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Iraqi Islamic Party quits govt
Reuters ^ | 11.09.04

Posted on 11/09/2004 5:51:55 AM PST by 4kevin

A leading Sunni Muslim political party pulled out of Iraq's US-backed interim government today in protest at the onslaught by American forces on the rebel-held city of Falluja. "The Iraqi Islamic Party has decided to withdraw from the government in protest against the attack on Falluja that is harming the people," said Mohsen Abdul Hamid, senior party official and member of Iraq's provisional National Assembly. US forces pushed deeper into Falluja today in an assault to root out foreign Islamic militants and Saddam Hussein loyalists they say are entrenched in the Sunni Muslim city. The party's decision to quit the government highlights splits among Iraqi politicians over the government's move to crush the bloody insurgency by force. But it was unclear what impact the withdrawal would have. The party's one cabinet representative, Industry and Minerals Minister Hajem al-Hassani, said he would leave the party but not resign. "I believe the fate of Iraq is more important than that of a political party and I will stay with the government," al-Hassani told Reuters. "I will withdraw from the Iraqi Islamic Party." The party will keep its four representatives on the 100-member National Assembly, a body created in August as a check on the activities of the interim government.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqiislamicparty; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; sunnimuslim; wot Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: 4kevin
The party's one cabinet representative, Industry and Minerals Minister Hajem al-Hassani, said he would leave the party but not resign. "I believe the fate of Iraq is more important than that of a political party Well, at least some people get it. Of course, that wouldn't be in the headline.
2 posted on 11/09/2004 5:54:20 AM PST by livius
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To: 4kevin

Doesn't sound that grim to me. A small setback yes, but major complications, no.


3 posted on 11/09/2004 5:54:30 AM PST by marvlus
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To: livius
Ooops.

The party's one cabinet representative, Industry and Minerals Minister Hajem al-Hassani, said he would leave the party but not resign. "I believe the fate of Iraq is more important than that of a political party."

Well, at least some people get it. Of course, that wouldn't be in the headline.

4 posted on 11/09/2004 5:55:39 AM PST by livius
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To: 4kevin
Reuters is overplaying this story with its title. Typical liberal media spin. The important part of the story is here:

The party's one cabinet representative, Industry and Minerals Minister Hajem al-Hassani, said he would leave the party but not resign. "I believe the fate of Iraq is more important than that of a political party and I will stay with the government," al-Hassani told Reuters. "I will withdraw from the Iraqi Islamic Party." The party will keep its four representatives on the 100-member National Assembly

So, the Islamic Party is not withdrawing its 4% representation to the National Assembly, and the one cabinet member it says it is withdrawing is actually staying on and quitting the Islamic Party. Sheesh!

5 posted on 11/09/2004 5:56:15 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: 4kevin

Stop spamming everywhere with links to your blog. Thank you.


6 posted on 11/09/2004 5:56:33 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: 4kevin
This complicates things... January is looking grim...

Not really. They'll be back once Fallujah is quelled. If not, then they'll have just opted out of having any say in Iraq future government. They may need to be reminded of this fact. That or have a closer look at the alternatives available to them as their terrorist insurgent friends are now experiencing in Fallujah.

7 posted on 11/09/2004 5:57:07 AM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you.


8 posted on 11/09/2004 5:57:35 AM PST by bayourod (Specter's litmus test : "No Christian Judges")
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To: 4kevin

Yeah life's a bitch when the tables are turned and instead of the Sunni's blowing up other Iraqi's, It's the Sunni's getting blown up.

I fail to see how having a group of terrorist and terrorist enablers within the government council is a good thing.


9 posted on 11/09/2004 5:58:17 AM PST by federal
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To: livius

any party that doesn't take the terrorists seriously should be tossed out, not given the luxury to quit. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.


10 posted on 11/09/2004 5:59:21 AM PST by pissant
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To: 4kevin
Grim??? They represent 1/25th of the Iraq government, and even less of the Iraq people, and even with that their representatives (one on the Governing Council and 4 out of 100 in the Chamber have so far refused to quit). I would say this is a great victory so far for us. If the best the mass exodus of Sunnis can muster is pretty much a failure, that means the great majority of Sunnis---which keep in mind is only a small minority of Iraqis overall--will stick with the new government and support elections in January. The truth is we expected a much bigger backlash that this, and were willing to accept a much bigger backlash. It is not over, but so far so good....
11 posted on 11/09/2004 6:01:15 AM PST by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: livius

My prayers are for the brave soldiers and Marines fighting in Iraq's cities. This is the most dangerous type of fighting, and determined terrorists can inflict many casualties.

I hope the President will authorize unlimited use of tactical airpower and artillery to kill terrorists where ever they are. It is imperative that the terrorists are eliminated before voting takes place in Iraq.

WHATEVER IT TAKES, DO IT NOW!


12 posted on 11/09/2004 6:01:26 AM PST by mohresearcher
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To: bayourod; All

Let us know via Abuse Reports if it continues.


13 posted on 11/09/2004 6:03:40 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: federal; All

Perosnally the whole damn lot of them need to be grounded to dust! no less. When there is a cancer DR, you have to get it all out! Dont leave a piece here or a piece there. They are well know to be "sleepers". That means sleep and dont wake up until your enemy is asleep and then kill them.

My friend How can we set up a governent on the backs of these vermin. Im all for an America Government running IRaq. Screw the idea of having Iraqis govern themselves. These people dont know HOW!!! Im all for carpet bombs and smart bombs and 30,000 lbs of TNT- But having these vermin rule? This will go nowhere. US, Please set up shop in Iraq...Please!


14 posted on 11/09/2004 6:10:42 AM PST by ruready4eternity (Carpet Bomb FALLUJAH!)
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To: federal

Even this story shows that all Sunnis are not terrorists or terrorist enablers. You did read the story?


15 posted on 11/09/2004 8:13:31 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Yes I read the story and no where did I say or imply that all Sunni's were terrorists, but the fact remains that the large majority of the bombings and beheadings are being done by sunni groups.

It is also a fact that islam considers it ok to lie to infidels to protect muslims. So you'll never ever learn the truth by negotiation.

So what it gets down to is I guess I don't understand the point of your post to me, The sunni's have been blowing up people all over Iraq now and during Saddams reign. So now when the boot is on their neck I'm suppose to have sympathy. Our entire strategy is to give them a chance to stop and change, the ones that don't deserve exactly what they are getting IMO.


16 posted on 11/09/2004 9:13:23 AM PST by federal
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To: federal

The point is that the Minister and the Sunni representatives did not quit the government and expressed the fact that remaining within it was more important than this party. In addition, Allawi is a Sunni if I am not mistaken.

Thus, your comment was inappropriate considering many of those killed by the terrorists have been Sunni. To imply that they are all terrorists (which you did) is wrong. No one said anything about sympathy but objectivity would be nice.


17 posted on 11/09/2004 10:04:45 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: 4kevin

"Mohsen Abdul Hamid, senior party official and member of Iraq's provisional National Assembly" belongs at the end of a rope.


18 posted on 11/09/2004 11:00:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Bullshit this article was about a sunni muslim political party so therefore I was commenting about the sunni's. I neither said all sunni's were terrorist or did I say all terrorists were sunni's.

The point of the article I was taking exception with was that this Sunni islamic party is now very concerned about people being killed, now that the bombs are exploding in their neighborhoods. Funny you mention Allawi (who is indeed a sunni) as he doen't seem to have a problem with what is going on in Fallugia, apparently he is convinced a large group of terrorist are indeed present there. And the fact is Zarqawi and his group are Sunni but they are being funded and supported by both Sunni's and the Iranian mullahs who are Shia.


I simply don't trust or believe that muslims will ever be truthful or honest when dealing with Americans, therefore calling for negotiations and discussions are just diversions. All of which is spelled out in the Quran, like it or not it is a tactic spelled out by muhammad himself. I have no problem with objectivity but when the overwhelming majority of the killing is being done by one sub-sect (this time being the sunni's) I also have no problem taking exception when they posture as the victim when they are only a victim to their own intolerance.
19 posted on 11/09/2004 11:14:01 AM PST by federal
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To: federal

Your initial post did not achieve your intention then since it definitely implied no sunnis should be in the government.

As far the trustworthiness of Moslems I adopt the Reagan philosophy. "Trust but verify."


20 posted on 11/09/2004 12:12:28 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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