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What Went Wrong?
The New Republic Online ^ | 11.04.04 | Peter Beinart

Posted on 11/04/2004 4:39:10 PM PST by thegreatbeast

The other side may be euphoric, but the intensity of their happiness can't match the intensity of our despair. Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term. They know he staked his presidency on a catastrophe, and that, by all rights, Iraq should be his political epitaph. Their victory, while sweet, can't be fully enjoyed because it isn't fully deserved.
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But cultural sensitivity is one thing; principle is another. In their attempts to win rural voters, Democrats have already essentially abandoned gun control. That doesn't keep me up at night. But gay marriage is different. The fact that it is widely unpopular cannot obscure the fact that it is morally momentous and morally right...

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To: thegreatbeast

The dems should promote this guy and put him in charge of strategy for 2008.


61 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:11 PM PST by leadpencil1 (GW +4 HA HA HA!)
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To: thegreatbeast

Nothing went wrong ~ GWB kicked the poser's a$$ ~ Big Time!


62 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:26 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I have a gay friend who is very involved in AIDS causes and such, voted mostly democrat in the past, but he described to me why he's voting for Bush with more passion than most conservatives have!

But he doesn't fit into the little molds these jerks have--just as the Hispanics and women don't--and thus he doesn't count to this writer.

63 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:36 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: thegreatbeast

What went wrong? They had the wrong strategery!


64 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:40 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather
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To: thegreatbeast
Just a small look into the Socialist/Communist/Hillary playbook.

Both of these impulses--to surrender to red-state values and to mock them--are diversions from the real work ahead. The path back to Democratic victory does not lie in cultural issues--it never has, and the best that can be hoped for in that arena is a draw. It lies in a more compelling economic agenda and a more convincing national security one. John Kerry spoke a lot about jobs in this election, and he pledged to protect popular government programs like Social Security. But, beyond his admirable health care plan, he offered no bold ideas for reducing the economic insecurity that terrifies so many working-class, middle-class, and even upper-middle-class Americans (see Jacob S. Hacker, "False Positive," August 16 & 23). It is true that Kerry failed to win back many lunch-pail, working-class former Democrats. But, instead of focusing merely on why those voters were alienated by the Democrats' cultural message, party strategists need to pay more attention to why they weren't attracted by its economic message.

65 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:44 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: John Thornton
Conservatives
66 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:47 PM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: thegreatbeast

Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term.

Oh, did I get a laugh out of this piece!

"Honest liberals" (!?) know that Kerry did not deserve to be elected. Such an honest person would have to consider Kerry's monumental arrogance and hubris throughout the campaign, and wonder if such a man merits the Oval Office. Kerry's lucky that the MSM gave him a free pass on his background, and we're lucky that 58 million didn't buy what he was selling.

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67 posted on 11/04/2004 4:52:51 PM PST by eddiespaghetti ( with the meatball eyes)
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To: Troublemaker

I wonder what his face looked like Tuesday night.


68 posted on 11/04/2004 4:53:07 PM PST by Rocko (Congratulations, President Bush!)
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To: SkyPilot
Reminder to self--use spell check.
69 posted on 11/04/2004 4:53:28 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: thegreatbeast
What Went Wrong?

Spent half a billion to elect Barak Obama?

You could have spent that money on...."the children".

70 posted on 11/04/2004 4:53:37 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: John Thornton
The question is what do they consider "morally wrong"?

Giving less than your "fair share" ("fair" as defined by Liberals) of taxes is the height of immorality.

71 posted on 11/04/2004 4:53:44 PM PST by FairWitness
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To: thegreatbeast
There's the Dem philosophy in a nutshell: you don't "deserve" it: You don't "deserve" that high income. You don't "deserve" that SUV. Forget what you think you've "earned," we elites will be the judge of whether you're worthy.

No wonder the majority of Americans don't want these pecksniffs running things.


72 posted on 11/04/2004 4:53:55 PM PST by John Jorsett (Kerry-Edwards: FORGING AHEAD)
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To: thegreatbeast
More liberal bullsh*t. The way you "earn" an office is to "win" that office. Last time I checked, we have popular sovereignty in the US; the people hold the ultimate power.

I'll bet a dollar to a donut that this writer never suggested that Bill Clinton did not "earn" the White House. And yet, Clinton never got a majority of all votes cast, nor did he approach the total votes just obtained by Bush.

If this liberal doesn't like democracy, he's welcome to say so.

Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob
73 posted on 11/04/2004 4:54:53 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: mercy
Zactly! The darkness cannot understand the light.

AND have you noticed, they can't get a good server for their websites. i'm tired of waiting everytime i want to see what crap they have to say next.

74 posted on 11/04/2004 4:55:11 PM PST by postaldave
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To: thegreatbeast

This is what liberalism has come to: Men smearing each other with excrement is called "morally momentous and morally right."


75 posted on 11/04/2004 4:55:54 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: thegreatbeast
Honest conservatives, even those who admire President Bush, know he didn't earn a second term.

FU Peter. Your judgement of my honesty seems to be as apt as your judgement of what's morally right.

76 posted on 11/04/2004 4:55:55 PM PST by j_tull (The Master Playwright urges you to play Right!)
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To: thegreatbeast

77 posted on 11/04/2004 4:56:09 PM PST by flada (At current rates, we can be in Iraq for 118 years to lose the number of troops lost in 'Nam.)
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To: CWOJackson
Hello,

I do not need to smash the link to read the rest of this pathetic drivel. I am thrilled that these fools are reduced to this, and at the same time sickened that any human can be so pathetic. I guess you could say, I am torn regarding this display.

Glad (and thrilled!) to be here, MOgirl
78 posted on 11/04/2004 4:56:43 PM PST by MOgirl (My tag line is gone, how weird...)
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To: Kenny500c
Actually, he walked out of the view of the media and returned with a dead goose. I'll bet you a cold Sam Adams Boston Lager that Kerry didn't shoot a thing.

BTW, didn't John look so good in that mustard colored barn jacket? Especially over a shirt and tie and suit pants!

79 posted on 11/04/2004 4:56:46 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: thegreatbeast

The real irony of this is that prior to the Iraq war, The New Republic was it's biggest booster. I somehow found myself in possession of half a dozen pre-war issues, and they were the biggest war boosters in sight.


80 posted on 11/04/2004 4:56:53 PM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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