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This clown is a glutton for punishment.
1 posted on 11/13/2004 2:34:57 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Good gravy. They still don't get it. First it was moral issues. Then it was gay marriage. Now it's guns.

The '06 and '08 elections are shaping up just fine.

2 posted on 11/13/2004 2:37:40 PM PST by Texas Eagle ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of what he was never reasoned into." Jonathan Swift)
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To: neverdem
What a Lock and Load
3 posted on 11/13/2004 2:38:13 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: neverdem

They will never get it!LOL


4 posted on 11/13/2004 2:39:28 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; Joe Brower

BANG


5 posted on 11/13/2004 2:39:52 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Wouldn't it be much easier to make word processors "media proof"?


6 posted on 11/13/2004 2:41:26 PM PST by Dalite (... Comment to all)
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To: neverdem

Guess Nick never heard of "Treat EVERY gun as loaded.".


8 posted on 11/13/2004 2:43:30 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

The NYT shows its ignorance (again) by printing a bunch of stupid suggestions that were old 20 years ago.


9 posted on 11/13/2004 2:43:45 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem
Actually he DOES get it--it's his solution that's all wrong. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating his position at all. But he is doing for guns what would be the equivalent of Pro-Lifers throwing in the towel. He's saying the Dems are perceived as having all the wrong answers and can't just SAY things differently or shoot a couple of geese. They have to start changing.

I completely disagree with his position and his answers, but this is the one Dem I've read recently who is saying "We have to change or our party will die." Fortunately, no one will listen, and those who listen will, as he does, come up with the wrong answers.

11 posted on 11/13/2004 2:44:16 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (If it is not fearful, it is not worthwhile. - Paul Tornier)
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To: neverdem
This is the same f'head who lied about guns in Michigan.

but to use a public health approach to try to make them much safer.
This shows his true colors right there. "Guns are a disease" according to the public health fascists(and that's exactly what the public health lobby is).

"You can tell whether a camera is loaded by looking at it, and you should be able to tell whether a gun is loaded by looking at it,"
Guns are always loaded, dummy. They must let anyone into Harvard nowadays.

Require magazine safeties so a gun cannot be fired when the clip is removed (people can forget that a bullet may still be in the chamber and pull the trigger). Many guns already have magazine safeties, but not all.
One of the first training rules is remembering that in semiautos, there's one in the chamber.

This innovation would protect children - and thwart criminals.
Will the cops use smart guns?

This guy needs to get bitchslapped again in 2006

12 posted on 11/13/2004 2:44:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("No time for losers, cause we are the champions...of the world!!!")
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To: neverdem

So what's wrong with these ideas?

Guns could and should be made safer.

Although attempts to ban older "unsafe" guns should be resisted, I see no reason why we should knee-jerk reject the very idea of making guns safer.


13 posted on 11/13/2004 2:44:19 PM PST by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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you should be able to tell whether a gun is loaded by looking at it," said David Hemenway

How about this, Dave? If you see a gun, it's LOADED!! The rest of us seem to be able to comprehend that, even if you can't.

14 posted on 11/13/2004 2:44:43 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: neverdem
Lock and load.
15 posted on 11/13/2004 2:45:57 PM PST by ol painless (ol' painless is out of the bag)
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To: neverdem

Lost in the political wilderness without a map, compass or flashlight.

They are toast.


16 posted on 11/13/2004 2:46:34 PM PST by najida (Owner of a certified pair of Austrian Peasant Hips.....Patent Pending.)
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To: neverdem
I like the idea of gun safety classes in every school a lot more. I hope the nee AG gets very aggressive in restoring 2nd amendment rights for every person in the union. I noticed he is from TX. I hope that is a good sign.
18 posted on 11/13/2004 2:46:39 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem

So now leftist girlymen are advising firearms manufacturers. Cool. Maybe colorblind nudists should start advising the fashion industry


19 posted on 11/13/2004 2:47:30 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: neverdem
Create a national database for gun deaths.

how about one for hiv infections while they're at it...
20 posted on 11/13/2004 2:47:40 PM PST by mental
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To: neverdem

BTTT


21 posted on 11/13/2004 2:48:14 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: neverdem

A magazine is not a clip, and vice versa.


23 posted on 11/13/2004 2:48:36 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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Create a national database for gun deaths

There it is! Took a little bit to get to but I knew it'd show up.

27 posted on 11/13/2004 2:51:30 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: neverdem
The model is automobiles, for a high rate of traffic deaths was once thought to be inevitable. But then we figured out ways to mitigate the harm with seat belts, air bags and collapsible steering columns, and since the 1950's the death rate per mile driven has dropped 80 percent.

And we have fewer traffic accidents? Substantially fewer deaths?

Reliance on simply making equipment more complicated to save lives does not work. Operator training is the key.

Driver's Ed (now removed from many school systems in favor of putting condoms on cucumbers) did help people be more competent drivers.

Firearms safety education eliminates accidents. More complicated firearms are of questionable value.

If all firearms are considered loaded all the time (rule no. 1), no one gets shot unintentionally.

If you depend on gee-gaws to make you safe, you are dead and you don't even know it.

28 posted on 11/13/2004 2:52:07 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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