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US bombs gut insurgent bunker complex
Boston Globe ^ | November 15, 2004 | By Anne Barnard and Farah Stockman

Posted on 11/14/2004 11:03:03 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

FALLUJAH, Iraq -- US forces dropped a pair of 2,000-pound bombs early yesterday morning on a bunker complex believed to be an insurgent training facility on the southern edge of this city, where the most dedicated and best trained rebel fighters are making a last stand.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bombs; insurgents; iraq; war
2000 pound bombs. May God bless these boys.
1 posted on 11/14/2004 11:03:04 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
"...are making a last stand."

Shouldn't that read, "were making a last stand"?

2 posted on 11/14/2004 11:06:05 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
With that pleasant story I'll go to bed.
3 posted on 11/14/2004 11:08:15 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Before you go to bed. Get over to Drudge and watch that video feed he has a link to. Powerful. Made my day watching it.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 11:10:33 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Bonaparte
45 minutes worth of secondaries. Whatta show...!!!
5 posted on 11/14/2004 11:12:43 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
The bombs shook the ground of the former insurgent stronghold and set off secondary explosions that went on for 45 minutes but could not be seen above ground, persuading officers of the Army's First Infantry Division that there were large stockpiles of weapons underground.

Be wonderful if that took out another several hundred of the scumbags.

ABC pool video footage showed Marines blowing the gates off houses with explosives. A bit of bright color stood out on the gray, rubble-strewn streets -- a pink dress on the body of a small child crumpled next to the curb.

I don't know who are bigger scumbags, terrorists, or our own leftwing press.

6 posted on 11/14/2004 11:14:53 PM PST by LibWhacker (FOUR MORE YEARS!!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
They had a pretty good article going until the part of "the bit of colour,the body of a child..." Then the crappy reporters say nothing else just trying to imply that US soldiers had something to do with it,when it's obvious that they didn't because if they had anything remotely close to do with it, that would have been the headline....
7 posted on 11/14/2004 11:20:03 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: Dog

Don't miss this one. If you read the whole story at the Boston Globe there are some interesting tidbits in the final three or four paragraphs. Gen. Natonski is indirectly quoted as saying that is in not clear whether Hadid or Zarqawi had been killed or captured!


8 posted on 11/14/2004 11:28:50 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Wow ! 2000 pound !


9 posted on 11/14/2004 11:36:41 PM PST by iso
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To: atomic_dog

Before you go to bed. Get over to Drudge and watch that video feed he has a link to. Powerful. Made my day watching it.
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I think it was here before it was linked to drudge. Check out the thread about it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1279912/posts


10 posted on 11/14/2004 11:41:17 PM PST by JLS (tHA)
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To: okie01

I'm sorry I missed it. But I'll bet it wasn't as colorful as the video I saw of a fireworks factory on fire. For several minutes various fireworks came shooting out in all directions, and then finally there was a massive explosion and EVERYTHING went off at once, like a planned grand finale.


11 posted on 11/14/2004 11:52:05 PM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
....best trained rebel fighters are making a last stand.

No standing after a 2000 pound bomb is dropped on your head.

12 posted on 11/15/2004 12:28:24 AM PST by elizabetty
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To: elfman2
I like the way this guy thinks. :)

''It's like a drop of mercury in a maze," US Marines Major General Richard Natonski, the architect of the Fallujah operation, said yesterday of the difficulty capturing small groups of insurgents roaming the city.

''You push it in one direction and it breaks into pieces and flows all around," Natonski said on a visit to a forward command post."

Now he ought to try picking it up with a pair of pliers!

13 posted on 11/15/2004 5:21:39 AM PST by Rokke
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
THAT'll make yer ears ring for sure!

And "standing" is the last thing most of these terrorists will be doing just after the blast. That is, unless a body part or two happens to wind up "standing" up against a wall fragment!

BBbooooooooooMMMMmmmm..BBboooooooooMMMmmmm!

14 posted on 11/15/2004 5:24:20 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Rokke

Better ask your parents if you have a secret twin!


15 posted on 11/15/2004 6:51:55 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Cap Huff

Wasn't Hadid captured last week?

Just asking.


16 posted on 11/15/2004 9:42:04 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan

US marines poised outside Zarqawi's Iraq stronghold

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq, Nov 2 (AFP) - US marines are on guard outside the rebel bastion of Fallujah, where they believe at least 2,000 fighters are ensconced, the majority of them followers of Iraq's most wanted man Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

The US-led coalition and the Iraqi government are fighting to reassert control over lawless Fallujah, which fell into the hands of insurgents after an aborted marine-led assault on the city in April.

Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi warned Fallujah's residents in October to hand over Zarqawi, who is suspected of masterminding the insurgency's deadliest attacks and beheadings of hostages, or face a military onslaught.

The US military believes some of Zarqawi's top men are in Fallujah, but is not sure about the whereabouts of the leader himself.

"Zarqawi's network is firmly planted in Fallujah. Is he there? We don't know. His key lieutenants are definitely there implementing his strategy of exporting terror," a marine battlefield officer told AFP.

"He probably has five to six key guys under him carrying out his intentions in Fallujah."

The Jordanian-born Zarqawi, whose group has declared allegiance to the Al-Qaeda network of Osama bin Laden, has a 25 million dollar price on his head.

US military officials said their problem in tracking down militants is that Zarqawi's network is a loose affiliation where insurgents pledge allegiance to their leader and receive cash and fighters from him. But the chain of command does not follow traditional lines.

"It's hard to get a grasp of their overall leadership," the officer said.

He said Zarqawi relies for local muscle on a Fallujah resident named Omar Hadid who leads a 1,000-1,500 strong force including many Syrian and Jordanian fighters.

"He is a local guy, a hometown hero," the officer said, adding that Hadid saw evicting US forces from Iraq "as a crusade and decided to take up arms."

Hadid, who the US military says displays leanings toward radical Islam and has links to Saddam Hussein's toppled regime, emerged as a popular figure after the April fighting in Fallujah, the officer said.

"He has such a built up name, people send him foreign fighters. They send him recruits," the officer said, adding that around 70 percent are foreigners from Jordan and Syria.

On top of Hadid's guerrilla force, at least five foreign and Iraqi advisors to Zarqawi operate in Fallujah and help plot the ruthless militant's national strategy of bombings, kidnappings and assassinations, the officer said.

"Hadid is more of a battlefield commander. The others are in a more advisory role."

Along with Hadid's fighters, another 1,000 militants are thought to be ready to battle US forces if they enter the Sunni Muslim dominated city, with fighters gathering under the banners of local religious clerics.

"Other groups are organised around local mosques. People might say 'I'm with the Islamic Army of Iraq'. I don't see an organised effort. It's more 'I want to go fight the Americans'."

On top of the few thousand hardcore militants, the officer says the city counts another 10,000 military age males who might decide to join the fight in the case of a US-led assault.

"It's an unknown factor. Some might leave the city, some might stay to fight. Most would probably leave."

The marines believe the city, with an estimated population of 250,000, has already seen a mass exodus of civilians, triggered by an escalation in US miliary operations around Fallujah and other rebel bastions like Samarra earlier this year.

"I've heard up to 65 percent of the city has left," a marines spokesman, Captain P.J. Batty, told AFP.

As the government prepares to make a final decision on whether negotiations can rid Fallujah of its insurgents and restore law and order, the US marines are there to keep up the pressure.

Along with the almost nightly air strikes on suspected insurgent positions, marines regularly patrol the city's perimeter and set up spot checkpoints.

"These insurgents in Fallujah, they can surrender or not. If they want to come out and fight us, they are welcome too. If they (Iraqis) can come up with a political solution, ... that's the ultimate solution," said Major Todd Desgrosseilliers, the second in command of the battalion assigned to Fallujah.

"When the politics breakdown that is when the fighting begins."

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=1745
Copyright Agence France-Presse, 2004 © AFP2004


17 posted on 11/15/2004 9:47:31 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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