>Wow--Isn't Wills a Catholic?

No.

He does claim to be one though. See also John Kerry, Ted Kennedy.

patent


61 posted on 11/04/2004 4:38:30 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: deetch
Oh, but it does seem infinitely more glamourous to get out the youth vote by rock stars than any part of conservative values. Imagine, dance music, party all night, do drugs, have wild uncommitted sex, sleep all day, make fun of squares that have to work all day in cubicles, actually producing everything the rock star MTV generation consumes. The evil, religious, boring squares who do all the work so they can play, the stupid inbred Bush voters who make it possible for rock stars to exist.
62 posted on 11/04/2004 4:50:05 PM PST by Sender (*F*O*U*R*M*O*R*E*Y*E*A*R*S*!!!)
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To: durasell

Wills is a failed seminarian obsessed with sex. Teddy Kennedy has his defenders as well.


63 posted on 11/04/2004 4:56:55 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: durasell

This is not unlike Andrew Sullivan's "it's all about gays" meltdown. Perhaps in a few months many things will be forgotten.


64 posted on 11/04/2004 4:57:06 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: silent_jonny
Read the following review of Papal Sin.
65 posted on 11/04/2004 4:59:38 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: EveningStar

I don't know about the Sullivan thing -- but I really loved Wills' Lincoln and Augustine books. The John Wayne book wasn't bad for a pop culture bio -- though my interest in Wayne is somewhat limited, so that might have colored my perceptions of it.

And truthfully, I don't care about his personal life.


66 posted on 11/04/2004 5:02:07 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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We need to remind the people on the other side of the aisle when they spew rhetoric about how the religious right carried Bush to the White House that it is religious fundamentalism that fuels terrorism.
Their efforts to undermine the religious right in this country is being put in terms that can quite easily be turned around to support the war on Islamic fundamentalism. They just might start to get it.


67 posted on 11/04/2004 5:02:40 PM PST by Newshues
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To: EveningStar
Jihads are scary things.

... except, of course, whenever it's a conservative President who's attempting to fight 'em.

THEN: they're just "understandable reactions to U.S. policies in Israel," or some similar off-brand of leftist codswallop. :)

68 posted on 11/04/2004 5:04:59 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Grampa Dave
Garry Wills is only happy when he is writing articles pushing the Gay agenda and...

He gay? That explains this rant. Give him Andrew's phone number.

69 posted on 11/04/2004 5:12:42 PM PST by Joe Miner
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To: randog
Thank God. I've had about enough lib'ral sunshine blown up my @ss.
Modern leftism is post-Enlightenment; it's a repudiation of objective reality and the logic and reason that's necessary to comprehend it. Christian fundamentalism is pre-Enlightenment; it's based on faith in the existence of a spirit world, and is also fundamentally opposed to rationality.

We needed conservatives to decisively defeat the left at this critical time in history. But if religious conservatism really became ascendent in this country it would eventually do a lot of damage on its own.

The moral zealots will, I predict, give some cause for dismay even to nonfundamentalist Republicans. Jihads are scary things. It is not too early to start yearning back toward the Enlightenment.

70 posted on 11/04/2004 5:13:35 PM PST by jennyp (It was a dark and stormy night and the world was in crisis. As usual.)
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To: durasell

I really know nothing about Wills' personal life but I guess I assumed he was hetero. Sullivan has always been highly respected by many conservatives. However, he recently disappointed many of them by apparently becoming a one issue voter. BTW, I don't oppose gay marriage but I think gays should try for civil unions first.


71 posted on 11/04/2004 5:15:58 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

On an evolutionary scale, Garry Wills and companions, including the N.Y. Times, rate pretty low...so professor Garry has unintentionally hit the mark.

If Professor Garry denigrates the Immaculate Conception (Virgin Birth), let him explain the miracle/mystery of his own (seemingly wasted) birth and life on the Lord's beautiful Earth - and let him attempt to create in his laboratory, say, a "simple" blade of grass.


72 posted on 11/04/2004 5:21:43 PM PST by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: EveningStar
America, the first real democracy in history, was a product of Enlightenment values - critical intelligence, tolerance, respect for evidence, a regard for the secular sciences. Though the founders differed on many things, they shared these values of what was then modernity.

wills should return his phd. greece and rome were democracies -- and after 200 years their leadership turned corrupt and began empire building. as far as enlightenment, it was a movement that freed people from the tyranny of prelates and other power authorities.

today, well past the 200 year mark of american democracy, what do we see in the democratic party? alliances among the elite to rule over the peasants. they rule with an iron fist, demanding way too many taxes and squelching uttered words that do not fall into the "politically correct" way of speaking. and let's not talk about taking away a person's right to protect himself.

enlightenment also brought free trade, wealth and the flow of information. the democrats have been the ones to tax imports and put policies in place that squelch the creation of jobs.

no mr. wills, the republicans are not taking away the age of the enlightenment. clearly, it is the dems doing this. george bush and the republicans are simply trying to ensure that the age of enlightment continues, in spite of the fog of democratic socialism.

73 posted on 11/04/2004 5:27:14 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: keithtoo
There are MANY educated people in America who do not believe in the fallacy of Evolution

let's take a minute and define terms. darwin's hypothesis of evolution is specifically about on species being able to evolve into another species. the definition of a species is determined by its dna structure, and with that, sexual activity among different species is not possible.

it is true that human thought evolves. it is also true that small frogs in a large pond will eventually evolve to a large than normal population of frogs. and it is true that the stronger in the species survive the dangers of wild, making the overall species stronger.

but to think that one species can evolve to another species has never been proven. if fact, many scientists doubt the hypothesis of darwin's evolution based on the paleonotlogical record and the mathematical probabilities of it happening. there are other scientific evidences discrediting darwin's hypothesis, but i have bloviated too long here.

bottom line, darwin's evolution is at best a hypothesis by his own definition of evolution.

74 posted on 11/04/2004 5:34:53 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: onevoter
I think the percentage of young voters who did turn out may have been largely conservative.

I read somewhere that all the Springsteen/Diddy/Affleck/et al youth vote, COMBINED, was outvoted 4-to-1 by Christian youth.

MM

75 posted on 11/04/2004 5:45:15 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Joe Miner

He's gay or loves pushing and writing about their agenda!


76 posted on 11/04/2004 5:52:31 PM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: EveningStar

I don't know anything about Wills' personal life, either. I always assumed he was a tweedy academic. Every prep school kid's favorite history professor.


77 posted on 11/04/2004 5:57:16 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: EveningStar

I don't know anything about Wills' personal life, either. I always assumed he was a tweedy academic. Every prep school kid's favorite history professor.


78 posted on 11/04/2004 5:57:18 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: EveningStar
It must really suck to be Garry Wills right now.

Puts a smile on my face it does. 8^)

5.56mm

79 posted on 11/04/2004 5:59:34 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Grampa Dave

Great PIC!!!!


80 posted on 11/04/2004 7:13:07 PM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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