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To: Helms; weegee; Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; PhilDragoo; EdReform; SierraWasp; ...

-- the "gnutellafication" of authority and knowledge. On the Internet the music swapping system Gnutella not only cut out the music industry middlemen (a la Napster) but also cut out all "central servers." in other words, in the postmodern culture,the roles and functions of all "experts" and "gate-keepers" are being reduced or re-directed."

Post WWII, the gate keepers of knowledge and protocol of an organization controlled that organization and organizations across America and around the world.

When computers came on the scene, they grabbed control of the process and protocols. The same gate keepers expanded their span of control to over see data processing. So even with the new technology, they still controlled the information flows up and down and the protocols to using it.

In the late 1980's and early 1990's pcs became available to people outside this chain of command and protocol. Salesmen and front line managers in corporations bought their own PCs and went on the internet to communicate and exchange data and knowledge. Pastors, ministers and Priests did the same at the local level. This was replicated across America with the exception of the Not News industries posing as News Industries.

By the end of the 1990's the gate keepers of knowledge and protocol were losing control across our nation.

Jim Robinson and others entered into this derailment of central control of news and protocols of dispensing/controlling news. In the late 1990's and early 2000 years.

During the 2000 election the conservative internet sites led by Free Republic had begun the process of taking the control of news release and shaping of news from the MSM.

Free Republic was one of the front line warriors in preventing the attempted coup of the Floriduh election by the MSM and the Gorons.

Later we defeated the Enviral Whackos who wanted to rurally cleanse thousands of ranchers and farmers in the Klamath Basin to protect a bottom sucking/stinking fish. That was the first major defeat of the enviral nazis in America.

We have seen the ability and power of Free Republic re "gnutellafication" of the MSM reach new levels this year and in the election.

We were instrumental in helping the Swift Vets hitting the road and gaining financial clout to help defeat Kerry. The Swift Vets were the poster guys of "gnutellafication" Komrade Kerry's Kamp, the DNC and the left wing attacks on GW and on the Swift Vets.

Free Republic ripped the guts out of the lies that CBS was pushing after a Freeper identified how CBS committed document fraud. Conservative blog sites jumped on that "gnutellafication" of CBS and helped to make fools of them.

Free Republic helped to destroy the October Surprise from the NY Slimes and CBS.

"gnutellafication" of the MSM is good for America, republicans and for the side of truth. The good freepers are part of that "gnutellafication" process. The brown shirted trolls try to derail us 24/7, as they and their masters know the liberals to succeed must control the release and spin of news to suit their agendas. We are not allowing that to happen.


16 posted on 11/17/2004 10:24:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Pravda" doesn't like the public to know that their "truth" is all lies. Goebbels would have been proud to have a non-nationalized media so singular in focus at pushing party rhetoric and disseminating fabricated smears on the opposition.
17 posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:19 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Fedora; dk/coro; Cincinatus' Wife; Travis McGee; ExSoldier; ALOHA RONNIE; ...

Grampa Dave has some very interesting comments at the post above about the "gnutellafication" of authority and knowledge created by Internet applications such as Web and E-mail. He argues that just like the FAX machines and photocopiers behind the Iron Curtain, the Web and sites like FR have made it much harder for the apparatchiks and arabists to manipulate our media without constraint.

Just when we thought Democracy was doomed, our Republic was saved by an innovation created by the DARPA. Did y'all know that TCP/IP was invented to help defense sites communicate with each other during nuclear warfare? The Dems went nuclear and we managed to outwit them anyway. Once again, Defense Department R&D saved the day.


19 posted on 11/17/2004 10:46:16 PM PST by risk
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To: Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; risk
Grampa-

I could not agree more. Postmodernism is a bit different from the actual condition or environment of Postmodernity which involves the advanced use of technology, ie the Internet. Interesting that the MS part of MSNBC failed to monopolize.

Miss Marple was correct in saying that Postmodern philosophies have been undone or confronted by Postmodern tools, ie., the Internet

29 posted on 11/18/2004 9:53:10 AM PST by Helms
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To: Grampa Dave
The net is a neutral communications medium that is used for good and ill. You have to get down to cases to figure out which is which. When it comes to the MSM, the internet has enabled the informed yeoman citizen to do something more than just yell at the tv set when the MSM starts talking that jive bs. The yeoman citizen can now do what the framers contemplated they should do. Consider how apt is this quote from John Adams' Dissertation on The Canon and Feudal Law, from 1765:

Care has been taken that the art of printing should be encouraged, and that it should be easy and cheap and safe for any person to communicate his thoughts to the public. And you, Messieurs printers, whatever the tyrants of the earth may say of your paper, have done important service to your country by your readiness and freedom in publishing the speculations of the curious. The stale, impudent insinuations of slander and sedition, with which the gormandizers of power have endeavored to discredit your paper, are so much the more to your honor; for the jaws of power are always opened to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing. And if the public interest, liberty, and happiness have been in danger from the ambition or avarice of any great man, whatever may be his politeness, address, learning, ingenuity, and, in other respects, integrity and humanity, you have done yourselves honor and your country service by publishing and pointing out that avarice and ambition.

Kind of makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up, doesn't it?

Knowledge is power, and the MSM formerly had oligarchical control over its acquisition, dissemination and interpretation. Well, thanks to the web, we have equal if not greater access to knowledge than they do. We have our collective knowledge and expertise, massively parallel investigating and fact checking, and a real time information marketplace that weeds out fact from fiction. So, instead of yelling at the tv set, we post it. And, there are enough of us that it really has an effect. We're not as dumb as they think, they are not as smart as they think, and we are not just going to get on all fours and say "Please Sir, may I have another?" while they feed us crap and expect us to like it.

42 posted on 11/18/2004 7:23:54 PM PST by Buckhead
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