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Vindicating the Serbian People: An 'Aerial' Counter-Attack
Serbianna ^ | Friday, November 12, 2004 | T.V. Weber

Posted on 11/12/2004 5:28:06 AM PST by Calpernia

The last of Clinton’s bombs fell on Serbia over five years ago. But now, America is focused on another war, so that the media in the U.S. can treat Clinton’s debacle in the Balkans, and its ongoing aftermath, as though they were yesterday’s news. It is easy to see why the American public has not yet come to terms with a number of vital issues connected with those events.

Unanswered Questions in the Balkans:

Where is the evidence of “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo - and where are those “mass graves”?

Each war gets a different media “spin.” The direction of “spin” depends upon whether the media intend to help or to hurt the current administration. For several years, the U.S. media have been relentlessly harping upon the question of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and demanding to know whether any of them have been found. We know that Iraq once had them. We know that they once used them. We know that Iraq did not side with the U.S. in the so-called “war on terrorism.” (Considering that radical factions of Islam have declared war on the U.S., it is a nonsequitor to declare war on a tactic rather than an enemy. See Rip Snortin' Van Winkle & Strange Bedfellows--Then and Now for our earlier comments.) We know that Saddam Hussein publicly offered large sums of money to the families of suicide bombers. Yet we keep encountering the same public expressions of outrage in the U.S. Many continue to ask, “Where are those weapons that were supposed to be in Iraq?”

Well, Serbia was never allied with anyone who attacked the US—never ever! Out of the blue, the Clinton-dominated media began concocting tales of “ethnic cleansing” that accused the Serbs of atrocities comparable to those of the Third Reich. As the war against the Serbian people raged on, the American public was fed a steady diet of what were purported to be “aerial photos of mass graves.” So, five years later, where are those “mass graves”?

Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

We are getting almost daily reports of the ongoing mess that has followed the Bushes’ war in Iraq. This is a valid concern. Many have pointed out the dismal failure of America’s attempt to force its own idea of “democracy” on the Iraqi people.

But where is the outrage over the mess that US foreign policy has made in Kosovo? The people that the U.S. and its NATO allies were allegedly fighting to protect were, and still are, the worst violators of minority rights on the planet.

Following my article, The Tale of Two Shquiptars, I heard from a number of individuals who claimed to be young Albanians. They all engaged in polite dialog. They all told me, in one way or another, that Islam played no role in the reasons for the conflict between their people and the Serbs in Kosovo. They also scoffed at my claims that al-Qaeda and the KLA had any connection with that war. In every other way, their stories diverged so much that they each seemed to be talking about a different conflict. Most of them asked me to set the folks at Serbianna straight.

After I referred them all to the detailed information available on Emperors Clothes at Bin Laden in the Balkans, none of them could give me a cogent reason to doubt the information presented there. Since then, we have received permission from Emperors Clothes to post the data on our website, www.tvweber.com, also, at www.tvweber.com/binLaden_KLA.htm. So why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

Taking It to the Air

One of the reasons for getting my book to press was that it would afford an opportunity to vindicate the Serbs. The title of the book, The Crumbling Wall Against Tyranny: a/k/a The United States Constitution, does not give the slightest suggestion that there is anything in it that would remotely relate to the Balkans. Even so, in the span of seven pages, the reader sees a clear link between Clinton’s radical Muslim allies in the Balkans and the perpetrators of the 9-11 attack upon the United States. Those tragedies exemplify what can happen when the president is permitted to flout the Constitution with impunity, and to usurp powers not granted to the Presidency under the Constitution.

Using talk radio, we now have a chance to get these messages to the Christian people in America. It is my personal “aerial attack” upon the misinformation and propaganda that bombards us all.

Hence, among the suggested questions for discussion that my publicist sends to radio talk show hosts is: “Why do you call President Clinton, ‘al Qaeda’s man in the White House?’”

With the world listening, I explain in concise, “sound bite” language that Clinton conducted a war against the Christian people of the Balkans, on behalf of bin Laden’s allies. I don’t even need to say the word “Serb.” Some listeners understand immediately; others will need to think about the message first. But a Christian audience should have no trouble getting the message.

If the Crumbling Wall Falls, Tyranny Reigns

My book is about the American system of government, how it should work, and why it no longer works so well. It roundly condemns the actions of those U.S. presidents who have—contrary to their Constitutional status—assumed the powers that allowed Clinton to launch his war against the Serbian people without interference from Congress.

Only Congress has the power to declare war, and there had been no declaration of war, yet Congress sat back and let the war continue. It is illegal for a President to do as Clinton did; yet the American people accepted it. Neither Congress nor the American people attempted to stop him.

The potential for tyranny is great when one man can single-handedly start a war and no one dare raise a hand to stop him.

America at the Crossroads

The bitterness of the 2004 campaign season is one more piece of evidence that the US has lost its Constitutional moorings. Every four years, we can each offer a miniscule degree of input regarding who our next dictator will be. Except for those who have already resigned themselves to the idea of being, in effect, slaves to the government of the United State (intentionally leaving the “s” out of “States), and those who feel that the U.S. is beyond hope, citizens are in absolute horror over the outcome of each election.

With the Clinton administration long out of power, it is time for America to make amends. Both Democrats and Republicans need to take an honest look at Clinton’s failed foreign policy and assume responsibility for setting matters aright.

With the President’s new administration about to begin, there is absolutely NO excuse for retaining anyone in the federal government who still considers the Serbs to be “war criminals,” the Russians to be our “geopolitical rivals,” and the KLA and Bosnian Muslim fanatics to be our “friends.” It is not our purpose to raise the issue of the Constitutional definition of treason, which was once a capital offense rather than a prerequisite for entry into America’s self-styled elite. But it is entirely reasonable to insist that the federal government cease to employ those people in any position of public trust!

The administration needs to look for honest and capable people who are free of racist bigotry against Slavic peoples, and free of religious bigotry against Orthodox Christians. It may even be necessary to recruit candidates from sources other than the Ivy League, the University of Chicago, or the Beltway “think tanks,” which evidently have become breeding grounds for their own particular prejudices and distorted worldviews.

The Serbs have been an ally of the U.S. since there was a free Serbia in the 19th century. Isn’t it time to renounce Clinton’s failed Balkans policy, apologize to the Serbian people, and restore the lands that they have lost due to the wrongful intervention of the American military?

If not, let us remind you of the slogan, “Serbia, the land where empires die.” Who would have expected the once-mighty empire of the Ottoman Turks, the Austro-Hungarian empire of the Hapsburgs, and the formidable Nazi empire of the Third Reich, all to become extinct after picking on tiny Serbia? On what basis do the American government and people claim to be the sole exception to the principles of history and of common sense that apply to everyone else? Is America too blinded by vainglorious pride to see that it is following the same downhill path that landed its old enemies in the dustbin of history?

Far better for the US to swallow its national pride, repent of its errors, and join hands with Serbia in heartfelt cooperation—so that al-Qaeda can be the next empire to die in the Balkans rather than America’s empire.


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>>>Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans? <<<<<

I do actually find this an interesting statement/question.

1 posted on 11/12/2004 5:28:07 AM PST by Calpernia
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ping. Thanks for the email!


2 posted on 11/12/2004 5:28:38 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

AlQuaidas sink-emperor in the whitehouse!!!


3 posted on 11/12/2004 5:34:37 AM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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To: Calpernia

I don't think the current administration knows or cares much about the Balkans. They want nothing to do with the place... which is fine by me. Hopefully there will be a withdrawal of the remaining US troops in the very near fuutre.


4 posted on 11/12/2004 5:52:46 AM PST by Gavrilo
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To: Mia T; Alamo-Girl

Interesting thoughts and tidbits here to bookmark for your research.


5 posted on 11/12/2004 5:56:24 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
>>>Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans? <<<<<

Good number of people in The State Department and Pentagon have earned the promotions and pension by spreading the lies about Serbs while at the same time aiding and abetting Al Qaeda network in the Balkans. They have vested interest in keeping status quo.

6 posted on 11/12/2004 6:12:40 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: Alamo-Girl

clinton legacy bump


7 posted on 11/12/2004 6:13:52 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: DTA

If this is true, I really hope Bush does the housecleaning I've heard rumors about this term.


9 posted on 11/12/2004 6:23:50 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
The Serbians are generally Orthodox Christian and were basically fighting Muslims in this time period. (are they good peaceful bible-believers?, they don't have to be, just more christian than their opponents)

Who do you think Democrats are going to side with? If it diminishes a hint of biblical Chrisianity or Judeo/Christian principles in any way, the Democrat liberals are for it.

The same reasons why liberals don't expose Islam in this country and even favored their calls to prayer in Michigan. It helps elevate another religion which they hope in the end will diminish the Christian underpinnings of our law and culture.

This pattern has been seen for many decades and is totally obivous.

10 posted on 11/12/2004 6:24:31 AM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man.)
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To: oso blanco; Calpernia

"SCORCHED EARTH POLICY"

BOOKMARKING


11 posted on 11/12/2004 6:25:10 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Old Landmarks; KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta; ...

A very interesting thread.

Ping


12 posted on 11/12/2004 6:27:30 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

That attack on Serbia made no sense at all. It was just to show mr. muslim how fair liberals are in this country. Liberals have no problem with the muslim governments, even Iraq, when they terrorize, rape and slaughter. Liberals are the biggest hypocites in existence.


13 posted on 11/12/2004 6:31:51 AM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man.)
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To: DTA

Well kinda. What about the Srebrenica massacre? The serbs really did invade that city, under UN protection, an kill the disarmed residents. What about the snipers?

I agree it's not one sided, but I don't think supporting Serbia and Milsovec was a sensible plan either.

It was a classic "CNN War" like all of Clintons. Fought to quiet the TV reports (Somolia).

And left out of this article is the role Soros played in the demonization of Serbia.


14 posted on 11/12/2004 6:38:58 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

And left out of this article is the role Soros played in the demonization of Serbia.

Do you have a link? Thanks.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 6:44:51 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Calpernia

Thank you, Calpernia.

I'm quite convinced that the US via Clinton was on the wrong side of the war on this one.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 6:58:51 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Jack Black
Well kinda. What about the Srebrenica massacre? The serbs really did invade that city, under UN protection, an kill the disarmed residents. What about the snipers?

What happened in Bosnia was a civil war, and like all civil wars it was brutal almost beyond our imaginings, the problem is that there is a focus directed at the Serbs to the exclusion of the Croats and the Moslems.
18 posted on 11/12/2004 7:11:48 AM PST by tjwmason ("The English, the English, the English are best; I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest")
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To: Calpernia

Good post!


19 posted on 11/12/2004 7:28:36 AM PST by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: oso blanco; Calpernia

Bump

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20 posted on 11/12/2004 7:31:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 11/12/2004 7:58:22 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: oso blanco

I don't know you, or anything about you, but something tells me you are right. Do you think the bombing of the Murrah Federal Bldg. in Oklahoma City was part of this? If so, will it see the light of day?


22 posted on 11/12/2004 8:01:15 AM PST by badbass
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To: badbass; oso blanco; All; JohnHuang2; FormerLurker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1222207/posts
The Oklahoma City bombing: Jack Cashill exposes early efforts by Clintons to exploit bombings
JohnHuang2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1225601/posts
Oklahoma City: The aftermath/Jack Cashill exposes how FBI helped White House cover up terrorism

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b27cd163df2.htm
Oklahoma City Bombing Cover-Up
FormerLurker
(This posts still have active video download links)


23 posted on 11/12/2004 8:18:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1144

By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 28, 1998
An "investigative" piece by Murray Waas and Jonathan Broder, has ratcheted up the Clinton assault on special prosecutor Ken Starr. (Disclosure: this author has never met or spoken to Ken Starr). The Salon piece purported to reveal that the "right-wing conspiracy" (aka Richard Mellon Scaife), provided cash payments to anti-Clinton witness David Hale. The payments were made through intermediaries running his "Arkansas Project" which apparently was a project to fund investigative reports by The American Spectator into various threads of the Clinton scandals. A follow-up piece by the same reporters explained: "The nagging problem for Starr is that the same Scaife-controlled foundations that funneled money to the Arkansas Project have also contributed more than $1 million to the Pepperdine University School of Public Policy in California, where Starr will become dean after he completes his duties as independent counsel. Following the money trail of the alleged payments to Hale inevitably would lead to Pepperdine benefactor Scaife."

As I have pointed out before, the Pepperdine connection does not rise to being a tenuous thread of conspiracy. It flatly contradicts the conspiracy assumption. Richard Scaife famously underwrote journalist Chris Ruddys efforts to insinuate that Vince Foster was murdered, the very hypothesis Starrs own investigation and report shot down. Equally indigestible for the conspiracy hypothesis is the fact that if Starr had taken the Pepperdine job when and as it was offered, there would be no Starr investigation of Monica Lewinsky, Kathleen Willey, Vernon Jordan et al. If one nonetheless insists on a conspiracy explanation of these events, then the only plausible interpretation of Scaifes gift to Pepperdine would be that he wanted to buy Starr off the case because he thought Starr was not pursuing his investigation of Clinton malfeasance aggressively enough. This, indeed, was the conventional conservative wisdom before the Clintons launched their scorched earth campaign against Starr a first strike that seems to have forced him into an aggressive mode out of sheer self-defense.

Janet Reno, Clintons attorney general, has now taken up the Broder-Waas lead. But others, less obligated to Clinton, may wonder about the reliability of their story about Judge Hale. The chief sources of this story (which Hale denies) are an ex-girlfriend of one of the Arkansas project sleuths and her son. The ex-girlfriend is a psychic who claims to know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried. This doesnt mean her story is conjured, but one would have more confidence if the reporter wasnt Murray Waas, one of the conspiracy hounds who has tried unsuccessfully to persuade the journalistic fraternity and the rest of the country that Ronald Reagan and George Bush are responsible for the crack cocaine epidemic in our inner cities.

Heres a question for the editors of Salon: Where did the Broder-Waas story actually originate? Was Murray Waas in contact with the Clinton camp before they wrote the story? Did he visit the White House and get a briefing on the "Arkansas Project?" Is he on Sidney Blumenthals direct feed? Salons rival, Slate, has already reported seeing Waas, Broder, and Waass other Scaife-conspiracy writing partner, Joe Conason, at a Salon party with Blumenthal. At this festivity, Waas and Blumenthal were seen to step outside for a private consult. Its an intriguing possibility, and Im just asking.

Having asked, I guess it is now incumbent on me, in the present political atmosphere, to engage in a ritual disclaimer: I am not now and have never been a member of any right-wing conspiracy. If I had failed to swear as much, in the current atmosphere of suspicion generated by the Clinton hot-air machine, I would subject to automatic dis-creditation. I would also, in all likelihood, be the target of yet another letter from Waas cohort and Clinton apologist Joe Conason, similar to the one he sent to me after my last column:

"Unlike Horowitz, Im just a journalist, not a hired propagandist. My views are my own. I have never taken a penny from anyone resembling Richard Mellon Scaife, on the left, right or center, let alone the White House or any of its friends. But Horowitz himself dines regularly at the Scaife trough. Just for the record: Between 1994 and 1996 Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture received at least $1.75 million from the Sarah Scaife Foundation, one of the two tax-exempt entities that funded the anti-Clinton Arkansas Project.

The records for 1997 are not publicly available yet. So tell us, David, how much did Scaife give your outfit last year? How much are you getting this year, while you defend the poor, beleaguered billionaire in the pages of Salon? And how big a tip do you expect next year, in recognition of services rendered?"

This is a nice hit. Richard Scaife, who it should be noted was also (and ecumenically) a leader of the campaign to topple Richard Nixon, has been funding conservative policy projects and intellectuals for decades. Given Scaifes resources, these are not as numerous as the liberal and left-wing projects funded by Rockefeller, Ford and MacArthur, but they are considerable and would include most of the conservative intellectuals engaged in the nations debates over policy and ideas. How convenient, if ones purpose is to link and destroy by association every conservative in sight, especially if one doesnt have an actual conspiracy like a Communist Party to make the links. (Richard Scaife, it must be reiterated, has so far not been accused let alone convicted of anything more terrible than funding investigative reporting into the shadowy activities that the Clintons have spent millions of tax-payer dollars in an effort to cover up. (Just to invoke a less partisan opinion, according to Stuart Taylor, writing in the National Journal of March 21, "[there is] powerful evidence ... implicating the President of the United States in dozens of perjuries [and] efforts to obstruct justice and cover up" matters both sexual and financial. Taylor voted for Clinton.)

Conasons accusation that I am a "hired propagandist" is actionable, but unlike his friend, Sid Blumenthal, Im not a particularly litigious fellow and I think these matters should be left to the arena of public debate. Anyone who has followed my long public career or read my autobiography, Radical Son, knows at what personal cost I have arrived at my present opinions. They could probably guess, therefore, that having paid so high a price to remain faithful to what I have learned and believe, I would be a poor candidate at this late stage in life for a career as a hired gun.

It is true that, like the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, the Institute for Justice, and similar efforts, my Center for the Study of Popular Culture has received funding from the Scaife charities, all public, all on the record. But there is an irony even in this fact. In addition to monies that the Center receives from the Sarah Scaife Foundation, Scaifes personal fund, the Carthage Foundation, regularly gave the Center $250,000 annually prior to the launching of the Arkansas project. In 1995? that sum went to zero, as Scaife apparently directed his resources into the investigation of the Clintons. In other words, my operation lost money as a result of the campaign that Joe Conason thinks I am an enthusiastic participant in.

Personally, as I have elsewhere noted, I have met Richard Scaife the man so unjustly maligned only twice in my life, and not at all since the launching of the Arkansas adventure. I have not had one conversation with Richard Scaife or with any officer of the Sarah Scaife Foundation since the fall of last year, before the Matt Drudge suit and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Moreover, despite my low opinion of Bill Clinton the man, I had not written a single anti-Clinton paragraph during the first six years of his presidency. It was only when my effort to provide legal help for Matt Drudge, elicited attacks on me from the Clinton camp that I was thrust unavoidably into the fray.

Heres a more hopeful irony. In the midst of this descent into the least attractive practices of the nations political past, the brightest spot for me, at least is Salons ecumenical provision of a platform from which I can write these columns and respond to these slanders.

The present political donnybrook affords us many examples of why a two-party system and a multi-vocal dialogue are essential to a democracy like ours. It was conservatives who were the original targets of the special prosecutors office and the sexual harassment laws, and who were its original critics. It was liberals, on the other hand, who were the archetypal victims of McCarthy-like witch-hunts, and accusations of guilt-by-association. Now the shoes are on the other feet. We would all do well to take a deep breath, and think twice about this, before we rush precipitously to judgment about conspirators and conspiracies.


24 posted on 11/12/2004 8:26:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; oso blanco; winodog
January 15 1999

Kosovo province, Serbia

Racak Massacre hoax staged by Clinton Administration . It was later used as an excuse to bomb Serbia.

January 15, 1999 Washington, DC

President Clinton Impeachment Trial.

Rep. Bill McCollum brings the House's factual presentation to a close.

Rep. George Gekas begins outlining the legal grounds for removing the president.


25 posted on 11/12/2004 8:46:15 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: Calpernia; Destro; redrock; Jeff Head; blackie; Joe Hadenuf; B4Ranch

"Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?"

That's the question I've been asking for 4 years.

Milosovic had this to say about uncontrolled "migration" by the islamic Albanians. Whatever we think of Milosovic, he's right on this.


A reminder of the words of Slobadan Milosevic from his International Court trial transcript on 9/27/02:

“So he is holding a head, the head of a Serb that he cut off. So those are the 20,000 Mujahedin that were brought to the European theatre of war through Clinton's policy, and most of them remained there and some went to America and to other countries, and they went all around Europe. And then when they start beheading your own people in wars to come, then you will know what this is all about."


Milosevic quote from internat'l court transcript:

http://www.un.org/icty/transe54/020927ED.htm

Scroll down to Page 10307, beginning with line 23.


27 posted on 11/12/2004 9:10:09 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: oso blanco

Interesting. Thanks.


28 posted on 11/12/2004 9:12:14 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB

bttt


29 posted on 11/12/2004 9:16:25 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

" And then when they start beheading your own people in wars to come, then you will know what this is all about."

I first read this line within days of the Nick Berg beheading. Milosovic may well be a monster, but his words are prophetic. The Serbian people understand what happens with uncontrolled "migration". They are now 10% of their country, the rest Albanian muslims.
But then what happened in Serbia has been another one of those "untouchable" subjects.


30 posted on 11/12/2004 9:21:58 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB

People that say "Milosovic may well be a monster," are no more less guilty than the people that cretaed that hoax


31 posted on 11/12/2004 10:19:14 AM PST by Truth666
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To: Truth666

I hope to learn more about Milosovic. I haven't formed an opinion.


32 posted on 11/12/2004 10:31:15 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: Truth666
People that say "Milosovic may well be a monster," are no more less guilty than the people that cretaed that hoax

Hey, some people loved Slobo!

33 posted on 11/12/2004 11:29:11 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: Calpernia
Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

It's rare that one administration will go back and "denounce" what a previous administration did in terms of foreign policy. We're going to see a gradual decrease in US troop numbers in the Balkans, but don't expect an apology from the White House.

35 posted on 11/12/2004 11:39:44 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: oso blanco
but replacing [Milosevic] with groups linked to al Qaida was downright stupid

Slobo & his wife Mira were two of the biggest beneficiaries in Europe of Saddam's oil voucher program. Go to this list of voucher beneficiaries and scroll down to Yugoslavia. The Socialist Party (1 million barrels) was headed by Milosevic and the Yugoslav Left Party (Communist--9.5 million barrels) was headed by Slobo's wife Mira.

Slobo was also buddies with Arafat & Qaddafi and Yugoslavia had a nice business evading sanctions and selling arms to Iraq. So--at the risk of imposing major cognitive dissonance--Slobo had a lot more to do with Arab terrorists than did the vast majority of his enemies--whether they be Croats, Bosniaks, or Albanians.

36 posted on 11/12/2004 12:10:02 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: Calpernia
Unanswered Questions in the Balkans:

Where is the evidence of “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo - and where are those “mass graves”?

Unanswered for only those who choose to deceive themselves or avoid researching the issue.

37 posted on 11/12/2004 12:14:02 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: AuntB
Milosovic had this to say about uncontrolled "migration" by the islamic Albanians. Whatever we think of Milosovic, he's right on this. A reminder of the words of Slobadan Milosevic from his International Court trial transcript on 9/27/02: “So he is holding a head, the head of a Serb that he cut off. So those are the 20,000 Mujahedin that were brought to the European theatre of war through Clinton's policy, and most of them remained there and some went to America and to other countries, and they went all around Europe. And then when they start beheading your own people in wars to come, then you will know what this is all about." Milosevic quote from internat'l court transcript: http://www.un.org/icty/transe54/020927ED.htm Scroll down to Page 10307, beginning with line 23.

Uh, Aunt B, did you read the link you posted? You've got the right quote, but it has nothing to do with Albanians or "uncontrolled migration"; you've got the wrong war, wrong people, wrong topic, wrong year. Although the consistent part is Slobo was involved in war crimes in both Bosnia & Kosovo, so you're OK there.

But look at this!! On your link, scroll down to the next page (10308) where Slobo says:

This has nothing do with Muslims. These are Islamic fundamentalists who are the enemies of the entire world. Not only of Christians or some others but of Muslims as well.

Who'd of thunk it? Even Slobo says it the fundamentalists, not Isalm itself that is the problem. I think the court took a break shortly after this or they might have heard him call it "The Religion of Peace!"

38 posted on 11/12/2004 12:42:14 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: Modernman

>>>but don't expect an apology from the White House.

I would never expect an apology from the White House.

I would expect an investigation into the prior administration and charges to be applied for criminal activity or treason if founded.


39 posted on 11/12/2004 12:42:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
I would expect an investigation into the prior administration and charges to be applied for criminal activity or treason if founded.

Don't expect that, either.

41 posted on 11/12/2004 12:44:16 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

I pray you are wrong.


42 posted on 11/12/2004 12:46:43 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DTA

Racak happened.
The Serbian Police gathered up the men and executed them in a ditch.
I know because I was there. I watched the attack all day and was in Racak within 30 minutes of the Serbs leaving.

After that and a few other incidents in Jan 99, the Serbs got what they desrved.


43 posted on 11/12/2004 1:00:06 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: oso blanco
Clinton's handing Eastern Europe over to al Qaeda was stupid.

"handing...Eastern Europe to Al Qaeda???????" The major Al Qaeda bases were in Sudan & Afghanistan. The majority of AlQaeda members are from the Arab shield area with the rest mostly from N. Africa & the 'stans. Outside those areas, the 9-11 planning & prep was concentrated in Germany & the USA. Eastern Europe countries from Albania, Macedonia,& Bulgaria in the south on up to Poland in the north are providing troops in Iraq & Afghanistan and offering superb cooperation in the war on terror. So...say what?

44 posted on 11/12/2004 1:01:35 PM PST by mark502inf
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Uh-0h, Paratrooper. You're going to make some people's heads burst. We've got lots of Serb apologists & fellow travellers on this forum. It is an article of faith with them that Racak was a hoax. The normal story-line is that the Serbs didn't do it, besides nobody saw us do it, and the Albanians deserved it anyway. Welcome aboard.

KVM?

45 posted on 11/12/2004 1:13:08 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: Paratrooper_501; mark502inf

KVM?? KLA? or RBJ?

There's more than one alternative.


46 posted on 11/12/2004 1:25:27 PM PST by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder! And please DON'T feed the trolls!)
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To: Paratrooper_501
>>>Since Nov 12, 2004<<<

Welcome to the FR.

It will be interesting to get your view. Hope you pack your chute by yourself :-)

47 posted on 11/12/2004 1:37:41 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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You forgot the alternative who actually committed the executions - MUP.

That is of course unless 200 KLA disguised themselves as Serbian Policemen (MUP) and attacked themselves supported by an armored company team from the Serbian Army. LOL

The KLA was not based in Racak. It was in a town several kilometers south of there.
48 posted on 11/12/2004 2:08:56 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: DTA

Thanks for the welcome.

The people in Racak were not KLA, but they did actively support and provide food, etc. to the KLA. The KLA was nearby, based in a town several kilometers south. The Serbian Police attacked and rather than try to differentiate KLA from civilian just executed all the men of military age. There were several KLA killed that day, but the KLA readily admitted to them.

Unless the Serbs are much better marksmen than our Soldiers I know these were all executions since nearly every man was shot in the head. Half of them, 24 if I remember correctly, were shot in the head, in a group, in a ditch. The remainder were scattered. I documented each one and the person I was with took pictures, so I know this to be factual.


49 posted on 11/12/2004 2:17:39 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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