Election Day: Rigged Polls, Rigged Networks

Men's News Daily ^ | 9 November 2004 | Nicholas Stix

[Ciexyz]

Most excellent read.

Perhaps all this discussion is having some effect on the MSM. I noticed that my local ABC noon news affiliate respectfully reported events in Falluja and even had a segment on the new Ronald Reagan stamp, issued today.

[mrustow]

The critical moment came at 12:41 a.m. Wednesday, when, shortly after Florida had been painted red for Mr. Bush, Fox News declared that Ohio - and, very likely, the presidency - was in Republican hands.

"Howard Wolfson, a strategist, burst into the 'boiler room' in Washington where the brain trust was huddled and said, 'we have 30 seconds' to stop the other networks from following suit.

I don't doubt this at all. Anyone who took statistics in college could so the same calculations Ed Bradley did on CBS. It was pathetic to see the MSM "news" people not report the obvious "news" fact that Bush had won reelection.

I don''t know about you, but I'm amazed that the Times would reveal that act of collusion. I suspect that many of her colleagues are not at all happy about her reporting on that incident, or her editors letting it find its way into print. Wilgoren's article could influence election reporting for years.

[mrustow]

""If we go back in history to prior presidential elections, those exit polls were dead on. Something has changed to make them less dead on."

This is an easy one. Historically there were a greater number of housewives who voted early. Now many more women work, and there are a far greater number of unemployed who vote early. Unemployed tend to vote Democrat where housewives were split more evenly. Unless employment status is taken into account, early voter poll samples will continue to favor Democrats.

The unemployed do not support your thesis, because in prior elections there were MORE unemployed than now. A lower unemployment rate should have boosted early GOP numbers. And your claim about more women working has nothing to do with changes from the 1990s until now, because the change in married women's work participation occurred between 1960 and 1980. Thus, for your hypothesis to hold, the exit poll problems should have dogged exit polls during the 1980s and early 1990s, but NOT NOW. They shouldn't be a problem now, since statisticians would have learned in the meantime to correct for such early daytime imbalances.

[Coop]

I'd love to debate the issue with you, but then I'd get banned.

In my many years here, despite all the exaggerated rhetoric, I've never seen anyone banned for civil debate.

[weegee]

Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

[Grampa Dave]

Baghdad "Zog" Zogby on 2004 Election, "'I don't know, said [Democrat] pollster John Zogby, who relied partially on exit polls Tuesday to declare Kerry the winner in Ohio. 'I'm not blaming everything on the exit polls, but the exit polls were terrible.'"

Baghdad Zog was seen above still declaring a Kerry victory days after Kerry got his butt kicked ib election day.

[mrustow]

Is the list back? Hurray!

Love that tagline.

[mrustow]

Love that graphic!

[Grampa Dave]

Bootyist Monk did a great job with that graphic.

It is perfect for this Islamofascist, Baghdad Zog, who pretends to be a big time pollster.

[mrustow]

Straw Man Poll Zing!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

I VOW to the 58,000 + names on
The Viet Nam Wall who never came home

"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all."

MSM still refuses to tell the real story about Hanoi Kerry!

ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
is part of THE cover up of the election.

Do you wonder why the Left whines about the election results?

They still think Hanoi Kerry is a "war hero"

They don't know what a traitor he is!

And I don't know about you but
I'm sick and tired of the Right media saying
"what an honorable man Senator Kerry is"

Why isn't the Right all over Hanoi Kerry
to be impeached from the US Senate?

"In a bombshell development that could have turned President Bush's victory into a landslide
had it come out before the election, John Kerry wrote in his Vietnam war diary that
he met with "terrorists" in Paris - a revelation that "flabbergasted" his running mate John Edwards."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/7/101350.shtml

And still the MSM,
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
hide the truth from America.

And still 99 US Senators refuse to impeach this traitor.

Timeline of John Kerry

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

Hanoi Approved of Role Played By Kerry and VVAW

http://www.nysun.com/article/3756

The whole 42:09 Stolen Honor online FREE right now! E-mail it NOW!

Stolen Honor nails Kerry and the VVAW
and how they lied at Winter Soldier.
And how Kerry lied to the US Senate in 1971
And how Kerry and his pack of liars caused our POW's to suffer!

Kerry and the DNC cannot stop
EVERYONE on the internet from seeing this!

http://stolenhonor.com/documentary/watch-video.asp

EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

Distribute these url's!

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com/

[mrustow]

Straw Man Poll Zing!

[Dianna]

I just don't see George Bush doing what needs to be done. And down the road, when the GOP has a less attractive candidate and the Dems have a more attractive one, the Dems are going to steal a close election using this method.

Actually, I am more optimistic on this score. The only way we knew about the fraudulent registrations going on was because the GOP was fighting them in court. Prior to this election( and after Nixon-Kennedy), was fraud ever a major story on local news channels? They discussed it on my local news a number of times!

That coverage had to have an impact. In some areas, dems will still cry about disenfranchisement if we demand showing ID to vote. But I think the measure would pass if it was put to voters.

[tiki]

I've already done what needs to be done. I don't watch their programs and I don't buy their papers. I don't visit their sites. Anyone who believes that they skew the news to fit their own personal beliefs should do the same.

[mrustow]

Straw Man Poll Zing!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[mrustow]

Did you see Monday Night Football? At the end of the game, Al Michaels said of his pre-game prediction (either "that there would be a lot of punts" or "a lot of points"), that it was "about as reliable as a Zogby poll."

[daddyOwe]

Note to Zogby. I am a liar.

[mrustow]

Media Straw Man Poll Zing!

[t_skoz]

if I never hear the words "John Zogby" again it won't be too soon!