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Police Use of Stun Guns on Children Riles Parents(Officers Taser Boy, 6, and Girl, 12)
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Posted on 11/13/2004 1:40:34 PM PST by freepatriot32

MIAMI (Nov. 13) - Miami-Dade police have acknowledged using a stun gun on a second youngster just weeks after subduing a 55-pound first-grader with a 50,000-volt shock.

In the second instance, a 15-year-veteran officer used his Taser to immobilize a 12-year-old girl who was playing hooky from school.

Police Director Bobby Parker defended the decision to shock the 6-year-old boy on Oct. 20 because he was threatening to injure himself with a shard of glass he was holding, but he said Friday that he could not defend the decision to shock the fleeing girl, who was apparently drunk.

According to the incident report, officer William Nelson responded to a complaint that children were swimming in a pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars about 11 a.m. on Nov. 5.

Nelson said he noticed the girl was intoxicated and told her to get dressed so he could take her back to school.

"While walking the girl to the police car, she took off running through the parking lot," Nelson wrote in his report.

Nelson, 38, said he chased her and yelled several times for her to stop. Nelson said he pulled out the Taser and fired when the girl began to run into traffic. The electric probes hit the girl in the neck and lower back, immobilizing her with 50,000 volts.

Nelson said he fired "for my safety along with the girl's safety." Paramedics treated the girl, who went home with her mother.

Parker said department policy permits officers to use the Taser to apprehend someone, but he said he expected his officers to use better judgment, especially when police had no plans to arrest someone playing hooky.

The first incident had already exposed the department to more criticism for its use of Tasers, which it has begun distributing in greater numbers to officers.

"The police could have handled this better," said the 6-year-old boy's mother, Kathy Rojas. "They did not have to shoot him."

Parker said that, in light of the disclosure of the second incident, the department will review its policy.


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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: freepatriot32
I pray that all people reap what they sow. ...an eye-for-an-eye curse on all who promote officious misconduct and gluttony.
62 posted on 11/13/2004 3:34:58 PM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Calusa
"I really wanna see those parents' faces on the six o'clock news."

Parents? Plural?

I have this funny feeling that the father of the 12-year-old is long gone.

63 posted on 11/13/2004 3:35:31 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Colorado Doug

Yes --- it sounds like these kids are already so bizarre --- I wonder if they're ritalin kids --- they might as well get used to being tasered.


64 posted on 11/13/2004 3:38:02 PM PST by FITZ
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To: WFTR
In both instances if the children would have been acting appropriately none of this would have happened. I think they should go taser the parents too.
65 posted on 11/13/2004 3:43:56 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Mulder
As the mindset of the many police officers (a growing number) continues to be one of an occupying soldier instead of a peace officer, fewer and fewer citizens will give them the benefit of the doubt in the scenarios.

While given the facts as I read them, I don't see any problem with a juvenile delinquent brat getting tased for resisting arrest, I fully agree with you regarding the para-militarization of our police forces. Military and police missions are different and wide separation is necessary in a free society. In other words, no jack booted thugs needed.

67 posted on 11/13/2004 3:51:40 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: lucky7

No... you have weak, nancy boy cops who cannot deal with a 6 year old child without a 50,000 volt shock.


68 posted on 11/13/2004 4:07:49 PM PST by protest1
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To: robertpaulsen
Whaddya say? On drugs and pregnant by the time she's 14?

Overdosed or in a car wreck and dead by 16. Maybe killing someone else's family while she's at it.

69 posted on 11/13/2004 4:15:05 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: tuffydoodle

"It's cold, rainy and a Saturday. My kids are lucky that I don't have a taser right now.

I'm so tired of refereeing fights that I may just have to leave and go shopping."

Nope. Sorry. You don't understand. They are only "harmless" in the hands of a police officer who uses them on a child.

In YOUR hands they would constitute child abuse and you would be arrested for same.



70 posted on 11/13/2004 4:38:17 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: F15Eagle
told her to get dressed

My mistake, I guess that makes her parents Dr. Phil and Oprah, and the Policeman is Attila the Hun.

71 posted on 11/13/2004 4:39:28 PM PST by Calusa (Bush cooked Kerry's Goose!)
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To: TalBlack

I think I failed in my attempt at humor. Unfortunately, that's not unusual.


72 posted on 11/13/2004 4:51:29 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: Spann_Tillman

It's a matter of responsibility if I mess up I get busted. Law enforcement is a Service, they are doing their job. Without it the ants inherit the earth.


74 posted on 11/13/2004 5:12:44 PM PST by Calusa (Bush cooked Kerry's Goose!)
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To: CindyDawg

Could you please explain in specific detail, step by step, how you would have taken down an angry six-year-old waving around a sharp piece of glass with which he's already cut himself a few times, without using a Taser?


75 posted on 11/13/2004 5:13:33 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: protest1
No... you have weak, nancy boy cops who cannot deal with a 6 year old child without a 50,000 volt shock.

You'd rather have big burly cops snapping his little six-year-old bones and grinding his face into the pavement instead of dropping him with a Taser that leaves no lasting effects?

76 posted on 11/13/2004 5:20:24 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: TalBlack
Nope. Sorry. You don't understand. They are only "harmless" in the hands of a police officer who uses them on a child.

The kid in question was poised to do himself very serious, lasting injury with a shard of glass - he'd already cut his face near his eye - and stab and slice anyone who got near him.

A Taser isn't "harmless," but compared to severed tendons and arteries, it's about as close to harmless as it comes.

77 posted on 11/13/2004 5:23:04 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: TalBlack
My kids are lucky that I don't have a taser right now

I kinda got a kick out of your comment. . . but then, I used to play with charged capacitors and tesla coils when I was 12.

I didn't have much time for drinking and neckked pool parties during school days at the that age. Maybe I was just a stick in the mud.

79 posted on 11/13/2004 5:32:03 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: TalBlack; tuffydoodle

oops post 79 was meant for tuffydoodle


80 posted on 11/13/2004 5:34:21 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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