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We Were Soldiers, TNT, Friday 9pm EST, Saturday 8pm EST, Sunday 8pm EST
TNT ^ | 11/05/04

Posted on 11/05/2004 5:39:27 PM PST by Libloather

We Were Soldiers (2002)
Mel Gibson, Greg Kinnear, Madeleine Stowe, Sam Elliott
Rating: TV-14-V , CC

Friday, November 5th @ 9pm(ET)


In a place soon to be known as The Valley of Death, in a small clearing called landing zone X-Ray, Lt. Colonel Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) and 400 young fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons, all troopers from an elite American combat division, were surrounded by 2,000 North Vietnamese soldiers. The ensuing battle was one of the most savage in U.S. history. We Were Soldiers Once...And Young is a tribute to the nobility of those men under fire, their common acts of uncommon valor, and their loyalty to and love for one another.

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I've never seen it...
1 posted on 11/05/2004 5:39:28 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Will tape it and watch it.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 5:41:35 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: Libloather; All

Excellent film...very accurate and well made. Kudos to Mel Gibson & ICON Productions.


3 posted on 11/05/2004 5:43:30 PM PST by afnamvet ( Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: Libloather

Get the DVD. You won't regret it. Have a box of tissues on standby. First movie that ever got to me.


4 posted on 11/05/2004 5:44:22 PM PST by Horatio Gates ('It is what it is' -W)
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To: april15Bendovr; Howlin; Liz; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim; sonsofliberty2000; B.Bumbleberry; ..

Weekend ping...


5 posted on 11/05/2004 5:45:18 PM PST by Libloather (SURPRISE! Effin' Kerry didn't pass the American Election Test...)
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To: Libloather

Watch for the closing credits! The music is "Mansions of the Lord" (hymn sung at Ronald Reagan's funeral).


6 posted on 11/05/2004 5:48:31 PM PST by tellw
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To: Libloather; shotokan

Thanks for the ping, I caught it in the theater, and I've been watching the teaser on TV. We will definitely have it on this weekend.

Shotokan has it right...have the tissues ready. There are scenes that will rip your heart out. They're balanced with some fantastic humor from Sergeant Major Plumley (Sam Elliot).


7 posted on 11/05/2004 5:49:55 PM PST by HiJinx (Support Our Troops ~ www.ProudPatriots.com)
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To: Libloather

I've seen it. Have it on DVD in fact. Very good movie.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 5:50:38 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!


9 posted on 11/05/2004 5:50:41 PM PST by afnamvet ( Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: Libloather

I own it on DVD. My father was in the 1/5 1st Cav. (Airmobile)...


10 posted on 11/05/2004 5:52:51 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("I get my own ammo, I have to pull the trigger myself, I have to wound myself. It's pretty amazing")
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To: Libloather

The critics can say what they will, but Mel Gibson has been associated with some movies that get to me- this is one of them. There are some FReepers who were actually at Ia Drang, and if you didn't realize what they went through for us then, this film will bring it home to you.

(BTW, I first saw this film while my son was home on leave... it was actually unsettling for a dad whose only kid was headed back to Iraq within two weeks. And maybe it was supposed to be.)


11 posted on 11/05/2004 5:53:21 PM PST by niteowl77 (Next order of business: CBS, Viacom, and the RICO statutes.)
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To: Libloather


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"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Movie Website

http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com







'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG'
Book Website

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

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12 posted on 11/05/2004 5:59:19 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Libloather

This movie is incredible.

It will be awesome watching this again knowing the results of our last election!


13 posted on 11/05/2004 6:05:28 PM PST by bear11
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

SALUTE


14 posted on 11/05/2004 6:13:41 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: Libloather

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"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Forum

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8


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15 posted on 11/05/2004 6:16:25 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Libloather

I saw it at the theatre with another Vet. I ain't ashamed to say I was crying as I left the show.

It is an understatement to say that Mel Gibson is a gifted and powerful filmmaker.

See it.


16 posted on 11/05/2004 6:17:59 PM PST by wizr (I spell right with a 'W'. 'W's been wright all along. God bless him.)
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To: rocksblues

WATCH IT!!!!!!!!

GREAT GIBSON MOVIE!!!!

In this movie he tries to make amends for what his father did.


17 posted on 11/05/2004 6:22:08 PM PST by PatriotCJC
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To: HiJinx

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SAM ELLIOTT Photo:

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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18 posted on 11/05/2004 6:22:42 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: edskid; wizr; ALOHA RONNIE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(BTW, I first saw this film while my son was home on leave... it was actually unsettling for a dad whose only kid was headed back to Iraq within two weeks. And maybe it was supposed to be.)

I truly hope your son is safe & sound.

I've waited to see it - because I was in Kentucky watching my kiddo graduate Army boot camp - the very same day the film was released...

19 posted on 11/05/2004 6:23:39 PM PST by Libloather (SURPRISE! Effin' Kerry didn't pass the American Election Test...)
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To: Libloather

I've been in some very nasty combat, but nothing, nothing like this. Great movie about a great Army unit.

Semper Fi


20 posted on 11/05/2004 6:24:12 PM PST by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: wizr

watching a true story about TRUE american heroes will make you very proud. SALUTE these valiant troopers.


21 posted on 11/05/2004 6:27:42 PM PST by kingattax
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To: bear11; risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Lexington Green; Boston; Clinton Is Scum; Carl/NewsMax

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NEVER FORGET


...This last Election also saw the 1st Vietnamese-American, VAN TRAN, ever elected to a State Legislature in U.S. History:



**Former Bob DORNAN-Aide Elected 1st Vietnamese-American in CAL State Legislature (TRAN)**

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/news/1270585/posts?page=1



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
VAN TRAN for State Assembly Campaign-2004, Little Saigon
http://www.VanTran68.com

Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965, Landing Zone Falcon

http://www.lzxray.com


NEVER FORGET

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22 posted on 11/05/2004 6:39:05 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: bear11
It will be awesome watching this again knowing the results of our last election!

The absolute number one fear I had and was depressed until the election results came in was that a lying traitor and coward like that scum Kerry who did what he did to the Viet Vets would be made CIC over our brave militray

I am relieved but still is a depressing thought that 48% of American voters were willing to do just that
23 posted on 11/05/2004 6:48:09 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Libloather
I truly hope your son is safe & sound.

Thank you- he completed his tour and returns to his regular Guard drills this month.

24 posted on 11/05/2004 6:50:26 PM PST by niteowl77 (Next order of business: CBS, Viacom, and the RICO statutes.)
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To: uncbob

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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320


...still..!!!


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25 posted on 11/05/2004 6:54:00 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Libloather
I've never seen it...

I'll NOT give out a "spoiler", but look for this:

the cryptic meaning of a sign in the airport near the end of the film...
26 posted on 11/05/2004 6:58:46 PM PST by VOA
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To: shotokan
First movie that ever got to me.

When the colonels wife and the other lady walked the telegrams around base housing... Man, it gets to you real fast.

27 posted on 11/05/2004 7:09:20 PM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: edskid

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NEVER FORGET


American Soldiers fighting...
for the Freedom of Others,
those that train them and...
those loved ones who wait...
for them to come home...
or not...
are...

......HOLY..!!!



MEL's -PASSION- was sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=39081

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28 posted on 11/05/2004 7:09:39 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: uncbob
I was with the 2nd Marine Air Wing on Tuesday and Wednesday at Camp LeJeune / MCAS New River this week. Nothing makes Marines nervous except the possibility of having a traitor elected as your CIC. There was a huge sigh of relief, pride and joy on Wednesday. Now they know they can do their jobs as trained and finish what they started. Regarding the 48%:
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29 posted on 11/05/2004 7:11:57 PM PST by bear11 (God saved the Republic!)
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To: cake_crumb

Love the deleted scene about Sergeant with the two Medals Of Honor.


30 posted on 11/05/2004 7:12:28 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant)
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To: uncbob

make that 47% of the electorate - with Idaho it is 52% - 47%.....every W point stabs him with pain.....

someday I hope we will see those papers.....


31 posted on 11/05/2004 7:17:26 PM PST by bitt (John Kerry: Betraying America Since 1971.)
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To: Libloather
Ending sucks. Ruins the whole movie. Read the book and skip the movie.
32 posted on 11/05/2004 7:22:27 PM PST by Timmy
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To: kAcknor

Yep, that was the same part of the movie that I just lost it. It doesn't matter how many times I watch it either. This is going on today too. We need these reminders from time to time or I suppose some do. Are we worthy of the sacrifices made on our behalf by military families and soldiers?


33 posted on 11/05/2004 7:23:13 PM PST by Horatio Gates ('It is what it is' -W)
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To: edskid

We saw this movie the night we before we sent our son off to basic....buy the DVD....


34 posted on 11/05/2004 7:26:29 PM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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To: chesty_puller
I've been in some very nasty combat

Thank you

35 posted on 11/05/2004 7:28:25 PM PST by Horatio Gates ('It is what it is' -W)
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To: Libloather

One of the very few movies I bought on DVD. Tissues are mandatory.


36 posted on 11/05/2004 7:30:08 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: All

Ranks high on my list of reality war movies.Others are Saving Private Ryan,The Longest Day,10 hour Hanks & Sielberg,"Brotherhood of War" and a German movie,"Stalingrad"
All the books were great.Col.Moore & Hollaway wrote "We Were Soldiers".You ain't lived until you have read the story of 501 Easy Co.from Brotherhood of War.


37 posted on 11/05/2004 7:51:51 PM PST by hubno (hub)
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To: shotokan
Are we worthy of the sacrifices made on our behalf by military families and soldiers?

Some of us are, some of us aren't, but that's OK.

In the end, each of us sacrifice for those we love. Be it the battlefield or what we do in everyday life. That's just the way it is, and should be.

38 posted on 11/05/2004 7:55:57 PM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: brewcrew
My brother-in-law was in the 1/7 1st Cav. (Airmobile) several years after the Idrang Valley, and they saw combat in the Ashau Valley which many consider every bit as tough as the former.

I was going through jump school at Benning in 63 prior to the 1st Cavs. deployment to Nam, when it was called the 11th Air Assault. A buddy of mine was at the field hospital where they brought in the wounded and dead.

39 posted on 11/05/2004 8:07:02 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: afnamvet
Err. It is a fine film, but no I would not call it accurate. Parts of it are. If you read the book you can get the real story. They Hollywooded the ending, falsified the tactics for camera purposes, etc.
40 posted on 11/05/2004 8:53:22 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Libloather

Just finished watching it, and how sweet to watch a movie about Vietnam heroes a few days after John Kerry sank into deep water.


41 posted on 11/05/2004 9:02:05 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Today the Donkeys need 10 billion gallons of bacitacrin and a whole lot of band-aids.)
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To: afnamvet; bear11; risk; Lexington Green

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...Mrs. JULIE MOORE passes on...

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3087

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42 posted on 11/06/2004 12:07:19 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Molly Pitcher; farmfriend; Chairman_December_19th_Society; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
..Mrs. JULIE MOORE passes on...
http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3087

Condolences bump.

43 posted on 11/06/2004 1:12:41 AM PST by risk
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To: risk; ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks risk! I'd noticed the commercials on TNT for the movie, so I taped it....

Right now, husband and I are working our way thru Band of Brothers...

44 posted on 11/06/2004 5:19:05 AM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: risk

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...and as Mrs. JULIE MOORE was lovingly being buried at Ft. Benning's Post Cemetary...

...one former NFL Defensive Linebacker...

...who was trained to fight for the Freedom of others at the U.S. Army Ranger School close by...

...lost his life for Freedom in Afghanistan.



PAT TILLMAN = A Hero for the Ages..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3169

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45 posted on 11/06/2004 1:44:48 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Leland names field after Pat Tillman
By Dennis Knight
Mercury News
Posted on Sat, Nov. 06, 2004

It was on the Leland football field where Pat Tillman earned his first headlines, developing the reputation of a fierce but fair competitor who never left the game.

Tillman's legacy grew as he went on to star at Arizona State University and in the NFL for the Arizona Cardinals.

After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Tillman walked away from a $3.6 million contract to serve in the elite Army Rangers. In April he died in action in Afghanistan.

In this era of high-paid, pampered athletes, Tillman's sense of duty set him apart and he became an American legend.

Friday night the Almaden Valley community made sure that Tillman's name will never be forgotten by retiring his No. 42 jersey and naming the school's new facilities -- complete with a FieldTurf artificial surface -- Pat Tillman Stadium.

Former 49er Ronnie Lott was the master of ceremonies, and a group of Tillman's teammates from Leland's 1993 Central Coast Section Division I championship team were on hand to remember their friend and teammate.

Portable lights were brought in for Leland's only night game of the season. U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren of San Jose spoke to the packed Leland bleachers.

``Pat gave up the passion for his sport for something much more important, the passion for his country,'' Lofgren said.

``Now a generation of young people will learn from him that you can't choose your time or the challenges you will face in life, but you can decide how to meet those challenges.''

Tillman's former coach at Leland, Terry Hardtke, talked about the impact Tillman had on his teammates during the 1993 championship year. Tillman scored 31 of the team's 68 touchdowns. On defense he had 110 tackles, 10 sacks and three interceptions.

``No one has ever compiled stats like that in CCS history,'' Hardtke said.

``But when Pat was asked about it after the championship game, he deflected the praise and said, `All the credit should go to the great players on the Leland team.' That's tells you all you need to know about Pat -- he was a coach's dream.''

The last speaker of the night was Tillman's father, Pat Tillman Sr.

Tillman Sr. joked that he'll miss the old muddy Leland field, but said it was a true honor to have the field named after his son.

``Terry forgot to say what a handsome man Pat was,'' Tillman Sr. said with a smile.

``And he could bring a lot to the table when you had a conversation with him. It will be nice to sit and watch the kids develop as players on the field. The character they develop there will help them in other aspects of their life.''

Paul Yllana, a teammate of Tillman's on the 1993 team and now a vice principal at Leland, said the ceremony meant a lot to the current and future residents of Almaden.

``Ten, 20 and 30 years from now when kids ask who Pat Tillman was, we can teach those students the lessons Pat taught us,'' Yllana said.

``We can tell them about what Pat believed and what he was able to accomplish in his life.''

46 posted on 11/06/2004 2:01:20 PM PST by Libloather (SURPRISE! Effin' Kerry failed the American Election Test...)
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To: Libloather
Watch it! Then buy it.

The battle in the Ia Drang valley has a couple of names; LZ-X RAY or the one I knew years ago, the "Lost Platoon".

47 posted on 11/06/2004 2:08:32 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Libloather


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NEVER FORGET


Mrs. JULIE MOORE -&- PAT TILLMAN =

Selfless American Heroes for the Ages


NEVER FORGET

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48 posted on 11/06/2004 5:03:05 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Libloather

Watch it. It is outstanding and based on the truth. Our Guys did the JOB in Viet Nam. I'm not a combat veteran but I am a veteran and I hold the Guys that this story is about to be my Big brothers. These guys did the JOB and the people that say they did not can go to #$%%. HHHHOOOOORRRRAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!


49 posted on 11/06/2004 5:32:57 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Libloather

BUMP


50 posted on 11/06/2004 5:37:19 PM PST by Dante3
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