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Translation: If it wasn't for those stupid Christians, our hero John Kerry would be president!
1 posted on 11/12/2004 4:54:44 AM PST by fr11
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Translation: If it wasn't for those stupid Christians, our hero John Kerry would be president!

Better translation:

We are embarrased because folks are spouting off on a subject they know nothing about.

2 posted on 11/12/2004 5:05:24 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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Imagine...calling the theory of evolution...a THEORY! What will those nasty Christians come up with next? /sarcasm>
3 posted on 11/12/2004 5:05:27 AM PST by leenie312 (1 John:4-6)
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To: fr11

Similar issue; this is from Susan "chain smoker" Estrich's Nov 5th column in which she derides Christians as "an electorate where according to one exit poll, four out of 10 voters believe God created the world in seven days."

http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?next=2&ColumnsName=ses


4 posted on 11/12/2004 5:06:19 AM PST by marineguy
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"Lord, don't we have more important things to worry about?" she asked. "It's just a flat-out embarrassment."

oops!

6 posted on 11/12/2004 5:08:43 AM PST by 1john2 3and4
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The "rubes" are the ones that want to argue an unprovable theory is fact. Any theory of how the world was created is doomed to remain a theory since it is scientifically unprovable. It then becomes a question of philosophy rather than science. If you desire to have a world view devoid of a spiritual dimension you will gravitate to the theory of evolution or some other theory like it.
Of course it is silly to say creationism is the opposing theory if the argument is scientific. Creationism can only be an opposing theory if the argument is philosophical.
I imagine all of this will be settled when God appears and reveals how he created the universe anyway. After all, he was the only one who was there at the time, thus the only one capable of fulfilling the scientific requirement of observation.
9 posted on 11/12/2004 5:13:07 AM PST by Ricanator (rubic's3)
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Also, we must all work diligently in the coming months to convince “progressives” that the Democratic Party has let them down. They must abandon the party. Their only recourse is to join and work for the Green Party moving forward. I may even register as a Green Party member to swell their voter registration rolls. Divide and conquer.

Begin with putting all known “progressives” in your sphere of influence on the Green Party mail list from their website. Great fun. Start inundating them with information now.


10 posted on 11/12/2004 5:13:45 AM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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BTW, your addition to the headline:

(AP says Christians are an embarrassment to society)

is pure codswallop!

11 posted on 11/12/2004 5:14:38 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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"People want to project the image that Georgia is a modern state, that we're in the 21st century. Then something like this happens," said Emory University molecular biologist Carlos Moreno

yo, Carlos, plenty more blue territory for you to move to pal. sorry that "God" thing bothers you so much...

15 posted on 11/12/2004 5:53:09 AM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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This religious zealotry is the only thing I don't like about the Conservative movement.

There are quite a few of us intellectual conservatives who reject the litmus test of accepting Creationism and rejecting evolution.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 5:56:15 AM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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Isn't it embarrassing for someone to believe in the incredibly improbable hoax of spontaneous generation?

The author is embarrassing herself with her own writing.


17 posted on 11/12/2004 6:03:53 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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>>"People want to project the image that Georgia is a modern state, that we're in the 21st century. Then something like this happens," said Emory University molecular biologist Carlos Moreno. <<

Alternate translation: In the truly modern state, the sheeple believe as we tell them to believe.


18 posted on 11/12/2004 6:04:20 AM PST by BlueYonder
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Some here worry that Georgia is making itself look like a bunch of rubes or, worse, discrediting its own students.

Well, it's good that the AP writer got a wide spectrum of opinions on the subject, to provide a balanced report.

Oh, wait... she didn't. Never mind.

19 posted on 11/12/2004 6:06:45 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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(AP says Christians are an embarrassment to society)

It's not that Christians are an embarrassment to society. It's that creationists are an embarrassment--a deep shame in fact--to Christianity, and a humiliation to the conservative movement in general.

When liberals denounce conservatives as uneducated fools, and point to creationism as evidence, the charge sticks fast.

42 posted on 11/12/2004 7:14:42 AM PST by Physicist
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Moreno recalled how, after graduating from Georgia public schools, he headed north to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (news - web sites), only to find that people were less than kind about his educational roots.

But Yankees evolved from monkeys so who cares what they think ;o)

48 posted on 11/12/2004 7:19:48 AM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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I'm going to be extremely pissed off if this Judge deems that placing a sticker in a text book to say Evolution is a Theory not a Fact is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. What the hell kind of protection does the CONSTITUTION provide for the the subject matter in high school text books???


50 posted on 11/12/2004 7:23:03 AM PST by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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I remember in college a text-book giving the exact date that an event happened as something like 400,304,053 years ago. Sure... whatever you say. It must be true or they wouldn't have been so precise.


55 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:14 AM PST by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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It isn't Christians that are embarassing; it's Creationists along with Flat-Earthers, Hollow-Earthers, Astrologers, Palmists, etc.


67 posted on 11/12/2004 7:49:15 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Evolution = fataly flawed premise masquerading as theory.

Sadly, the premise is parroted as settled fact by some of today's supposedly elite scientists, even in the face of an increasing body evidence to the contrary that they too often willfully ignore. Intellectual honesty begs that they should really find a better model. Even the atheist and pan-spermia advocate, Francis Crick, of DNA helix discovery fame, had to admit to an Intelligent Design model. What are the self-anointed supposedly scientific thought leaders of Georgia so worried about?

Scientific existentialists worship at the altar of their own grey mater, stroke their collective self-importance, and ignore that which impales their settled orthodoxy. They do this, only so that their self-validating materialistic view might survive and that they might hoist their own intellects to the point of foolishly believing that they are they are their own creators, and thus they are the masters of their fates. Their reasoning then entitles them to become their own little gods, answerable only to themselves and their sycophants.

The premise of evolution stifles the search for truthful, reasoned explanations for observed phenomena, because those that adhere to it fear that to contemplate another model other than the evolutionary one will destroy the false sense of self-validation they have erected for themselves. As anyone who has wandered into a creation-evolution thread on FR knows, one cannot have an open and honest scientific discussion with such individuals who are themselves so willingly self-deceived. It is why they so often respond defensively and condescendingly to those that challenge the evolutionary model. It is not the scientific observations and the explanations thereof that they wish to debate, and that I as an accomplished scientist myself, would happily debate with them.

Clearly, there are several accomplished scientists here at FR, some with whom I agree, others with whom I disagree. We post to each other collegially.

Unfortunately, too often one encounters egos merely dressed up with the pretense of "science," however, many of whom are merely influenced by the intergalactic make-believe of Hollywood. In that sense, their frequently bile-laced and embittered utterances are out-workings of their childish school-yard style defense mechanisms that they have felt they must develop in order to hide behind the skirts of Darwin. They attempt to color themselves with "science," but when one looks closely and challenges their premise, it too quickly becomes painfully obvious that it is merely their own egos which they seek to protect.

What a comfort it must be for the evolutionists who post to FreeRepublic to now have as the vanguards of their egos the likes of Maureen Dowd, Paul Krugman, the New York Times, the MSM, and the ACLU! It's the company you keep sometimes, I guess.

As for Creationists, they can continue to keep company with all those esteemed biblical Creation adherents, whose names encircle the buildings of MIT.

78 posted on 11/12/2004 8:05:04 AM PST by Agamemnon
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It's amazing! We finally found the missing link; The person who wrote this article.


93 posted on 11/12/2004 8:28:31 AM PST by riverbender
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We had the same issue here in Texas years ago. The Attorney General issued a simple and common sense opinion: You can't single out one theory among the many in textbooks and curricula for special disclaimers because the motivation for doing so is obviously religious. Urging students to understand the nature of scientific theories as such is no problem.

If the sticker people are so worried about "dogmatism," why not apply the disclaimer globally and make it apply to all theories in science?

115 posted on 11/12/2004 10:10:30 AM PST by Stultis
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