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Bill Clinton: Gay Marriage Cost John Kerry the Election
Newsmax and the Utica Observer Dispatch ^ | 11/10/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/10/2004 11:25:15 AM PST by gopwinsin04

Ex-President Bill Clinton singled out the issue of gay marriage last night as the leading cause of Senator John Kerry's defeat in last Tuesday's election.

In a quote omitted by the major wire service coverage of a Clinton speech to New York's Hamilton College, the ex-president said, 'Gay marriage was an overwhelming factor in the defeat of John Kerry.'

In comments covered only by the local Utica paper, the Observer Dispatch, Clinton blamed the Massachusetts Supreme Court for spotlighting the issue.

'With one decision, of one Supreme Court, all of a sudden we have a consitutional amendment designed, to whip people up, to inflame them, make them stop thinking about other issues.'

In the closing days of the 2004 presidential campaign, Clinton repeatedly urged John Kerry to voice support for at least a few of the 11 state proposals (especially in Ohio) reaffirming traditional marriage laws.

But Kerry, who claimed to oppose gay marriages, rejected the idea as out of hand.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clinton; homosexual; homosexualagenda; kerry; samesexmarriage
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Positioning his wife for 08...
1 posted on 11/10/2004 11:25:16 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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Anti guns lost it for Gore, gay marriage loses it for sKerry.

An excuse for everything!

2 posted on 11/10/2004 11:28:28 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: gopwinsin04

Whoah... Bill throwing gasoline on the Democrats' blame-the-gays fest? Curiouser and curiouser...


3 posted on 11/10/2004 11:29:08 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: gopwinsin04

Bill married gay and it never hurt him politically.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 11:29:13 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: gopwinsin04
In the closing days of the 2004 presidential campaign, Clinton repeatedly urged John Kerry to voice support for at least a few of the 11 state proposals (especially in Ohio) reaffirming traditional marriage laws.

However, Ohio may have had the most extreme constitutional amendment because if forbade civil unions also. He couldn't support Ohio's without at least tacitly supporting them all.

5 posted on 11/10/2004 11:29:32 AM PST by KarlInOhio ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC Chief Terry McAuliffe, 11/2/04)
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To: gopwinsin04

Well, at least he places the blame where it belongs, with the Massachusetts Supreme Court.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 11:29:33 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Proud Reagan Alumna!)
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lmao! Bill figures he's immune from bigotry cirticism on this one since he married one..


8 posted on 11/10/2004 11:30:42 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: KarlInOhio

Correct, Kerry had already endorsed civil unions continiously throughout his campaign if I am not mistaken.


9 posted on 11/10/2004 11:32:49 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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so who listens to this guy anymore? he didn't win any states for the dems. in fact didn't the dems lose every state he campaigned in except hawaii?

when he was prez, he lost both the house AND the senate to the republicans, and managed to divide his party and the nation like seldom before.

yeah. his is an opinion i'll certainly take to heart /sarcasm


10 posted on 11/10/2004 11:33:01 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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He is telling her that to win she must Sistah Souljah the gays.


11 posted on 11/10/2004 11:33:07 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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From the election analysis that I've been seeing, it appears that Bush got about the same level of support in those 11 states as he did last time.

Plus, more folks voted to prevent "gay marriage" then voted for Bush in many areas.


12 posted on 11/10/2004 11:33:10 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Bill Clinton: Gay Marriage Cost John Kerry the Election

John and Teresa are gay? Who knew?
13 posted on 11/10/2004 11:34:11 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: camle

This indicates Shrillary will probably be running to the right of Skerry on this issue during the '08 primaries..


14 posted on 11/10/2004 11:34:12 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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Bill Clinton: Gay Marriage Cost John Kerry the Election

Makes sense. I know I always felt a liitle uncomfortable, seeing Kerry all huggy-kissy with that one real fugly-type guy he always fagging around with:


15 posted on 11/10/2004 11:34:24 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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'Gay marriage was an overwhelming factor in the defeat of John Kerry.'

kerry's home state's supreme court, with its ruling on gay marriage, ended up stabbing kerry in the back. love it! (most people write off california as the state of nuts and fruits)

16 posted on 11/10/2004 11:35:49 AM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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Well, when the democrats began debating this in the summer of 03' with Howard Dean and the base driving everyone left, they basically took the wrong position early. Anyone else who disagreed with the party/activist line, such as Lieberman, were drummed out early. Kerry has a lifetime record of not supporting marraige, so his stances would never fly.


17 posted on 11/10/2004 11:36:23 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: mlocher

Massachusettes turns out the bigger losers, imo.


18 posted on 11/10/2004 11:37:35 AM PST by sarasota
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To: gopwinsin04

The delicious irony, of Kerry losing because of the ONLY thing he took a strong and consistent stand on!


19 posted on 11/10/2004 11:37:54 AM PST by waterman478
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Here's how I see it:

Democrats registered huge numbers of new voters. More of the same won't make a difference.
Democrats staged a massive get-out-the-vote effort. More of the same won't make a difference.

It's the Ideology. Gays? Guns? Taxes? Iraq? Unions? Affirmative Action? I don't know what they will decide, but the Democrats MUST toss aside some of their special interests. Most Americans oppose the Democrats because of what the Democrats value. The Democrats must change some of their values, and reject some of the things they have supported for the past few decades. They will do so before 2008.

Bill is signaling that throwing homosexuals overboard is the smart move. Maybe that will be the choice. But I think it will be insufficient. Who else will they walk away from?

20 posted on 11/10/2004 11:38:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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