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1 posted on 11/11/2004 6:37:19 PM PST by xzins
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One way or another, the filibuster of judicial nominees must end

When pigs fly, I'm afraid.

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35 posted on 11/11/2004 6:58:07 PM PST by foreverfree
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You know what kills me about this whole thing is that the Rats don't even have to do a real fillibuster to stop legislation. They just threaten one and everybody clams up and goes home for the night. In the old days you had to hold the floor for as many hours as it took. Those guys would talk for hours on end. The majority needs to stand firm and force the minority to put up (for hours at a time) or shut up.


39 posted on 11/11/2004 7:01:44 PM PST by gmoore57
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the opposition just threaten to filibuster and that usually prevents the vote? Call their bluff and make them stand in the well and talk until they drop. See what they're made of instead of just rolling over before the "threat".


41 posted on 11/11/2004 7:03:30 PM PST by dandi
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Refreshing. Now let's hope we get more out of this than empty talk.


44 posted on 11/11/2004 7:05:04 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hey-hey! Ho-ho! Arlen Specter's gotta go!)
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"One way or another, the filibuster of judicial nominees must end,"

Have there been any filibusters? Or just the usual Dem threat of a filibuster followed by an immediate surrender by the Republicans? I want Klansman Byrd reading the phonebook on the Senate floor for 24 hours. I expect there will be nothing more important this Senate term than the appointment of Supreme and Appeals Court justices. I don't want the Republicans to surrender.

46 posted on 11/11/2004 7:05:25 PM PST by KarlInOhio ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC Chief Terry McAuliffe, 11/2/04)
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The odds of which Senators will vote to end filibustering is wrong. Specter will vote with the Dems.

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72 posted on 11/11/2004 7:27:51 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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I will say this,if the Republicans, with the majority they now have, cannot change the Senate rules at or before a new Congress conveins, they may as well pack up and go home.

You can bet your a$$ if the Democrats, with the majority the Republicans now have, wanted to change the rules, they would get changed.

As I have said before and take no pride in saying again, Janet Reno has more ba77s than all the Republican Senators, excepting the ones newly elcted, combined. Sad, Sad,and Tragic.


75 posted on 11/11/2004 7:31:20 PM PST by sport
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If he can't get the 60 votes needed to get a nominee through what makes him think he'll get the 60 needed to change the rules.

He needs to deal with and correct the problems that he can fix starting with Arlen Specter. Then maybe people will start to take him seriously.

81 posted on 11/11/2004 7:35:36 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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Either we accept a new and destructive practice or we act to restore constitutional balance," he said.

Screw that, restore constitutional balance, PERIOD, end of story

Trent Lott should be stripped naked and beat with a rubber hose for capitulating to "Little Tommy Daashole"

He got the senate into this mess.

84 posted on 11/11/2004 7:37:47 PM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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The Constitution says a simple majority is all that is needed to confirm judges, so why not have the Supreme Court Decide?

Could any of my fellows freepers tell me why the Supreme Court can't fix this seeing how it's right in the Constitution ?
86 posted on 11/11/2004 7:39:10 PM PST by factmart
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Rather than rely on a lot of parlimentary maneuvering that has no chance of succeeding, Frist and the Republicans should just call the Senate into session and keep it there until the fillibuster is broken. This is why a fillibuster is practically impossible to break now as opposed to years past. In earlier practice the senator had to actually hold the floor and speak. That's not required any more. There are literally weeks, if not months of inactivity on a particular question when a fillibuster is in operation because the opposing senators are sitting on their fat asses in their offices or home pressing the flesh. If Frist had the balls to call them all into session and force Byrd to stand at the podium for 96 straight hours, they'd fold like a cheap umbrella!


95 posted on 11/11/2004 7:52:33 PM PST by gbchriste
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Wow. Frist sounds like he's REALLY getting mad now. The Dems better watch out.


97 posted on 11/11/2004 7:55:38 PM PST by Jorge
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"45 Republicans, 44 Democrats and a Democrat-leaning independent..."

Um.......55, 44, Indepen. I think.


102 posted on 11/11/2004 8:09:35 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the...feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse." --J.S. Mill)
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"But in a Senate next year with 45 Republicans, 44 Democrats and a Democrat-leaning independent, Democrats still will have the 40 votes necessary to uphold a filibuster."



Dammit, why can't the media get this right. It takes *60* votes to break a filibuster, which means that the Democrats would need 41 votes to keep a filibuster going.

That means that we need just 5 Democrats to join the 55 Republicans in voting for cloture to end a filibuster. Ben Nelson of NE will surely vote for cloture, and I would be shocked if Kent Conrad of ND, who is also up for reelection in 2006, didn't do so as well. That means that we would need just 3 more Democrats to break a filibuster: I think the top candidates are Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor of AR, Ken Salazar of CO, Tom Carper of DE, Evan Bayh of IN, Mary Landrieu of LA, Max Baucus of MT, Jeff Bingaman of NM, Byron Dorgan of ND, Tim Johnson of SD and Robert Byrd of WV.


107 posted on 11/11/2004 8:23:06 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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Now the Republican filibuster of Bush nominees can start.


114 posted on 11/11/2004 9:25:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Now the Republican filibuster of Bush nominees can start.


115 posted on 11/11/2004 9:25:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I wonder if Frist is offering just words or real action here.


116 posted on 11/11/2004 9:32:03 PM PST by Theodore R.
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Appoint John Kyl to chair the judiciary and change the vote for confirmation of judges to a simple majority (51%).
That should do the trick.


120 posted on 11/11/2004 10:51:32 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: xzins; ken5050; digger48; LibFreeUSA; BikerNYC; glockmeister40; Rightwing Conspiratr1; ...
Hey, team...

Frist & the GOP can do this now, this term, before we even have a 55-team majority! And expecially now that RINO Specter is fighting for his future and can drag the other RINOs kicking and screaming.

This can happen on Tues 11/16/04, as a point of order, when the senate is in executive session to consider the nomination of Francis Harvey to Secretary of the Army. And next session's 55 Repubs would leave the rule in place.

Frist & Lott have both said they could do this right after the November election. Let's hold them to it...
CONTACT THE GOP SENATORS NOW!
BE A FILIBUSTER BUSTER

132 posted on 11/12/2004 6:10:31 PM PST by sanchmo (Prov 11:10 - "When the wicked perish, there is jubilation")
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