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Lawrence O'Donnell calls Red states"welfare" states; urges Blue states to secede

Posted on 11/07/2004 2:17:10 PM PST by bushisdamanin04

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To: bushisdamanin04

No problemo Lawrence. We here in Red Montana have 200 Minutemen III's with 3 MIRVs each to use as a bargaining chip to "coerce" the Girly Boys from the blue states to do our bidding.


151 posted on 11/09/2004 12:45:08 PM PST by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: GunnyHartman

Amazes me that MSNBC could keep giving him air time. Of course, I think MSNBC is still devoting 90% of their air time to O'Reilly's dueling lawsuits. :)


152 posted on 11/09/2004 12:53:40 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: bushisdamanin04
Why do O'Donnell and his ilk continue to support candidates who advocate even more welfare programs and more socialism?

I'm sure the Red states would be glad to let the Blue states keep their welfare money--and keep their regulations, "values" and meddling to themselves as well.

Next time let the Dems run a candidate who advocates ending the Federal Welfare State. He'd probably get more support in the Red states than Kerry did.

153 posted on 11/09/2004 2:02:32 PM PST by CrosscutSaw (God is sovereign -- Jesus is Lord.)
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To: CrosscutSaw
It is one thing to have supported Kerry and to be a Dim, but O'Donnell has lost it on TV on more than one instance recently. He was screaming, and I literally mean screaming, at the SBVT rep on MSNBC one evening.

As an aside, shouting down the conservative seemed to be a game plan for Dims during the campaign season. About 80-90% of the "shout-downs" I witnessed on TV during the campaign were Dims shouting down conservatives. Stupid and discourteous!

154 posted on 11/09/2004 2:10:09 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: bushisdamanin04
It is one thing to have supported Kerry and to be a Dim, but O'Donnell has lost it on TV on more than one instance recently. He was screaming, and I literally mean screaming, at the SBVT rep on MSNBC one evening.

I saw that. It was a Friday night and I was watching it while on a weekend holiday at a resort sipping a Sam Adams (from the Boston Brewing Co. Oh the irony!).

He was making a complete fool of himself, screaming "Liar, Liar!" repeatedly while Pat Buchanan was pleading with him to let the SBVT get a word in edge wise.

Anyway, I just love the fact that many socialist liberals who are always advocating more welfare and wealth redistribution are now whining that the Red States are "Welfare States" and now are talking secession to avoid giving welfare to people who don't walk in lock step with their political views.

I guess you have to be a liberal and vote Democratic to qualify for welfare in their view.

I say let them keep their welfare and their government interference in people's daily lives as well. And I'll bet most "Red Staters" would agree with that.

155 posted on 11/09/2004 2:33:02 PM PST by CrosscutSaw (God is sovereign -- Jesus is Lord.)
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To: CrosscutSaw

Sam Adams Boston Lager -- a great brew!


156 posted on 11/09/2004 3:17:24 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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Just had an alarming thought: What if all of the enlightened, super-productive and altruistic Blue-State progressives simply decide that enough is enough.

"We're not knocking ourselves out anymore to support these Red State freeloaders."

Arrrrggggghhhh!!!

Coming soon to a theater at your mall... BLUE STATES SHRUGGED
Written, produced, directed, edited, promoted... by Michael Moore


157 posted on 11/10/2004 7:36:39 AM PST by joeystoy
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To: joeystoy

Rush is talking about my thread right now! Okay, okay, so he's talking about the same subject ... but I know he got it from my thread!


158 posted on 11/10/2004 11:10:08 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: carlr

Actually these are TRUE hard facts, with non-partisan spin on welfare states and the majority on welfare:

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/news/press/2004/TANF_data04.htm

Interesting read,
Wyoming has the lowest receipients and Texas has the most.


159 posted on 11/12/2004 4:21:03 AM PST by stopem
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To: bushisdamanin04

Does anyone else think Lawrence O'Donnell reminds him of Mel Kiper?


161 posted on 11/14/2004 11:46:25 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: jimt

As most of their energy is controlled from the red states, we'll need to revive an old bumpersticker from the early 80s:

DRIVE FAST
FREEZE A YANKEE IN THE DARK


162 posted on 11/14/2004 12:38:10 PM PST by jimt
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To: bushisdamanin04

The Blue states are really blue cities. If you combine data on voter preference by income level (from exit poll data) and percent of taxes paid by income level (income, payroll, and excise taxes from IRS data), you find that Bush voters pay 57% of the taxes and Kerry voters pay 42% of the taxes.

% of taxes paid
Under $15,000 - 1.2%
$15,000-$29,999 - 4.3%
$30,000-$49,999 - 11.0%
$50,000-$74,999 - 14.6%
$75,000-$99,999 - 13.9%
$100,000-$199,999 - 23.3%
$200,000 or more - 31.7%

% voting for Bush
Under $15,000 - 36%
$15,000-$29,999 - 42%
$30,000-$49,999 - 49%
$50,000-$74,999 - 56%
$75,000-$99,999 - 55%
$100,000-$199,999 - 57%
$200,000 or more - 63%

For each income level, multiplying (% of taxes paid) X (% voting for Bush), gives you

% of taxes paid by Bush voters
Under $15,000 - 0.4%
$15,000-$29,999 - 1.8%
$30,000-$49,999 - 5.4%
$50,000-$74,999 - 8.2%
$75,000-$99,999 - 7.6%
$100,000-$199,999 - 13.3%
$200,000 or more - 20.0%

For a total of 57% of taxes paid by Bush voters. You can do the same exercise for Kerry voters and see that they pay 42%.

Exit poll source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Tax data source: http://www.house.gov/jct/x-2-01.pdf


163 posted on 11/19/2004 3:07:35 AM PST by The Numbers Guy
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To: The Numbers Guy

Thanks. Great info.


164 posted on 11/19/2004 11:09:47 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: bushisdamanin04

HAH! New York State pays for NYC and that's why we're in such bad shape. Now secession from NYC wouldn't be such a bad idee-uh. This guy is a real jerk.


165 posted on 11/19/2004 11:13:46 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: freedom4me

The people at 'the home' must have thought he was well enough to go out for a couple of hours. Hopefully supervised!


166 posted on 11/19/2004 11:22:53 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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