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This clown is a glutton for punishment.
1 posted on 11/13/2004 2:34:57 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

You'll know Libs get it when they support cutting back on sex education in school and substitue gun safety.


76 posted on 11/13/2004 3:25:11 PM PST by beebuster2000 (waiting waiting waiting)
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To: neverdem

Sheesh. Even when they get it, they still don't get it.


80 posted on 11/13/2004 3:27:46 PM PST by RogueIsland
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To: neverdem
Cherry Kool-aid instead of grape? The Dems might actually win an election or two if they'd get some professional help with this gun grabbing fixation.

And they call us gun nuts?!?

83 posted on 11/13/2004 3:34:31 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: neverdem
". . . but nervous Red Staters still suspected Democrats of plotting to seize guns."

Especially since s'kerry, bless his stoopid heart, had the dumbness to criticize Bush for not pushing for the AWB renewal just before election. Poor guy just had too many things going against him, inluding his 'advisors.' Heh. (Thanks, Clintons, but don't expect us to return the favor.)

89 posted on 11/13/2004 3:40:17 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: neverdem

The anti-gun whackos ALREADY tried this tactic many times before. Remember when Clinton had his boy, Emory University's (remember the other famous LIER from Emory who wote a FRAUDULENT "history" book on the 2nd Amendment and guns in America?) Dr. Arthur Kellerman on the inside at the CDC? He used junk science and cooked "studies" to help suggest that guns were a major health problem (forget the high number of patients killed through medical mistakes by "doctors" like Kellerman). When called on his questionable "findings" (i.e., a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to harm or kill the owner than it is to harm or kill an intruder - or something as RIDICULOUS as that), he never released his raw "data" for independent, unbiased verification. In other words, he was a lying WHORE for the Clinton/Reno/Schumer/Feinstein anti-gun machine. When dems can't get the licensing, registration, and confiscating of guns done through legislation, they ALWAYS run to the ambulance-chasers, activist judges, and pacifist medical QUACKS in an effort to make an end run around our 2nd Amendment rights. Too bad for them that we are already on to their game, and IT AIN'T GONNA FLY.


92 posted on 11/13/2004 3:42:40 PM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower

Proper musket handling?

93 posted on 11/13/2004 3:44:27 PM PST by risk
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To: neverdem

Ted Nugent Bump!


94 posted on 11/13/2004 3:44:28 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: neverdem

I forgot to add left-wing maggot, inner-city mayors and union police chiefs to the ambulance-chasers, activist judges, and pacifist medical QUACKS that the demonRATS turn to in their incremental march toward Draconian bans on our guns.


97 posted on 11/13/2004 3:48:04 PM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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This is the same BS socialist approach tried the American Medical Association years ago.

It failed then with a vengence.

Just the same old same old from the the Democrat (gay) party which has NO ideas.


98 posted on 11/13/2004 3:48:46 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: neverdem

oh yes forgot to mention. Even if the numbers are scraped off, they are still detectable due to the deep indentations of the metal.

Obviosly this poof has no concept of rights or firearms.


99 posted on 11/13/2004 3:51:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: neverdem
The new approach is to accept that handguns are part of the American landscape, but to use a public health approach to try to make them much safer.

What is it about guns and Democrats? They simply are unable to get it. Guns are made to kill and it is impossible to make the gun itself any safer. Gun control has never been about keeping people from accidentally shooting someone, it's always been about taking guns away from everyone. Anyone who thinks Kerry would have been elected had it not been for gun control is an idiot. Had Kerry been pro guns he would not be a liberal. It's about being Liberal, not about the details of liberal issues.

100 posted on 11/13/2004 3:52:08 PM PST by Casloy
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"You can tell whether a camera is loaded by looking at it, and you should be able to tell whether a gun is loaded by looking at it," said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Professor Hemenway has written "Private Guns, Public Health," a brilliant and clear-eyed primer for the country.

We take safety steps that reduce the risks of everything from chain saws (so they don't kick back and cut off an arm) to refrigerators (so kids can't lock themselves inside). But firearms have been exempt. Companies make cellphones that survive if dropped"

...but none of these items are protected by an Amendment in the Bill of Rights.

--Boris

109 posted on 11/13/2004 4:04:55 PM PST by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: neverdem
Nothing kills Democratic candidates' prospects more than guns. If it weren't for guns,
President-elect Kerry might now be conferring with incoming Senate Majority
Leader Daschle.


Louder, Mr. Kristof!

That way you morons won't figure out that it was The Massachussetts Supreme
Court and the Mayor of San Francisco that cooked your goose.

Even Democratic pollster Pat Caddell warned y'all in the spring that this
was the simmering issue that could cost Kerry the election and y'all
didn't listen then.

I pray to G-d that y'all stay deaf, indefinitely.
112 posted on 11/13/2004 4:16:24 PM PST by VOA
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To: neverdem; Smokin' Joe




Thanks for the logo Safrguns!

118 posted on 11/13/2004 5:17:32 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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To: neverdem
One poll showed that 88 percent of the public favors requiring that guns be childproof

Mandatory sentencing for the idiots that allow children access to guns should take care of the problem.

129 posted on 11/13/2004 8:02:37 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: neverdem

the number-one most effective gun safety measure:
a properly trained firearms operator.

the stats re: accidental discharge indicate that an NRA trained gunner is nowhere near as likely to cause such an accident as is a gunner with no NRA training. I forget the ration, but it was pretty impressive.


132 posted on 11/13/2004 9:06:49 PM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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but some handguns can fire if they hit the ground.

This is garbage.

This was dealt with years ago.

There are some older ones that this may apply to but modern handguns will not fire unless the trigger is pulled, unless defective.

The government passed regulations requiring all handguns to pass a drop test around 1970.

134 posted on 11/13/2004 10:56:58 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: neverdem; PJ-Comix
Alex Penelas, the once and future governor/Senator of Florida, tried the "public health" approach to gun control when I was living in Miami-Dade county back in 1999-2000. Thankfully, he got spanked by the state legislature for trying to counteract state law, and his "public health" argument, similar to what Kristof advocates in this article, failed with the "public."

The good news in that case is that Alex Penelas, who was considered THE rising star in the Florida Democratic Party, has since seen his star fizzle and will probably next be seen doing a McGreevey due to his personal predelictions. Nevertheless, his career was cut short at least partially by his advocacy of gun control for the "public health" a few years back.

135 posted on 11/13/2004 11:07:42 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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The NYT just doesn't get it.

Clueless.


136 posted on 11/13/2004 11:26:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: neverdem
Here's a comment and a question for freepers: The Democratic Party will "re-make" itself in the wake of their most recent debacle. They now realize that the question concerning their record on firearms has haunted them for over 10 years. Actually much longer if you go back to the 1968 GCA.

IF they concede that handguns are a part of the fabric of American society, and they embrace this......what will be the reaction of the US public to an initiative by their leaders in Congress to push and pass legislation that would allow for total federal reciprocity for holders of concealed firearms permits under the 14th Amendment's Full Faith and Credit clause as well as the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection clause AND of course the Second Amendment? Meaning of course, that if your drivers license is good in another and all other states, so too, is your concealed weapons permit.

If they REALLY REALLY push this and successfully pass it with a majority, maybe even a super majority in House and Senate, then I'd say they have a good chance at regaining the White House next term, if their candidate also embraces the legislation. Maybe even with a comfortable majority of the votes. Even more so if they remain quiet and neutral on the issue of "assault weapons."

138 posted on 11/14/2004 6:24:26 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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