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Like clinging chads, Kerry faithful hang on [They are in desperate need of a kill-shot!]
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | Saturday, November 06, 2004 | Scott Hiaasen

Posted on 11/06/2004 6:08:09 AM PST by johnny7

But officials don't expect big changes in tally

John Kerry won Ohio - you realize that, don't you? The exit polls were right. Kerry just conceded too quickly; his victory can be found in all those uncounted ballots. And his concession speech was merely customary, you know. And how do you explain those extra 3,900 Bush votes that showed up in a Gahanna polling precinct? You don't really think that was some innocent mistake, do you?

Uh, OK - but hold on a minute. Kerry did abandon his bid for the White House. And state elections officials are confident that voting totals will not dramatically change. Even so, some of Kerry's most ardent supporters stubbornly refuse to give in. These faithful followers can be found on talk radio and the Internet, parsing precinct data from Franklin County, mulling the minutiae of Ohio election law and plotting an effort to recount all the ballots in the state. And the confusing fallout from Election Day has provided a sliver of credibility to theories that more Kerry votes will be found among the provisional ballots, or that computer errors inflated Bush's 136,000-vote lead. Remember, the vote totals in the Ohio presidential race are unofficial, and they most certainly will change.

For one thing, local election boards must review about 155,000 provisional ballots in the next week. The boards must ensure the voters who cast them were registered and in the correct precinct. Two Democrats and two Republicans make up every board. State and local election officials do plan to count the legitimate provisional votes, easing the fears of some who thought these ballots would not be counted after Kerry conceded. In addition, thousands of ballots from voters overseas must also be counted. The deadline for them to be received by election officials is Nov. 12. Errors may also have infected the unofficial results. Alert Web surfers have already helped discover a computer glitch in Franklin County's election results that gave Bush an extra 3,893 votes in Gahanna. Mistakes were also found in the citywide vote totals in Cuyahoga County.

"You always expect the unofficial count to vary slightly," said Carlo LoParo, a spokesman for the secretary of state. "We haven't had any other reports of any other anomalies." It is in these anomalies that Kerry supporters find hope. One Web site includes a form letter for visitors to message Denny White, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party, and urge him to request a statewide recount of the ballots. The hope is that additional votes could be found among some 93,000 ballots that recorded no vote for president the so-called "spoiled" ballots. Historically, about half of these votes are "overvotes," or double-votes in the presidential race that can't be counted. The others are "undervotes," reflecting voters who declined to vote for president, and those who didn't push through the ballot card hard enough so it could be read by the counting machines. White said he received about 200 messages about the recount campaign on Friday. "Let's count them first before we do a recount," White said. "There's a lot of misinformation out there." Election boards can't even begin to officially canvass the votes until Nov. 13, when the deadline for overseas votes passes. Then election workers must audit every ballot in every precinct and recount all the votes to make sure things add up. Then the counties certify their results, and Secretary of State Ken Blackwell certifies the state totals. Blackwell is expected to certify the results on Dec. 1.

Even if a candidate wanted a recount, it can't happen until after the certified totals are completed. "People just need to be patient and calm down," White said.

shiaasen@plaind.com, 216-999-4927


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These 'people' don't give a rats a$$ who won on Wednesday... they just don't care about the majority... they actually HATE democracy. They're not here to debate... they're here to force through their socialist agenda and the rest of us should just quitely 'go-to-hell'!

There ain't no 'workin with this elite, socialist trash... they want bare-knuckle boxing and by God we 'gotta give it to 'em!

1 posted on 11/06/2004 6:08:10 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7

Pity the fools...and then watch your back.


2 posted on 11/06/2004 6:10:50 AM PST by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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"...they want bare-knuckle boxing and by God we 'gotta give it to 'em!"

Amen, a knock-down drag out, like that condescending twerp Jane Smiley referenced.


3 posted on 11/06/2004 6:15:49 AM PST by jocon307 (Maintain the mandate!)
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To: johnny7
"They are in desperate need of a kill-shot!"

It was delivered on Tuesday.

Some times it takes a while for the dead to fall. ;)

4 posted on 11/06/2004 6:16:34 AM PST by G.Mason (Fallujah is now surrounded by Marines who say they are “Locked. cocked and ready to rock”)
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To: johnny7

Ye gods. Mr. Ashcroft, get busy. Start by investigating Democrat vote fraud in Milwaukee and Philadelphia. Those two larcenies were worth upwards of 30 EV, as I recall.


5 posted on 11/06/2004 6:16:50 AM PST by T'wit (The more intelligent candidate won.)
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To: G.Mason

just look at that guy asir rufat


6 posted on 11/06/2004 6:17:47 AM PST by al baby (she stuned my little beeber)
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To: johnny7
Mos of these people (as well as journalists) lack basic math skills, so they are unable to figure out why the 135,000 vote lead cannot be surmounted by the provisionals and some "spoiled ballots". The provisonals and the spoiled ballots will break in about the same proportion as the votes already tallied plus most of these votes are invalid anyhow. But if you can't understand how ratios work its confusing.
This is why they call them DUummies.
7 posted on 11/06/2004 6:17:54 AM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: G.Mason

They should have some more kool aid.


8 posted on 11/06/2004 6:17:57 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: T'wit

They just can't give it up.
We feel their pain, but America is better off because they are in pain.


9 posted on 11/06/2004 6:20:45 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry proved once agin that you can't beat SOMEBODY with NOBODY.)
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These people are in total denial of reality...from the Get Go. Which means they totally reject everything. Forgive and forget is a concept that cannot even be recieved on any of their sensing mechanisms. It might be wise to remember the intensity of their cruelty and utter inhumanity...they only look like ordinary people. These are the dreaded "Enemy Within"...ten times more lethal and horrible than their mentors, the World Terrorists. Nothing is over. The WAR is still full on. Whatever you do,don't take my word for it. Prove it for yourself.


10 posted on 11/06/2004 6:21:23 AM PST by CBart95
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Nobody won anything on Wednesday. That doesn't happen until the totals are certified and then the electoral college votes. And winning the majority - even 51% - of the vote doesn't mean anything unless there are 270 electoral votes to go with it. The loony-lefties would like nothing better than to see us wind up holding the majority of votes and their guy having the 270 electoral college votes, so they are not going to stop until the election officials certify the results. All we can do is cross our fingers and hope like hell that after the final total shifts up and down when the vote is certified our guy is still in front.


11 posted on 11/06/2004 6:23:01 AM PST by RtWngr
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.......Klingons circling around Uranus?


12 posted on 11/06/2004 6:23:29 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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These people are in total denial of reality...from the Get Go. Which means they totally reject everything. Forgive and forget is a concept that cannot even be recieved on any of their sensing mechanisms. It might be wise to remember the intensity of their cruelty and utter inhumanity...they only look like ordinary people. These are the dreaded "Enemy Within"...ten times more lethal and horrible than their mentors, the World Terrorists. Nothing is over. The WAR is still full on. Whatever you do,don't take my word for it. Prove it for yourself.


13 posted on 11/06/2004 6:23:45 AM PST by CBart95
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To: johnny7
another poster (don't recall who it was) said it best the other day: "It's like watching a turtle on its back."
14 posted on 11/06/2004 6:24:08 AM PST by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: al baby
"just look at that guy asir rufat"

Yes_sir_your_a_fart is a perfect example.

Others would be Jimmy "I'm a Peanut" Carter, Dan Rather, David "Karl Rove made the Ossama Tape" Brinkley and the entire line up of the "Nine Dwarves" that ran for president under the Dimocrat Party lable. ;)

15 posted on 11/06/2004 6:28:50 AM PST by G.Mason (Fallujah is now surrounded by Marines who say they are “Locked. cocked and ready to rock”)
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To: johnny7

It's 'cause all us hicks that voted for Bush just don't "get it."


16 posted on 11/06/2004 6:34:12 AM PST by mykroar ("Pearl Harbor" sucked . . . .and I miss you.//Freedom costs a buck-oh-five.)
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Don't have to convince me dude.

I saw it in the face of that cross-eyed-bastard who was counting/punching 'chads' down in FL during election 2000! 'Talkin-time has come and gone.

Socialists in Germany did the same thing during the years just before Hitler's take-over. Their gangs cruised the streets and beer-halls looking for trouble... and they got it in spades!

17 posted on 11/06/2004 6:35:53 AM PST by johnny7 (“We blowed 'em up real good!” -John Candy & Joe Flaherty, SCTV)
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On Wednesday, I took pleasure in seeing the left melt down.

Today, I want to give them a couple weeks slack.

If your child died in a fiery car wreck, you would go through several stages of emotion before life got back to normal. First, disbelief ... then helplessness ... finally giving way to anger.

We won this election because of our Christian values. Let's pity them and comfort them for a time. Being antagonistic will only reinforce their misplaced feelings of hatred.

You and I will be fine, but that poor damn dog in his house won't know what's happening when it gets kicked.


18 posted on 11/06/2004 6:37:12 AM PST by CruisinAround
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Has anybody reminded them that the Bush family will have been elected to the Whitehouse from the American people for 12 Years, no wonder that cant take it. Thank you President Bush. what a record.
19 posted on 11/06/2004 6:45:42 AM PST by lillybet
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To: CBart95
Forgive and forget is a concept that cannot even be received on any of their sensing mechanisms. It might be wise to remember the intensity of their cruelty and utter inhumanity...

This is b/c in their eyes they (a.k.a."the Anointed") are doing, and are crusaders for, the work of their Lord (a.k.a.Socialism). To them there is no loyal opposition. No mistaken notion. No agreeing to disagree. It is good v. evil. Period. It is light v. dark. It's shepherds trying to guide the flock v. the wolves that seek to prey on the innocent lambs (a.k.a the Great Unwashed -- IOW, us).

And if this sounds an awful lot like Islamofascism, well, if the shoe fits...

20 posted on 11/06/2004 6:46:03 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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