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Lawrence O'Donnell calls Red states"welfare" states; urges Blue states to secede

Posted on 11/07/2004 2:17:10 PM PST by bushisdamanin04

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To: rodeo-mamma

Well, unfortunately, there's no shortage of places to send them. But their arrival could not fail but to make matters worse for any country they inhabit.


101 posted on 11/07/2004 3:41:59 PM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free. ")
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To: Bommer

Ban the red states - let the poor ba%^&#@$ starve to death in the cold dark.


102 posted on 11/07/2004 3:48:56 PM PST by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: bushisdamanin04
He further urged the Blue states to secede from the Red states.

What would Tecumseh think? LOL

103 posted on 11/07/2004 3:51:55 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: fallujah-nuker

Oops, "Freedom" County. Yes, Freemont is the home of the Lenin statue. Talk about your Freudian slips! Did you see what King County (read: liberal Seattle) did recently to rural King County regarding land usage? I just love the ultra liberal city people telling the people who live in parts of the county they have never seen what they can and can’t do with their property. Mike Holmgren (Mercer Island) recently commented about having to remove a tree on his property and the legal requirement that he plant two trees to replace it. I actually like trees, but it makes me want to go out and start chopping!


104 posted on 11/07/2004 4:07:42 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: bushisdamanin04
Larry O is off his rocker! It is the Blue states that are sucking the life out of us in cowboyland! Look what they're doing:

1. Siphoning out our oil and pumping it to the Northeastern blue states

2. Building powerplants in AZ (Red State) to send power to California (Blue State)*.

3. Gobbling up all of the grain we grow in the heartland, then screwing with the markets to shaft the farmers. They used to whack them with the death tax after that, too!

4. Mining out our coal and using it (while complaining about using it at the same time, of course).

5. Hacking down our trees to build their houses (naturally, again, while accusing us of senseless destruction of "their" environment).

6. Eating up all of our livestock, then suing the BLM to screw the ranchers out of the land they've been using for generations.

7. Buying out all of our banks to bolster their own faltering bottom lines.

8. Pumping out all of our natural gas and burning it up. Then they petition to stop construction of pipelines that would let us burn our own fuel!

After all this, these jerks have the balls to make fun of us on top of that! They have the nerve to suggest we are sapping their resources. Shucks, folks, I'm starting to turn red and sputter. Nobody calls the coasts the Heartland, that's for sure.

*Naturally, I have no problem whatsoever with Arizona's power being consumed to support the red counties in California, home to hard-working farmers and, of course, FR.
105 posted on 11/07/2004 4:13:46 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy (I was there when we flushed the Johns in ought-four. 'Twas a wonderful sight.)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

And taking electricty from Red counties in Washington and sending it to Blue counties in California. Hey, Diane and Babs, make your own!


106 posted on 11/07/2004 4:20:47 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: SAJ
Dream on.

It's not a dream. In fact, were it to happen, it would be a nightmare. I still think the Rats are desparate enough to try it.

107 posted on 11/07/2004 4:24:59 PM PST by GoBucks2002
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To: GoBucks2002

As a Texan I say let them go....who gives a rat's behind. We have everything we need in Texas and we were once a Republic. I think we could do quite well without the likes of those idiots..


108 posted on 11/07/2004 4:28:15 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Thanks America)
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To: bushisdamanin04

McLaughlin is running a half-way house for liberal losers as long as he keeps O'Donnell and Clift on the show - neither one can put together a coherent thought that hasn't been provided in a DNC handout! Eleanor looks and sounds more and more like the WIcked Witch of the West every time I check in on the show!


109 posted on 11/07/2004 4:33:25 PM PST by NHResident
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To: NHResident

I usually don't watch the show. I used to be a reular viewer, but Clift turned me off the show. I was channel-surfing this morning and came across the show on PBS (I think it used to be on CNN when I was a regular viewer). When I saw O'Donnell, I had to stay tuned in hopes that he would have another nationally televised breakdown.


110 posted on 11/07/2004 4:38:30 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: Tribemike

O'Donnell is a mentally unbalanced and turns these shows into freak shows.


111 posted on 11/07/2004 4:40:02 PM PST by Dante3
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To: bushisdamanin04

Anyone who talks seriously about secession in the year 2004 and thinks the idea has any viability is the epitome of a kook.


112 posted on 11/07/2004 4:41:51 PM PST by spinestein ("We have to go by our own rules, we'd rather be last than be wrong" by Dan Rather)
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To: bushisdamanin04
On the McLaughlin Group this weekend, Lawrence O’Donnell actually stated that the Red states were “welfare” and that the Blue states paid for the Red states...not true, of course, since the blue states are the heavily urbanized areas full of crime (lots of tax money for police), poverty (lots of tax money for free health care) and illegitimacy (lots of tax money for welfare) - but suppose it were true - I thought lefties like O'Donnell were all in favor of redistributing the wealth - taking from the rich and giving to those who didn't have - he is seriously unhinged.......
113 posted on 11/07/2004 4:43:12 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: bushisdamanin04
Oh my word!!!!

I am just getting caught up in the general euphoria of the democrats in depression and I read this headline! I about died!

I say we do secede!! No more 100% Angus beef to serve your guests!!! No more BREAD to serve your family!! Bacon? Nope...we'll keep that for ourselve as well! Good lord these people need to get a life!

114 posted on 11/07/2004 4:43:51 PM PST by misharu
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To: bushisdamanin04

Larry, let me help you learn how to spell "unintended consequences" because you are going to be hearing that phrase a lot if you get your way on this.


115 posted on 11/07/2004 4:44:45 PM PST by Let's Roll (For a guy who shirked his own job, Kerry sure was eager to tell others how to do theirs ...)
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To: bushisdamanin04

Mr. O'Donnell has officially lost his mind. It sounds like he and other liberals want to replay the Civil War. What a complete and utter moron this guy is! The Democrats ought to lick their wounds and figure out how to appeal to the all of the "rednecks and welfare cheats" in the red states, and maybe they can win the presidency again. Don't bet on it. The libs still think it was the messenger who failed (Kerry), and not the message (liberalism). These people won't see the White House for a very long time if they keep this up.


116 posted on 11/07/2004 4:45:11 PM PST by midftfan
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To: bushisdamanin04

How about the blue counties secede, most would automatically go bankrupt. Kind of like Quebec would if they seceded. Bring it !!!


117 posted on 11/07/2004 4:47:00 PM PST by muslims=borg (Democrats are the new Khymer Rouge)
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To: bushisdamanin04

needs a rest......maybe meds...go away (for a long time)


118 posted on 11/07/2004 4:49:20 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: bushisdamanin04
I am sure that we could find a place for them to go. Let's see 55 million people minus of course the 10 or so million that voted more than once.

How about "to the Moon Alice" Thanks to Ralph Cramden!

119 posted on 11/07/2004 4:50:00 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: bushisdamanin04
"welfare"

All these people think of are entitlements.

120 posted on 11/07/2004 5:19:19 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: SE Mom
Hello,

You are exactly right, what we are seeing and hearing is pure hatred, unmasked. Rush has said repeatedly over time that the left is funny when out of power. I disagree. This is not funny. For God sake, a Kerry supporter drove himself to New York, went to Ground Zero and blew his head off. These people are sick and demented. Stay safe everyone...

Glad to be here, among good friends, MOgirl
121 posted on 11/07/2004 6:32:10 PM PST by MOgirl (My tag line is gone, how weird...)
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To: bushisdamanin04

Little Loathsome Larry has previously proved himself a babbling nitwit -- this just re-confirms that he keeps his head in that part of the anatomy where the sun don't shine.... and he is a Haaaaahvahd graduate! Clearly he knows better than anyone else.


122 posted on 11/07/2004 6:35:01 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: bushisdamanin04

Larry's really begging to get creamed isn't he?


123 posted on 11/07/2004 6:36:50 PM PST by Bullish
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To: bushisdamanin04

I wish all the lefty liberals would just stop talking already and go.


124 posted on 11/07/2004 6:40:34 PM PST by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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To: Modernman

"The red states receive more in federal tax money than they pay into the treasury."

We would have to see some detailed figures and breakdowns to judge what this means (if it is true). That verb 'receive' obscures much, even if this statement might be true in terms of the dollars of federal receipts and expenditures (I don't know that it is -- do you have the numbers?). Granting for the sake of argument that it may be true, I would wager (if I were a betting man) that a very disproportionate percentage of the nation's military expenditures and also the members of our armed forces are concentrated in the 'red' states (unless CA's bases offset the south and southwest). I'd bet a disproportionate share of the nation's defense is borne by soldiers, Marines, sailors, and airmen who grew up in 'red' states (that does not in any way denigrate all who serve and came from 'blue' states, but I suspect they respresent a smaller % of their states' populations).


125 posted on 11/07/2004 6:46:45 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: MOgirl

The only drawback to the internet -- it lets seriously demented people communicate with each other......


126 posted on 11/07/2004 6:49:37 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: bushisdamanin04

ROTFLMAO! Yeah, I know all those hard working, thrifty, Liberal families are sick and tired of having to pay high taxes to support the Republican welfare & food stamp class.

What an idiot O'Dummell is!


127 posted on 11/07/2004 6:54:03 PM PST by puroresu
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Hello,

Perhaps this level of insanity has happened before, but we did not know about it. Seriously, that would make me feel better about what we have watched over the last 5 days. Of course, the net allows for communication between all, and of all different stripes. But this is really disturbing, IMHO.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
128 posted on 11/07/2004 7:14:27 PM PST by MOgirl (My tag line is gone, how weird...)
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To: sittnick
If they measured welfare handouts per square mile in blue and red states the blue states would be off the charts.Even in liberal New York the City is surrounded by a sea of red and California isn't much different.Larry O is and Ass-ho.
129 posted on 11/07/2004 7:14:44 PM PST by rdcorso (Did I mention I was in Vietnam where I lost my backbone? Spineless John)
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To: AirForceMom

My parents live outside of Buffalo, too -- in Olean. They are sick and tired of footing the bill for the loser welfare ne'er-do-wells in NY City. If the people in the blue cities would migrate northward into Canada that would be a start in saving America. To repear Sean Hannity's over-told joke: Q. What do you call 100 liberals moving to Canada? A. A good start.


130 posted on 11/07/2004 7:30:03 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Enchante
Don't forget that the trend with each tax cut is that the rich end up paying a bigger percentage of the overall income tax pie each time. Since the rich (Dem and GOP) tend to be concentrated in the blue big cities, this means that the blue states end up "contributing" a lot of income tax revenue. Even conservative rich people like Mel Gibson and Rush Limbaugh live in the blue areas.

Plus, more major corporations are based in the blue cities, so corporate income tax revenue is higher from the blue states. Finally, traditional welfare spending has taken a hit with the success of the various welfare reforms while agricultural subsidies have held relatively strong. Today's welfare is Earned Income Credit -- that's something you can get while working so there's plenty of it in both red and blue areas.

131 posted on 11/07/2004 8:16:22 PM PST by LenS
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To: bushisdamanin04

"let them eat cake", or frickin' TWINKIES like perpetual left-wing maggot and irrelevant FAT-ASS - Michael Moore!


132 posted on 11/08/2004 4:51:45 PM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: bushisdamanin04
Lawrence O’Donnell actually stated that the Red states were “welfare” and that the Blue states paid for the Red states. He further urged the Blue states to secede from the Red states.

Great idea Lawrence, glad that you brought it up. Instead partitioning geographically, how about if everyone on "welfare" (that is receiving Government largesse)secedes from the Union. They can run their own Government however they want. Those not needing government assistance can have their government. What say you Lawrence?

133 posted on 11/08/2004 4:58:34 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: bushisdamanin04

O'D has royally lost it.


134 posted on 11/08/2004 4:59:25 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Tribemike

Let's go for the exit plan on a county-by-county basis.... Hello Canada...


135 posted on 11/08/2004 5:02:04 PM PST by pointsal
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To: HitmanNY
Literally so. His tirades are scary. Please, liberals, keep putting this guy out there as a face of your party!
136 posted on 11/09/2004 11:15:46 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: bushisdamanin04
i actually agree with and support the proposition that the leftists should divorce from the red states.

i support their secession. they should all move to one or two states and then secede.

137 posted on 11/09/2004 11:18:45 AM PST by tame (We should fear those who are afraid of the religious right. Christophobes are DANGEROUS!)
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To: bushisdamanin04
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138 posted on 11/09/2004 11:20:58 AM PST by mapdude
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To: bushisdamanin04
I wonder what the left would be saying now if they had won?

I don't think I could tolerate Moore, O'Donnell, Streisand, McAuliffe, Rather, Olbermeyer and others in my face for the next 4 years.

I'm so glad to be in theirs.

139 posted on 11/09/2004 11:22:17 AM PST by zeebee
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To: tame

Someone was on TV a few days ago and said that if Canadians could vote on matters such as sodomite marriage, Canada would be as "Red" as the U.S.


140 posted on 11/09/2004 11:24:44 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: Tribemike

Hey Larry, where are you going to put all of the welfare children. Your blue territory amounts to several large cities...I guess you better get used to living amonst the everyday folk and having limits on the number of children you can have...your little country has no where to grow.


141 posted on 11/09/2004 11:27:29 AM PST by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope to save the life of a liberal?)
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To: Jagdgewehr

People like Larry O'Ded are precisely the reason that (a) liberals don't want americans to have guns and (b) the founding fathers new nuts like this will always exist and the only way to keep them to words is to have an armed militia made up of joe America


145 posted on 11/09/2004 11:36:08 AM PST by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope to save the life of a liberal?)
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To: Lady Jag

Anyone else taking note of all the newbies in the last week before the election to this DTG that seem to be posting a common message or is it just the smell of troll that has me wondering what the new democrat disinformational diversion deal is ?

< /tinfoil hat >


146 posted on 11/09/2004 11:36:46 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Squantos
Idiots only know one song and they can't even carry a tune.

They won't secede. They are too afraid they'll have to move away. LOL! And give up their chicken farms.

Example:



147 posted on 11/09/2004 11:43:13 AM PST by Lady Jag (YAHOOO!!! W2!!!)
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To: Javelina
End the farm subsidies, and we'll see what happens

Most farm subsidies are not NOT grow food in order to control prices.

148 posted on 11/09/2004 12:36:44 PM PST by Bommer ( Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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To: The Great Yazoo
Not to mention their groceries.

Or their energy.

149 posted on 11/09/2004 12:37:12 PM PST by jimt
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To: cripplecreek

People! Soylent Green is PEOPLE!...


150 posted on 11/09/2004 12:41:16 PM PST by bumperpool
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