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Fund for Marine shooter
Vanity | 11/17/2004 | Andyman

Posted on 11/17/2004 8:36:02 AM PST by Andyman

I'm wondering if a FReeper with some experience in the arena would like to set up a fund for the Marine who shot that wounded terrorist in the mosque. I get the feeling he is going to be railroaded and will need some help. Whether it be for lawyer's fees, support for his family, or simply just to show him that there are real Americans who support him, I'd like to contribute to such a fund. Suggestions?


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KEYWORDS: bias; fallujah; fallujahmarine; fund; goebbels; jihad; kevinsites; marine; mediabias; religionofpeace; shooter; sites; slanderngprivateryan; terrorists; wot
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To: BushisTheMan

"Well, aren't you just a bundle of joy."

The Abu Ghraib prison 'scandal' is what I cite as precedent. The so-called torture exemplifies non-violent psychological pre-interrogation conditioning that has been used with ample success by the Saudi and Kuwaiti militaries. The soldiers who 'tortured' the naked Iraqis were following orders as they initially said they were and the media blew it up.

Now the chain of command has sold them out for political expediency.

If Bush does not pressure the military to hang this Marine out to dry I'll be impressed.

I'd really, really be impressed if Bush were to give the whole thing a "So what?" and get on with the war.

But I'm so used to Republicans worrying themselves into a dither over what liberals think of them that I would put money on this kid getting court martialed.

Someday the GOP will start to act like they actually run the country. Let me know when that happens, okay?


41 posted on 11/17/2004 10:18:07 AM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: FrankRepublican
The Marines should send embedded reporters to lead their patrols or act as point.

The "Imbeds" should be the stick-men. You know, carry a stick and poke the presumed dead Muzzy's in the eye. If the Muzzy yells "ouch", or blows up, he's not dead and neither is a marine. The stick-man has satisfied his "Right to Know".

42 posted on 11/17/2004 10:49:37 AM PST by elbucko ( Feral Republican)
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To: Just Dan

And you say that because...?


43 posted on 11/17/2004 10:50:30 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Dept. of Defense:

http://www.defenselink.mil/faq/comment.html


44 posted on 11/17/2004 10:51:28 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: PeterFinn

I disagree, I think President Bush will support him... but thats just me.


45 posted on 11/17/2004 10:52:49 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cicero
Basically, we need to persuade the chain of command and the politicians that there will be more trouble if they throw him to the wolves than if they don't.

Excellent point. Easier said than done. Needs deliberate patience and perseverance to prosecute such a tactic. Count me in.

46 posted on 11/17/2004 10:59:57 AM PST by elbucko ( Feral Republican)
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To: sneakers
...This young soldier, from what I understand, lost buddies when they were booby-trapped under the same circumstances and he was shot in the face just a day or two earlier...

If it was a cop over here under those circumstances he'd be put on leave, right? For the very reason that when you've just been shot by the bad guy you're going to be in no mood whatsoever to get shot again or blown up or see any of your comrades shot or blown up.

The Marines ought to read these terrorists their rights, starting with "you have the right to be dead, you have the right to remain dead, you have the right to an attorney to assure you are truly dead, etc."

47 posted on 11/17/2004 11:02:23 AM PST by Sabatier
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To: Andyman

Heard a talking head White House correspondent talk about this today. The White House apparently thinks it's no big deal. It's only the media that is obsessing over it.


48 posted on 11/17/2004 11:14:11 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: diamond6

Because he wasnt wrong.

Ive seen the tape, and ive experienced first hand what hes going through.

Nothing will happen


49 posted on 11/17/2004 11:28:29 AM PST by Just Dan
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To: Just Dan

I hope you're right. I've spent all morning sending nasty grams re: this marine.


50 posted on 11/17/2004 11:29:40 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Just Dan

Are you in Iraq?


51 posted on 11/17/2004 11:30:23 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6

Nope, not anymore.

Did afghanistan and Iraq... Squad leader in the 101st.

Got injured and medically retired.

I had a similar kill in Afghanistan.

THe military asked me what happened, I told them, they said ok... they did damage control, and I went back into the fight.

Nothing will happen, trust me


52 posted on 11/17/2004 11:32:21 AM PST by Just Dan
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To: Just Dan

GOD BLESS YOU!!!

Thankyou for your service to our great country; you do us proud!


53 posted on 11/17/2004 11:34:04 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sabatier
If it was a cop over here under those circumstances he'd be put on leave, right? For the very reason that when you've just been shot by the bad guy you're going to be in no mood whatsoever to get shot again or blown up or see any of your comrades shot or blown up.

The Marines ought to read these terrorists their rights, starting with "you have the right to be dead, you have the right to remain dead, you have the right to an attorney to assure you are truly dead, etc."

Exactly! That's where the mindset of the Global Infested Liberals is today. In their toy box world there is no difference between Andy Taylor and G.I. Joe except the color of their uniforms. It is a w--a--r....filled with combatants (people who are doing their very best to kill you) who do not respect any form of military code or conduct and believe it is an absolute honor to die taking as many of you and your friends with them as possible. The soldier was doing a soldier's job, give him his purple heart, give him a promotion and get the smell out of his way.

That a soldier might hesitate to do his job because he might be on film is a sick and sorry thought which we should in no way support!

54 posted on 11/17/2004 12:27:28 PM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves..........)
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To: Andyman

Count me in Andyman.


55 posted on 11/17/2004 2:40:14 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: P-Marlowe
He has not been charged. He will not be charged. He did nothing wrong and the military is hopefully just trying to find a politically correct way of saying so.

What should happen and what does happen with military brass is frequently two widely differing outcomes pal. Ask the POW families. Military brass will often "cop out" to whatever is politically expedient.

56 posted on 11/17/2004 2:45:44 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Andyman

This is amazing! The lamestream media thinks it's "too controversial" to show what Islamic terrorists actually do, but then make a big fuss over an American Marine shooting a wounded terrorist who might have had a remote control in his hand.

The worst the Marine is guilty of is panicking in the heat of the moment.


57 posted on 11/17/2004 3:24:47 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: shubi
I think a silver star would be appropriate.

After all Kerry got one for shooting a kid in a breechcloth and no one saw him do that. Millions saw this guy.

All sarchasm aside, the Jarhead did what he was trained to do. He may not have made the appropriate choice when analyzed in the comfort of ones computer chair, but he made the only decision possible given the circustances and the time available to make a decision.

The libs tend to gloss over the fact that this guy was, at least in the recent past, shooting at our guys from the "sanctity" of the mosque. Too bad they didn't just run an Abrams through the mosque when it was first used as a firing position. Then there'd be no problem for this young Marine.

58 posted on 11/17/2004 3:38:25 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: BCrago66
You forgot to mention that Michael Savage is a whack-job freak.

I guess that means you won't be contributing?
59 posted on 11/17/2004 4:23:16 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: BushisTheMan

How long till the trial lawyers try to organize a class action of Iraqi "insurgents" to sue in a U.S. court for damages for mistreatment at the hands of the U.S. Marines?


60 posted on 11/17/2004 6:20:30 PM PST by We Happy Few ("we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother;")
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