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The UN calls it anarchy....(Genocide)
Yahoo News ^ | Nov 5 04 | EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/06/2004 9:27:16 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb

UNITED NATIONS - Warning that Darfur is descending into anarchy, the top U.N. envoy to Sudan urged the Security Council Thursday to quickly deploy African troops to deter violence and speed up peace talks to prevent warlords from taking control of the vast western region.

Jan Pronk repeatedly stressed the need to move swiftly, saying the 20-month conflict in Darfur is changing, with the government not in control of its own forces and a leadership crisis within rebel movements.

He accused the government and especially the rebels of violating an April cease-fire agreement and seeking more territory in Darfur, which is about the size of France.

Jan Pronk repeatedly stressed the need to move swiftly, saying the 20-month conflict in Darfur is changing, with the government not in control of its own forces and a leadership crisis within rebel movements.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: dafurun
First, Mr. Pronk says that Sudan is not control of it's military forces. Then Plonk accuses government and especially rebels of violations of the cease-fire.... Uh huh, sounds like UN doublespeak. And a failure of the Global Test
1 posted on 11/06/2004 9:27:17 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

Performances like this should be reason enough to distrust the UN to do what is right.

Apparently the "global test" is not reached by these horrible events.

The military interventions in the balkans were NOT the UN; again the "global test" wasn't reached.


2 posted on 11/06/2004 9:37:07 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

well, at least they aren't calling it a petty squabble anymore... /sarcasm


3 posted on 11/06/2004 9:40:12 PM PST by GeronL (Congratulations Bush on your re-election VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
I guess were going to be expected to do something about it the Un-UNITED NATIONS wont ?

I don't mind so much the US helping nations become free of dictators and despots but what i do hate is the United nations crying whenever something like this happens !

See there's no profit to be made so they cry until someone pays for it in cash or with lives
4 posted on 11/06/2004 10:06:58 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Want to know why I don't vote Democrat?" http://www.museumofleftwinglunacy.com)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

The UN is an irrelevant "has been" entity. The UN is like Gary Coleman on a global scale.


5 posted on 11/06/2004 10:34:30 PM PST by Jaysun
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
I hereby retract my previous suggestion that disgruntled Democrats who want to emigrate from the United States consider going to Sudan.

Obviously, they would side with the warlords, and things would become even worse for the people of Darfur.

6 posted on 11/06/2004 10:44:12 PM PST by Savage Beast (The internet is the newspaper of record.)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

The Useless Nation is at it again. What is going on in Sudan is genocide. Why can't they see it??????????????????


7 posted on 11/06/2004 10:56:09 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

UN wants in? Must be oil there as there are plenty of starving war torn african states they ignore.


8 posted on 11/06/2004 11:33:01 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
Selected entries from the UN's own timeline on Darfur :

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2 August – Returning from a weeklong visit to Darfur , Francis Deng, Secretary-General's Representative on IDPs, says it is beset by persistent insecurity and numerous human rights violations. He calls for a Sudanese identity based on inclusiveness and not race, culture or religion.

3 August – Mr. Annan says Khartoum is showing signs it wants to cooperate with the Security Council's resolution.

4 August – The UN will maintain the pressure on Khartoum to meet its commitments to protect IDPs and disarm the Janjaweed until it does so, Mr. Annan tells Security Council during briefing. The number of IDPs now estimated to be at least 1.2 million.

5 August – Mr. Pronk and Sudanese Foreign Minister Mustafa Osman Ismail sign agreement committing Khartoum to take detailed steps in the next 30 days to disarm the Janjaweed and improve security for the IDPs. Mr. Annan later welcomes the agreement.

20 August – Mr. Pronk arrives in Darfur to for three-day mission that includes visiting camps (including Kalma) and talking to local officials and humanitarian workers.

25 August – Declaring its operations in Sudan are “grossly under-funded,” UN humanitarian agencies say they have received only $288 million of the $722 million it needs.

26 August – Mr. Pronk begins final visit to Darfur before the lapsing of the Security Council deadline for Khartoum to show it is making good on its pledges to disarm the Janjaweed and restore security.

30 August – Darfur 's inhabitants are traumatized and humiliated and remain at risk of being raped, assaulted or forced to return to their homes, the Director of the UN's Internal Displacement Division Dennis McNamara, tells press conference in Nairobi .

2 September – Mr. Pronk tells Security Council that Khartoum has not disarmed the Janjaweed nor stopped their attacks against civilians. He called for the AU mission to be expanded in size and mandate so that IDPs are better protected. But he adds that Khartoum deserves some praise for removing obstacles to humanitarian access and for deploying extra police. In Abuja , Nigeria , where AU-mediated talks are taking place, Khartoum and the rebels agree to draft protocol on relieving humanitarian situation.

3 September – In his latest report to the Council, Mr. Annan says the international presence in Darfur must be enlarged as soon as possible because the “vast majority of militias” have not yet been disarmed. The report concludes a “scorched-earth policy” by the Janjaweed is responsible for most of the violence .

9 September – Security Council holds consultations on Darfur and the United States circulates a draft resolution among Council members. The number of Sudanese refugees in Chad is now rising beyond 200,000. First UN food aid convoy to cross Sahara Desert from Libya reaches its destination in eastern Chad.

15 September – UN agencies probe reports of fresh wave of displacements: as many as 4,000 people are on the move in North Darfur and another 5,000 people have arrived at a town in South Darfur in the past week.

16 September – Mr. Annan announces he is dispatching High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour and Special Adviser on the Prevention of Genocide Juan Méndez to Darfur to assess the situation and recommend what can be done now to protect civilians. He tells reporters he has also told the Security Council's members that he wants a proposed commission of inquiry into whether genocide has occurred to proceed. As the peace talks in Abuja , Nigeria , reach a stalemate, Mr. Pronk holds talks with the chairman of the AU's ceasefire commission in Darfur .

18 September – Security Council adopts resolution, 11-0 with Algeria , China , Pakistan and the Russian Federation abstaining, that says it will consider more measures, including sanctions, if Khartoum does not comply with earlier resolutions or with plans to expand the AU mission. The resolution also requests that Mr. Annan quickly set up a genocide inquiry.

20 September – Mrs. Arbour and Mr. Méndez begin weeklong mission to Darfur , visiting IDP camps and talking to AU monitors. A day later, they say a sense of fear pervades the camps and residents remain sceptical that the authorities can or will protect them.

22 September – UN agencies report that the number of IDPs has swelled to 1.45 million and is still rising. Mr. Pronk visits Sudan 's neighbours Eritrea and Ethiopia to discuss the situation in Darfur .

24 September – Mr. Annan tells Security Council meeting that the “terrible violence” in Darfur means the crisis there is a global issue, and “not simply an African problem.” Nigerian President and AU Chairman Olusegun Obasanjo says the AU force needs greater international funding and logistical support if it is to expand to a size of about 3,000 troops and take on new responsibilities. Mrs. Arbour and Mr. Méndez complete mission to Darfur .

4 October – Mr. Annan proposes four ways in which the UN can assist the AU to expand its mission, including by setting up a Darfur regional office of the UN Advance Mission in Sudan (UNAMIS).

5 October – Mr. Pronk tells Security Council that Khartoum made no progress last month in disarming the Janjaweed, stopping their attacks or prosecuting those responsible for the worst atrocities. Banditry is on the rise and both sides have frequently breached the ceasefire. In his regular report to the Council, Mr. Annan says the AU mission should have the power to protect IDPs and refugees, monitor the local police and disarm the fighters, including the Janjaweed. Mr. Pronk tells reporters he is pressing the AU to expand the mission's size as soon as it can. He also says a solution to the long-running civil war in southern Sudan could serve as a model for the Darfur conflict.

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It's sad, really. They spend days and weeks and months (and so much money) sending delegations and issuing findings and doing absolutely nothing of real value on the ground. They are told over and over and over that there is a serious problem and they do nothing.

That 20 September entry is telling: a sense of fear pervades the camps and residents remain sceptical that the authorities can or will protect them. They can't and they won't.

9 posted on 11/06/2004 11:39:46 PM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: macbee
Special Adviser on the Prevention of Genocide

Good grief. V's wife.

10 posted on 11/07/2004 4:05:04 AM PST by ventana
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To: Jaysun

I LOVE IT - EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!

The UN is an irrelevant "has been" entity. The UN is like Gary Coleman on a global scale.


11 posted on 11/07/2004 5:29:10 AM PST by buffyt (God Bless Bush & Cheney and God Bless America!!!!! 4 more years!!!!!)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
Let's just let the UN handle this.

We're a bit busy since we can't get any UN help with the War on Terror!

12 posted on 11/07/2004 5:30:51 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

The UN can't use the word genocide because to do so would obligate them to take decisive action under their Charter. Since that's the last thing they want to do, Sudan being a member in very good standing, they talk around the issue while thousands die and Kofi attends cocktail parties.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 5:32:24 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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They avoid the phrase 'militant Islam' as well. No mention at all that these are purges of Christians and other non-Muslims by Muslims. By the time the UN acts their won't be many left to save.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 6:00:07 AM PST by TigersEye (Free speech! It's not just for Democrats anymore!)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
Warning that Darfur is descending into anarchy, the top U.N. envoy to Sudan, blah, blah, blah.

Oh-oh. Anarchy? This almost sounds serious.

I guess its time for the U.N. to take decisive action and issue a RESOLUTION decreeing that 'Anarchy' is bad.

And if that doesn't work, maybe Coffee Anal can write a terse letter. That would surely stop the... ah .... 'anarchy'.

~~U.N. mocking OFF~~

15 posted on 11/07/2004 6:26:24 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Jaysun
The UN is an irrelevant "has been" entity

IF you truly believe this then you haven't been paying attention.

What you see happening in the UN security council is minuscule compared to the influence the UN has on life here in America. Yes, you don't even know it, but a liberty destroying political ideology developed by the UN that ultimately puts the UN in place as the global government for the world is underway. It is called sustainable development and it is in every neighborhood, every federal agency, nearly all state and local governments. The United States subserviently submits reports to the UN that indicates our compliance with the UNs framework on sustainable development. The USDA is giving $600,000 away this year to groups that help promote sustainable development. Sustainable development is a UN plan that harms US sovereignty and makes the US subservient to the 300 some odd socialist/communist/dictator led countries that are the member states. The enemy is deep within our territory.
17 posted on 11/07/2004 7:27:36 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
IF you truly believe this then you haven't been paying attention.
What you see happening in the UN security council is minuscule compared to the influence the UN has on life here in America. Yes, you don't even know it, but a liberty destroying political ideology developed by the UN that ultimately puts the UN in place as the global government for the world is underway. It is called sustainable development and it is in every neighborhood, every federal agency, nearly all state and local governments. The United States subserviently submits reports to the UN that indicates our compliance with the UNs framework on sustainable development. The USDA is giving $600,000 away this year to groups that help promote sustainable development. Sustainable development is a UN plan that harms US sovereignty and makes the US subservient to the 300 some odd socialist/communist/dictator led countries that are the member states. The enemy is deep within our territory.


I'm well aware of what you've mentioned, and it sickens me. My comment was directed towards their competence and usefulness rather than their influence.
18 posted on 11/07/2004 5:19:56 PM PST by Jaysun (How many votes did that HUGE A$$ Medicare bill buy us?)
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