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The passion that burned for Bush
CBS.MarketWatch.com ^ | Nov 5, 2004 | Jon Friedman

Posted on 11/05/2004 8:47:22 AM PST by Notwithstanding

If pop culture is a reflection of a nation's values, then the signs of a Bush victory were there a long time ago for anyone to see.

There've been two runaway box-office surprises this year: Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" and Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."

The Bush political team intuitively understood the tone of the U.S. voters much better than the media did. To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.

I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too.

Go figure.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; abortion; bush; bushwins; catholic; conservative; fahrenheit911; gibson; ilovemel; liberalsaskwhywhywhy; mel; melgibson; passion; pushpolls; redstates; religiousright; thepassion; w; zogbyism

1 posted on 11/05/2004 8:47:23 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: NYer

please ping!


2 posted on 11/05/2004 8:48:00 AM PST by Notwithstanding (TeeRayZuh - the other Gabor sister.)
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To: Notwithstanding
I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.
I read the New York Times

The answer is right there in front of you, yet you don't see it.

3 posted on 11/05/2004 8:48:57 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Notwithstanding

He still does not get it.
NYT, CNN, etc are NOT a reflection of the culture.
They are a fiction of the cultural ELITE.


4 posted on 11/05/2004 8:49:25 AM PST by Notwithstanding (TeeRayZuh - the other Gabor sister.)
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To: Notwithstanding
I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too.

Here in lies the problem. This man is rotting his brain... Try going to Church on Sunday morning to see what life is all about.

5 posted on 11/05/2004 8:49:50 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: Notwithstanding
" I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong. I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too....."

And he doesn't understand why he was so wrong?
6 posted on 11/05/2004 8:50:17 AM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Notwithstanding

"I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong. I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I... "


Question asked. Question answered.


7 posted on 11/05/2004 8:50:20 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Notwithstanding
To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.

I read the New York Times and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN...

How interesting that she answered her own question in the next sentence. I wonder if she realizes what she said?

8 posted on 11/05/2004 8:50:26 AM PST by HiJinx (Time to spend political capital ~ Enforce 200 ~ Close the Borders!)
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To: Notwithstanding

Idjit doesnt even realize he is in a media cocoon! ... too funny!

New York Times and New Yorker: Pravda for Liberals.


9 posted on 11/05/2004 8:52:03 AM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Notwithstanding

Hmmmm.... You think he should start reading other media?


10 posted on 11/05/2004 8:52:14 AM PST by Chevy34
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To: Notwithstanding
I read the New York Times and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too.

and how could I be so wrong?

Hehehehehehehe

11 posted on 11/05/2004 8:53:02 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: Notwithstanding
I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too.

So, in other words, you read the same crap spewed from different sources, and then wonder why you don't understand the majority of people in this country.

Gawd, these people are clueless.

12 posted on 11/05/2004 8:54:20 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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To: Notwithstanding
The Bush political team intuitively understood the tone of the U.S. voters much better than the media did. To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.

Put down the New York Times and listen to talk radio.

13 posted on 11/05/2004 8:54:52 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: Notwithstanding

Well, it's right in front of him - The Passion MADE what 300,000 MILLION dollars in the same amount of time that
F 9/11 .... made 113,000 Million .... NOW think about where that money was made and WHO went to see each MOVIE.... F9/11 made MOST of its money off of Al Qada and HAMAS .....

Passion MADE most of it's MONEY in THE USA ......

THINK ABOUT THAT!!! That's why the MEDIA and people who listen to them and believe them are living in the TWILIGHT ZONE!!!


14 posted on 11/05/2004 8:55:27 AM PST by BrigidZ
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To: Notwithstanding
To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.

I read the New York Times and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too

"To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong?"

If it were a snake it would have bit him.

15 posted on 11/05/2004 8:55:40 AM PST by Outraged
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To: Notwithstanding

what's with this "bad economy" stuff - the economy is doing remarkably well - the lib's would feel better about themselves if they could just admit it


16 posted on 11/05/2004 8:56:55 AM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: Notwithstanding
I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too.

I think she is being sarcastic. She is pointing out that the reason she missed everything about the election is precisely because she was reading only the Liberal sources.

17 posted on 11/05/2004 8:58:33 AM PST by Pete
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To: Notwithstanding

It largely comes down to the amazing power of the rural vote for conservative family values.

Values drive how you approach any solution even when you don't yet know of the problem yet to come. Values determine how your character will grow as you work through situations.

People in rural areas realize you can fully trust another if you can discern their value base.

Kerry never showed a solid set of values or core principles. Consequently, those who still understand character knew he could not possibly be a good fit for president.

I generally fear we are losing this "uncommon sense". However, for now, we are safe.


18 posted on 11/05/2004 8:58:34 AM PST by ScottM1968
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To: Notwithstanding
It could be argued that Bush failed by almost any measure in his first term. Still, millions of red-state voters identified with him and shared his values. They refused to let him lose.

It could be argued that Bush was completely successful by every measure in his first term EXCEPT in his attempts to reach out to the Bush Haters.

19 posted on 11/05/2004 9:00:05 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: Notwithstanding

"Wal-Mart Republicans?"

That is what he now call the Religious Right?

Oh sure. He understands us.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 9:01:12 AM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: Notwithstanding
NYT, CNN, etc are NOT a reflection of the culture. They are a fiction of the cultural ELITE.

They are a fiction of the people who have appointed themselves the cultural elite.

Try reading the trash these people think is good literature, or watching any of the films or programs they think are sophisticated. Like their news shows, it's all just a repetition of tiresome cliches, hateful slogans, or juvenile vulgarity. I'm sick of hearing these people are the cultural elite: they're just a bunch of flotsam that's washed up on the docks of Manhattan or Malibu and hasn't yet been washed away.

21 posted on 11/05/2004 9:02:23 AM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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To: Notwithstanding
The lesson that the media should take away from the 2004 election is this: It's just as important to know all about who is voting for president as it is to know about who is running for president.

And they wonder why they're in last place. They're not just "voters". They're "news consumers" and they aren't consuming yours. HELLO! It's important for ANY BUSINESS to know all about WHO IS BUYING THEIR PRODUCT (or not buying it as the case may be).

22 posted on 11/05/2004 9:02:46 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: Notwithstanding
This guy just confirms my belief that stupidity should be a crime.

Unfortunately for them, (and fortunately for us), most of the 'cultural elite' in the world think all Americans are in complete agreement with the garbage spewed by the old media.

23 posted on 11/05/2004 9:03:15 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a 'legal entity'!)
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To: Notwithstanding

The coastal elite all voted against bush, not for Kerry.


24 posted on 11/05/2004 9:04:06 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: weegee
"I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well ..."

You gotta read this one!

25 posted on 11/05/2004 9:04:30 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Pete
I think she is being sarcastic. She is pointing out that the reason she missed everything about the election is precisely because she was reading only the Liberal sources.

Judging by the whole article, I have to disagree. I don't think the writer really has the capacity for satire or irony. It's just a regurgitation of her prejudices. Later, she even asks how her anointed media outlets could possibly have "missed this big story" and let her down so badly.

26 posted on 11/05/2004 9:06:09 AM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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To: Pete
I think she is being sarcastic. She is pointing out that the reason she missed everything about the election is precisely because she was reading only the Liberal sources.

I believe you are correct. I think it will pass most New Yorker over, however. She needs to be a little less subtle. If she had referenced the blogosphere and Free Republic as another view, her sarcasm would have been clear.

27 posted on 11/05/2004 9:06:58 AM PST by marktwain
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To: BrigidZ

Fahrenheit 911 made $113 million in the US and $99 million overseas.

Passion of the Christ made $ 370 million in the US and $ 239 million overseas.


28 posted on 11/05/2004 9:08:08 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: Notwithstanding

"To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.

I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too.

Go figure."

Is this a parody?


29 posted on 11/05/2004 9:08:39 AM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: Izzy Dunne

He was using sarcasm, right? C'mon, that had to be a joke, he couldn't have actually believed this.


30 posted on 11/05/2004 9:11:03 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: ScottM1968

There's still hope. Bush did 8 points better in urban areas than he did in 2000. In fact, he did better in 49 states (Vermont was the exception) and with almost every demographic group.

The author mentions Wal-Mart republicans. When Wal-Mart ran out of rural areas, they started creeping into the cities.


31 posted on 11/05/2004 9:11:19 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: Notwithstanding

What they really can't beleive is that the majority of people do not agree with them!


32 posted on 11/05/2004 9:13:01 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Notwithstanding
"...I read the New York Times (NYT: news, chart, profile) and the New Yorker religiously. I watch CNN (TWX: news, chart, profile) and the networks' evening news programs as well as the gabfests on Sunday mornings, too..."

Well, DUH! That's exactly why you are so out of touch DUMBO!

While you were all engrossed in pop culture, the rest of us were working our butts off, and paying taxes, and studying history...and understanding our COnstitution. I suggest that you take the time to read our Constitution and study it. Then decide if it is worth preserving. If you can't see that it is then you are a very evil person.

33 posted on 11/05/2004 9:28:04 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

There's a chance he is being ironic? Here's to hoping...but it's a rare liberal who has that much sense of humor.


34 posted on 11/05/2004 10:03:00 AM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: Notwithstanding
This is exactly what I had to encounter with my family. I am a New Yorker and I was raised as a Democrat. I had a hard time trying to convince my family to vote for President Bush. Liberals are in their on little world and believe me they are not as educated as they make themselves out to be. If anything they are the dummies who voted for Kerry.
35 posted on 11/05/2004 10:09:03 AM PST by NJBushcountry
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To: Notwithstanding
"The Bush political team intuitively understood the tone of the U.S. voters much better than the media did. To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong."

Here, allow me to fix this. It should read:

"The U.S. voters intuitively understood Bush much better than the media did. To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong about the importance of character."

There, all better now.

36 posted on 11/05/2004 10:32:45 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (Cha! I am so not an aggressive driver! Call me pro-active.)
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To: Notwithstanding; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
The Bush political team intuitively understood the tone of the U.S. voters much better than the media did. To be honest, I still don't quite understand how certified media junkies like me could have been so wrong.

We have tuned out the MSM. Oh we may watch Dan Ratherbiased, Tom Brokjaw, Petah, and Sam Donaldson to see them spew and spin but we already know that we are hearing from Zogyists and being snowed.

To put it bluntly, the left believed their own B******T. When you cook the books on poll figures and ratings/circulation, be sure to keep a "real" copy in reserve to know how far you are off.

37 posted on 11/05/2004 11:46:45 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Titan Magroyne

That's great!


38 posted on 11/05/2004 11:47:33 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: ScottM1968; frog_jerk_2004; Question Liberal Authority

39 posted on 11/05/2004 11:53:03 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: weegee

Thankya. :o)


40 posted on 11/05/2004 5:32:41 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (Cha! I am so not an aggressive driver! Call me pro-active.)
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