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The article as a whole is about gay marriage, but I thought that what really needs to be called to Freepers' attention is Shuster's condescending attitude towards all conservatives: Disagree with Davis Shuster and you're a racist, sexist Neanderthal.

Remember, this guy is blogging for Hardball on MSNBC's website. And he reports for MSNBC every day.

Bias? What media bias?

(And yes, I know the headline doesn't match, sorry. If I had used the proper headline nobody would have recognized the point of the post, so I changed it. There's only so much you can do with 100 characters.)

1 posted on 11/07/2004 9:52:20 PM PST by Dont Mention the War
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"I would prefer that our society move forward."

The anus will lead us into a new dawn of Enlightenment!

29 posted on 11/07/2004 10:27:11 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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Maybe some Americans want to return to the days of slavery, devout observance to the Sabbath, long hair, all cotton clothes, and stoning people... I would prefer that our society move forward

David Shuster ... You are a Jack***

I never realized just how far left Shuster was till MSNBC hired him

32 posted on 11/07/2004 10:37:05 PM PST by Mo1 (one country, one Constitution, and one future that binds us)
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He has a strange way of vocalizing that is very distracting.
He has this weird aura about him, like he has a closet full of skeletons.


33 posted on 11/07/2004 10:37:19 PM PST by citizencon
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It is something wired into the genes of approximately 3 or 4 percent of the human population in every single culture on the planet.

He needs to get with the program. The number gays always use is 10%!

34 posted on 11/07/2004 10:37:30 PM PST by NYCVirago
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Liberals keep thinking like this... 2006 and 2008 will be a piece of cake. As long they keeping looking down on and showing contempt for the values of folks in flyover country, they'll remain a minority. Hopefully, a permanent one.


35 posted on 11/07/2004 10:39:46 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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There is a falicy out there in the homosexual enabling infrastructure that goes something like this.  Homosexuals are born that way.  It isn't their choice.

There is direct evidence to contradict this, and yet people ignore it.  How do they explain the man that courts women, finds one he likes, courts her, marries her and has children with her?  Some fifteen years later this guy comes out of the closet and claims he was born a homosexual.  Sorry, I'm not buying this for a moment.  This guy has decided to make a very devistating choice that is a betrayal to his whole family.  It was not a betrayal of who he was, when he courted and married his wife in the first place.

Look folks.  Either you are aroused by women or you are not.  I'd say a guy that has helped create three children has a rather weak argument when he states that he was born a homosexual. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

The truth is, there are people who are either enticed or abused into the homosexual world.  There are also adults who do a 180 and claim to have been born homosexual.

I am not making the case that all homosexuals made a choice, the wrong one.  I am making the case that the claim that all those carrying on homosexual relationships were born that way, is not factual IMO.  I do think that homosexuality may be something that in some cases can be overcome through therapy.  I know the enablers hate this theory, but there have been efforts in this direction, and some of the homosexuals under the programs have moved on to happy productive heterosexual relationshiips.
36 posted on 11/07/2004 10:41:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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I addressed homosexuality in a unique way on my blog a few years ago.

Alcoholism is a disease that some people are more prone to because of genetics. It doesn't mean they'll become alcoholics, however. As a society, we do not tolerate alcoholism as a way of life. We don't embrace it. We don't celebrate it. Alcoholics make bad parents, bad drivers, and bad workers. Further, it is very unhealty. When an alcoholic falls off the wagon, we don't say, "Hey, it's genetic, just accept it and drink up."

Homosexuality has no known genetic cause, yet with all of the known health issues surrounding homosexuals, we treat it as if it is perfectly normal and healthy.

Why, if homosexuality is "genetic", albiet with severe health consequences, do we encourage it, while at the same time we discourage other behaviors that have genetic causes and are just as unhealthy?

Why are there new HIV infections every day in this country that can be traced to homosexuals? WHY?! They complain about the government not doing enough in education, but we've known since the eighties how it is spread. I'm sick of it.

37 posted on 11/07/2004 10:41:45 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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I love this site, eyes wide open. When you have the truth on your side it's hard to be duped by the truth twisters. May God keep our eyes open.


38 posted on 11/07/2004 10:41:46 PM PST by twoshed (Duty, honor, country)
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No, David. I believe in live and let live. But we are not going to let them change an institution that is thousands of years old. It is too much to ask. They may visit in hospitals. They may have insurance benefits. They may have jobs and housing without discrimination. They may own property together. They may will their property to their partner. They may have a civil union. They are entitled to human compassion and decency. But they don't get marriage and they don't get to claim the same right to adopt kids as a mom and dad. That will be the destruction of our culture.


39 posted on 11/07/2004 10:41:57 PM PST by doug from upland (Vietnam Vets: FINALLY -- welcome home, heroes)
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The reason that source links MUST match the headline is to keep duplicate posts to a minumum. If a search of the headline fails to detect this was previously posted, it may be posted again.
40 posted on 11/07/2004 10:42:23 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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Am I the only one who remembers that it was Democrats who supported slavery and segregation and Republicans who opposed them?
41 posted on 11/07/2004 10:43:43 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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This is straight off of du the other day.


42 posted on 11/07/2004 10:44:07 PM PST by bad company (Four more years.)
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David Shuster: "Maybe some Americans want to return to the days of slavery..."

Wow -- And this guy expects to be taken seriously?

My theory is the MSM troll asylums and sanitariums for "analysts."

How else do we explain these people?

43 posted on 11/07/2004 10:46:19 PM PST by F16Fighter
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'While the Bible does suggest homosexuality is an abomination '

I think Dave needs to define 'suggest'. I guess it is now in the same league as 'is'.


44 posted on 11/07/2004 10:49:06 PM PST by xone
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The basic argument I heard was not about marriage (more on that below) but about being gay. And a majority of voters seem to believe that homosexuality is an "immoral lifestyle choice."

No, the BASIC argument was the gay community deciding to become Activist over the Issue of Gay Marriage in an Election Year..

The Mass. supreme court decision, and the San Francisco Mayor's "wedding party" caused a major backlash among americans of all backgrounds..
The Gay Community's "In Your Face" attitude resulted in passage of Marriage Amendments in 11 states..

It had nothing to do with homophobia, or racism.. It had to do with bad manners.. and the assault on a time-honored tradition..
People just had enough..

47 posted on 11/07/2004 10:53:00 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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Why not pass a law that requires all couples (as some churches do) to meet with a pastor and talk about hundreds of issues before the marriage.

Now I would just love for a Republican to suggest THIS! Can you hear the separation of church and state rants? Oh yeah "I want to send all couples, gay and straight, for counseling with a pastor."

If the pastor was worth a darn what do you think the first problem he would have the gay couple discuss?

This guy is pandering, he has no clear cut argument, grasp of the issues or even a concept of the constitutional law.

Twit.

48 posted on 11/07/2004 10:54:30 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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Sorry, 'Charlie'...but the gay gene does not exist. It is not hard-wired in...that was a false assumption promoted by unscientific research and the left-wing media was only too happy to agree.

To be honest, most gay men are that way due to environmental things, such as their relationship with their mother...very important, and quite often the absence of a father, or a father who is submissive to his wife. Others are raped at an early age and after the experience feel that there was something about them that caused the person to do what they did. Others are effeminate boys, who if left alone would not necessarily become gay, but are usually easy targets during their adolescent years by slightly older peers or other gay men who befriend them to woo them over.

I don't believe most Christians are homophobes, although we don't believe their lifestyle is normal. We could do them a lot of good by praying that they find help, and see the light. A lifestyle whose average male age is about 42 is not a normal lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination.


49 posted on 11/07/2004 10:57:59 PM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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is something wired into the genes of approximately 3 or 4 percent of the human population in every single culture on the planet

Falacious propaganda. Science has searched relentlessly and has consistently failed to come up with a "gay gene." Seems sexual deviance is a choice best dealt with as a mental health issue after all.

50 posted on 11/07/2004 11:09:53 PM PST by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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Bump and thanks for the ping.

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54 posted on 11/07/2004 11:20:13 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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I doubt seriously if Shuster has ever read the NEW testament. Also, I happen to prefer cotton. And I don't want to be responsible for all the folks who make steam irons becoming unemployed.


57 posted on 11/07/2004 11:21:56 PM PST by beelzepug (tag not to be removed under penalty of law except by consumer.)
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