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On the trail of Kerry's failed dream
The Boston Globe ^ | November 14, 2004 | Nina J. Easton, Michael Kranish, Patrick Healy, Glen Johnson, Anne E. Kornblut, and Brian Mooney

Posted on 11/14/2004 1:08:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

On the afternoon of Aug. 9, John F. Kerry stood on the lip of the Grand Canyon, about to make one of the biggest mistakes of his three-year quest for the presidency. A stiff wind was blowing across the canyon, and Kerry, whose hearing was damaged by gun blasts in Vietnam, had trouble understanding some of the questions being thrown his way. But he pressed on, coughing from the pollen blowing on the breeze.

Would Kerry have voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq, one reporter asked, even if he knew then that Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction? "Yes, I would have voted for the authority; I believe it's the right authority for a president to have," Kerry replied, as aides stood by, dumbfounded.

Kerry's answer ricocheted around the political world. Faced with the revelation that almost all the prewar arguments for invading Iraq were wrong -- the existence of weapons of mass destruction, close links to Al Qaeda -- President Bush had nonetheless insisted that he would do nothing differently. And he had been challenging Kerry to do the same, hoping to catch the Democrat changing his position on the unpopular war.

The senator explained to aides that part of the question had been lost in the wind; he thought he was answering a variation on the same basic query he'd been asked countless times: Was it right to give Bush the authority to go to war against Iraq? Kerry had simply given his standard "yes," with the proviso that he would have "done this very differently from the way President Bush has" -- yet the misunderstanding now muddied Kerry's message.

Worried advisers briefly considered issuing a clarification, but feared it might further feed Republican efforts to portray Kerry as a "flip-flopper."

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: campaign; election; hearingloss; huh; kerry; kerrydefeat; kerryiraq; swiftboatveterans
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1 posted on 11/14/2004 1:08:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Kerry, whose hearing was damaged by gun blasts in Vietnam"

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Will they NEVER STOP?!?!?

Yo, John Kerry, go back to Vietnam, and stay there!


2 posted on 11/14/2004 1:11:07 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
On the afternoon of Aug. 9, John F. Kerry stood on the lip of the Grand Canyon, about to make one of the biggest mistakes of his three-year quest for the presidency

Jump John, Jump!


3 posted on 11/14/2004 1:11:32 AM PST by elizabetty
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To: jocon307

"Kerry, whose hearing was damaged by gun blasts in Vietnam..."

I thought that Kerry didn't sign the 180 to release his medical records?


4 posted on 11/14/2004 1:17:04 AM PST by huac
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To: elizabetty

5 posted on 11/14/2004 1:18:53 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: elizabetty

6 posted on 11/14/2004 1:20:49 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Faced with the revelation that almost all the prewar arguments for invading Iraq were wrong -- the existence of weapons of mass destruction, close links to Al Qaeda"


Journalistic fraud. Opinion stated as if it were fact. Journalist to be terminated, Editor sent back to retake Journalism 101.


7 posted on 11/14/2004 1:21:19 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Next up, US Senate. 60 in 06!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Geeee the election won by a bit of pollen and a puff of wind....Gesundheit !!!!
8 posted on 11/14/2004 1:21:34 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Worried advisers briefly considered issuing a clarification, but feared it might further feed Republican efforts to portray Kerry as a "flip-flopper...""

...so instead, jfk decides not to honestly address the American people and tell them what he would do in time of war were he Commander-in-Chief. And the DNC wonders why their man lost. These lefties just keep giving and giving...


9 posted on 11/14/2004 1:22:28 AM PST by huac
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To: texasflower

Ha ha ha ha ha ha...


10 posted on 11/14/2004 1:24:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sort of the John Kerry/campaign2004 obituary written by his local Boston Globe hallelujah chorus. A long piece to be sure.

"We came here not to bury Kerry but to praise him"


11 posted on 11/14/2004 1:25:52 AM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: MNJohnnie
... Opinion stated as if it were fact. ....

-by all SIX "journalists."

12 posted on 11/14/2004 1:25:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dennisw
The postmortem.
13 posted on 11/14/2004 1:26:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cutterjohnmhb; huac
....Gesundheit !!!!

Who knew? Allergies, hearing loss..... what else?

14 posted on 11/14/2004 1:27:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"enabled the GOP to portray him as weak and inconsistent."

ENABLED? Nice try. Back to spinning class. The words they avoided to honestly complete this sentence include "allowed" or "demanded" or "accurately"...


15 posted on 11/14/2004 1:29:05 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why the obsession with who did you say?. We're done with him. Move along people.


16 posted on 11/14/2004 1:30:21 AM PST by uMayBeRight
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Took 6 to write this crap?


17 posted on 11/14/2004 1:30:28 AM PST by skaterboy
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To: jocon307; elizabetty
The minority.


One week after his presidential defeat, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), D-Mass., center, meets with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., right, and Senate Minority Whip Harry Reid, D-Nev., left, on Tuesday, Nov. 9, 2004 in Washington. They were expected to discuss a range of issues from Social Security (news - web sites) to stem-cell research. Reid is expected to succeed Sen. Tom Daschle, who lost his South Dakota seat, as the Democratic leader in the Senate. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

18 posted on 11/14/2004 1:31:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
On the afternoon of Aug. 9, John F. Kerry stood on the lip of the Grand Canyon, about to make one of the biggest mistakes of his three-year quest for the presidency. A stiff wind was blowing across the canyon, and Kerry, whose hearing was damaged by gun blasts in Vietnam, had trouble understanding some of the questions being thrown his way. But he pressed on, coughing from the pollen blowing on the breeze.

Well I've heard some lame excuses, but this tops the list. Kerry lost people, get over it...

19 posted on 11/14/2004 1:33:20 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Oh the pollen. the pollen"

Say as Kurtz in Apocalypse Now


20 posted on 11/14/2004 1:33:48 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: dennisw

"We came here not to bury Kerry but to praise him"


yes, yes, well put!


21 posted on 11/14/2004 1:34:55 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well we can add memory loss,such as Christmas in Cambodia
22 posted on 11/14/2004 1:35:00 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: huac; uMayBeRight; skaterboy

The entire piece is one big excuse for Kerry.

Everyone was bad to him.

It's a long piece with passages like this:

***John Kerry is not a man who indulges in emotional highs and lows. When he is angry, he is a master of the cold eyes, the stony mien, the slow burn, which are often delivered as he places his hands on your shoulder or moves his face up close to yours and expresses some measure of disapproval. Aides went to great lengths to avoid those moments.***


23 posted on 11/14/2004 1:36:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
... add memory loss...

Bump!

24 posted on 11/14/2004 1:37:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Divine intervention--that this fop did not become POTUS


25 posted on 11/14/2004 1:37:29 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"explaining that Kerry was concerned about the impact on troops in the field..." = "Kerry's 2003 vote against the $87 billion to fund US troops in Iraq was likewise cast in the context of a presidential race..." ???

I love these guys. Give them a shovel and they won't quit digging until their grave is done...


26 posted on 11/14/2004 1:37:34 AM PST by huac
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To: dennisw
Now, as Kerry campaign strategists try to fathom his Nov. 2 loss, one word emerges out of the rubble: war. History suggested the difficulties of beating a wartime president, even one with a job approval rating under 50 percent. But Kerry's own tortured relationship to war, dating to his youth, enabled the GOP to portray him as weak and inconsistent.

On Vietnam, Kerry had been both war hero and antiwar protester: Angry veterans were able to turn those contrasting roles into an attack on the candidate's character with a $25 million dollar ad campaign in swing states.

A lie!

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth spent $11,836,949

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/irs_ef_527.exe?DoFn=&sYR=2004

And I looked and saw no other 527 that could have added to the Swift Vets to reach this $25 million dollar figure

 

27 posted on 11/14/2004 1:38:12 AM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The announcement generated a flurry of excited coverage, featuring Edwards's photogenic family.

Ummmmmmm . . . Elizabeth Edwards is photogenic? That's news to me.

28 posted on 11/14/2004 1:38:41 AM PST by gop_gene
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Not one place in this 7,600 word article is the name Ted Kennedy mentioned.


29 posted on 11/14/2004 1:41:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

"Geeee the election won by a bit of pollen and a puff of wind....Gesundheit !!!!"

Ok, make up your mind, one person has him jumping, and another wishing health upon him.


30 posted on 11/14/2004 1:42:26 AM PST by uMayBeRight
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To: huac
"Kerry's 2003 vote against the $87 billion to fund US troops in Iraq was likewise cast in the context of a presidential race..." ??? Could that be dyslexia? Voting for it before voting against it? He's a walking malady.
31 posted on 11/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ted is the biggest loser from all this. Kerry was his protege and his team led the way. The impact is so great that noone in the MSM will even mention his name.


32 posted on 11/14/2004 1:43:11 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"The room was decorated with Parisian watercolors of ostriches and kittens..."

This is important... I don't know why, but it is...


33 posted on 11/14/2004 1:44:14 AM PST by huac
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To: texasflower

Many times over FOFLMAO


34 posted on 11/14/2004 1:44:19 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: uMayBeRight

HaHaHa, mom always told me to be polite, even if you dislike the sob....


35 posted on 11/14/2004 1:46:37 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: wildcatf4f3

I'm not sure which freeper made that second one, but I just had to post it again!


36 posted on 11/14/2004 1:46:49 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry...hearing damaged...coughing from pollen

Will they ever stop making excuses for their crappy candidate who was most likely ineligible to be president because he got a dishonorable discharge from the Navy?

Refer to Harvard's reason for not admitting John Kerry to the law school.
37 posted on 11/14/2004 1:47:28 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Its a long read, but worth it.
Here's a printer friendly version

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/11/14/on_the_trail_of_kerrys_failed_dream?mode=PF


38 posted on 11/14/2004 1:47:46 AM PST by konaice
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To: gop_gene

They were probably refering to the gorgeous "Silky Pony". If you don't believe me go to : http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/, then down to "The Choice". Talk about photogenic...


39 posted on 11/14/2004 1:48:14 AM PST by huac
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To: wildcatf4f3


U.S. Sens. John Kerry, left, and Edward Kennedy have had their differences -- including staff feuds -- but Kennedy put those aside and lent some of his top aides to help run his fellow Massachusetts Democrat's presidential campaign.

Kennedy backing doesn't hurt Kerry Presidential candidate's centrist voting separates him from party liberal


Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) gives a thumbs up to the crowd as Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass. looks on after Kerry's concession speech in Boston's Faneuil Hall, Wednesday, Nov. 3, 2004. (AP Photo/Amy Sancetta)

40 posted on 11/14/2004 1:51:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: konaice

Thanks for the LINK!


41 posted on 11/14/2004 1:51:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: skaterboy; Cincinatus' Wife

Must be the 6 reporters who wrote a book about him or something... or are writing one..


42 posted on 11/14/2004 1:52:43 AM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: xtinct
Aye, I know what you mean, they are just reinforcing (brainwashing) themselves that it wasn't Kerry that lost the election, surely THEIR candidate. Acts of God, freak of nature, the Internet,Iraq was a lie, dumb uninformed voters, those mean old church goers, and that "vision thing" what was it ?? Oh yeah, Morals.
43 posted on 11/14/2004 1:55:10 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: MNJohnnie
Journalistic fraud. Opinion stated as if it were fact. Journalist to be terminated, Editor sent back to retake Journalism 101.

Good catch.

The problem is...these word terrorists, these intellectual rapists will live to lie another day.

44 posted on 11/14/2004 1:57:28 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"The first was John O'Neill, a Nixon White House ally who had famously debated Kerry over the Vietnam War on "The Dick Cavett Show" in 1971. The second was Roy Hoffmann, one of Kerry's former commanding officers..."

"Rear admiral Roy F. Hoffmann...The Admiral received the Purple Heart Medal for wounds he received during that enemy action...RADM Hoffmann was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal for exceptionally meritorious service against the Viet Cong enemy, the Silver Star Medal and three Bronze Star Medals for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while Commander Task Force 115... RADM Hoffmann was awarded a Gold Star in lieu of the second Meritorious Service Medal... In addition to the personal decorations referred to about, RADM Hoffmann wears the Legion of Merit with gold star in lieu of second award, Navy Commendation Medal, Presidential Unit Citation and Vietnamese Navy Distinguished Service Order Second Class Medal. His Campaign and Service medals are: American Campaign, China Service, Navy Occupation (Japan), World War II Victory, National Defense with one star, Korean Service with seven stars, Korean Presidential Unit Citation, United Nations, Vietnam Service with four stars, Vietnam Campaign, and Navy Expeditionary (Cuba)..."

"John O'Neill served as a Swift boat commander in Vietnam during 1969 and 1970...Mr. O'Neill was graduated from the United States Naval Academy with honors in 1967..."

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=ONeill


46 posted on 11/14/2004 2:02:20 AM PST by huac
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To: jburkovi

47 posted on 11/14/2004 2:02:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: huac

***...."The campaign collectively underestimated the effect of the swift boats. It was a collective mistake," recalled Michael Whouley, a longtime Kerry operative. "I think the candidate was probably the most concerned about it. It pissed him off, people attacking his Vietnam service.".........An angry Kerry summoned longtime friend Thomas J. Vallely, a Bostonian and Silver Star recipient, and told him to "find me Billy Rood." William B. Rood had been present during the action that garnered Kerry the Silver Star the swift boat foes were now calling into question. Rood, an editor at the Chicago Tribune, had refused to speak publicly about the action. He took Kerry's call, though he didn't tell the senator what he planned to do.....***


48 posted on 11/14/2004 2:06:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"the group (SVBT) ate barbecue and Tex-Mex"...sounds ominous... somehow sinister...


49 posted on 11/14/2004 2:06:38 AM PST by huac
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To: huac
LOL

Those uncouth Texans.
50 posted on 11/14/2004 2:07:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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