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UC Berkeley prof proves Bush stole election!!!
University of California at Berkeley ^ | 11/18/2004 | Michael Hout

Posted on 11/18/2004 1:17:42 PM PST by ArcLight

Summary:

- Irregularities associated with electronic voting machines may have awarded 130,000 excess votes or more to President George W. Bush in Florida.

- Compared to counties with paper ballots, counties with electronic voting machines were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 and 2004. This effect cannot be explained by differences between counties in income, number of voters, change in voter turnout, or size of Hispanic/Latino population.

- In Broward County alone, President Bush appears to have received approximately 72,000 excess votes.

- We can be 99.9% sure that these effects are not attributable to chance.

(Excerpt) Read more at ucdata.berkeley.edu ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: autoenfranchisement; berkeley; bush; counteverysynapse; delusion; dreampolling; election; electronicvoting; flashback; fraud; hallucenogenic; lsd; pseudofacts; sodomypostpartum; statisticalnuance
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This is hugh!
1 posted on 11/18/2004 1:17:44 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: ArcLight

And series. I'm getting in the shower.


2 posted on 11/18/2004 1:18:24 PM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the protected will never know...." Major Jason Muldoon)
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To: ArcLight

I'm always glad when some 60's reject gets the acid flashbacks they were promised.


3 posted on 11/18/2004 1:18:41 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I wanna be like Squantos when I grow up.)
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To: ArcLight

The Left is projecting again. They cheat all the time, so they assume that the Republicans did, too.


4 posted on 11/18/2004 1:19:01 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: ArcLight

Oh, and everyone knows Berzerkly wouldn't have any type of agenda, right?


5 posted on 11/18/2004 1:19:05 PM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the protected will never know...." Major Jason Muldoon)
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To: ArcLight

~~~ and very series.


6 posted on 11/18/2004 1:19:40 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: ArcLight
Berserkley once again making the term higher education an oxymoron.
7 posted on 11/18/2004 1:19:53 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: ArcLight

How can these intellectuals be so stupid?????


8 posted on 11/18/2004 1:20:20 PM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: ArcLight

I sincerely hope the Democrats spend the next four years going on about how they wuz robbed. It should prevent them from doing any helpful self-examination or doing the work necessary to win election sin the future.


9 posted on 11/18/2004 1:20:31 PM PST by gridlock (The Republican Party is a stupid party no more...)
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To: ArcLight

Yaaaahhhhhoooooo! Overturn the election! Send in the lawyers!


10 posted on 11/18/2004 1:20:53 PM PST by Always Right
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To: ArcLight

Rush was talking today about how these lib professors want a multicultural society, government blah blah blah but in higher education the percentage of Republican educators is extremely low.

These folks are very good at the double standard.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 1:21:07 PM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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To: eyespysomething

We can also be 99.9% sure that these effects are not attributable to anyone whose opinion we would actually value.


12 posted on 11/18/2004 1:21:11 PM PST by lunarville (memo to Dan...you lost)
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To: ArcLight

The future PhD's of America have spoken................be afraid....be V-E-R-Y afraid.........


13 posted on 11/18/2004 1:21:40 PM PST by soozla (HELL, YEAH!!)
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To: ArcLight

What is the name of the 'prof'? It's not stated in the article.


14 posted on 11/18/2004 1:21:44 PM PST by xJones
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To: ArcLight
UC Berkeley prof proves Bush stole election!!!

Dang. I hope I can get my DC hotel deposit back.

15 posted on 11/18/2004 1:22:00 PM PST by socal_parrot (Don't follow me, I'm lost!!!)
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To: ArcLight

Oy vey! Set beebers to stune!


16 posted on 11/18/2004 1:22:06 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: ArcLight
It could happen and since we want it to have happened, it must have happened.

Get lost you illogical irrational intellectual midget.

17 posted on 11/18/2004 1:22:36 PM PST by animoveritas (Dispersit superbos mente cordis sui)
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To: ArcLight
- Irregularities associated with electronic voting machines may have awarded 130,000 excess votes or more to President George W. Bush in Florida.

That wouldn't quite make up for the 381,000 votes Bush carried the state by.

18 posted on 11/18/2004 1:22:47 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: ArcLight

130,000 down, 300,000 to go. Of course these counties are run by dems.


19 posted on 11/18/2004 1:22:47 PM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: ArcLight

The following hypothesis:

"electronic voting machines implemented in Florida precincts between 2000 and 2004 elections were responsible for eliminating fraudulent inflation of the Democratic vote in 2000"

Accounts for all his data I believe.


20 posted on 11/18/2004 1:24:12 PM PST by Rippin
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To: ArcLight

Hmmm and Berkley is in what state? Ya thats what I thought. I bet it was GWB's brother that made them use those electronic voting machines too.

Really isn't it time to unite this country. I say we give the presidency to John Kerry...to unite the country.


21 posted on 11/18/2004 1:24:38 PM PST by ReeseKev27
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To: soozla
This effect cannot be explained by differences between counties in income, number of voters, change in voter turnout, or size of Hispanic/Latino population.

Real scientific, innit? I can't help noticing the absence of one possible explanation for the discrepancy--John Kerry. Maybe these "excess" voters wanted no part of the guy. Oh, but that couldn't be it...naah. :-)

22 posted on 11/18/2004 1:24:50 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: ArcLight

Maybe it can be explained by the fact that humans aren't exactly lab animals. They have a mind of their own.


23 posted on 11/18/2004 1:25:01 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Yes DUmmies, we stole the election, but you'll never figure out how. Love, the VRWC.)
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To: ArcLight

ROFLMAO at "excess votes" :?)


24 posted on 11/18/2004 1:25:18 PM PST by standupfortruth
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To: ArcLight

Hey dumbass professor I live in Broward county and got my whole family aunts, uncles, sisters, brother in laws etc.. to vote. So there goes your Broward County theory. They normally had not voted.


25 posted on 11/18/2004 1:26:03 PM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: ArcLight
A more careful comparison of '00 to '04 will show that the extra Bush votes in '04 actually should have been awarded to Pat Buchanan.
26 posted on 11/18/2004 1:26:19 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Always Right
Overturn the election! Send in the lawyers!

The lawyers have been there long before the election - with all the "slolen" scenarios ready to go. What' bowled them over is that " W" got so many MORE votes than they expected - not just in Floria - but across the board (It's not like Florida was a anomaly) and they are therefore having a little harder and longer time covering their scam scenario

27 posted on 11/18/2004 1:26:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Added keyword LSD.
28 posted on 11/18/2004 1:26:25 PM PST by dighton
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To: ArcLight
- In Broward County alone, President Bush appears to have received approximately 72,000 excess votes.

- We can be 99.9% sure that these effects are not attributable to chance.

They are starting out with the assumption that there is no way in hell Bush could recieve more votes than 2000.

29 posted on 11/18/2004 1:26:25 PM PST by rudypoot (We, the american people, made it clear where we stand. We stand with Bush.)
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To: standupfortruth

Figures lie and liars figure.....


30 posted on 11/18/2004 1:26:28 PM PST by rip033
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To: ArcLight

Even if his thesis is true, a alternative hypothesis could also be responsible. Electronic voting machines are more resistant to traditional fraud, therefore democrat vote fraud is suppressed.


31 posted on 11/18/2004 1:27:02 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: eyespysomething

This is the university that last year came out with the "study" purporting to prove that conservatives were stupider than liberals.


32 posted on 11/18/2004 1:27:29 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: ArcLight

"- We can be 99.9% sure that these effects are not attributable to chance."

Professor Gore, allow me to posit that those effects indeed are not due to random chance, rather that the 72,000 votes cited for Bush were in fact, votes for Bush.

Thank you. You may now go back to your gay pride, nude parade.


33 posted on 11/18/2004 1:27:58 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: ArcLight

Hmmm, let's see. This study ignored:

1. Bush was not an incumbant in 2000
2. Gore was a VP incumbant in 2000
3. We were not at war in 2000
4. We did not have a traitor running for president in 2000
5. The MSM had not been busted for blantent attempts to fraudulently affect the elections in 2000
6. Bush had not passed any tax reforms in 2000, as he had not been in oval office yet
7. The economy was headed down, not up in 2000. Vice versa for 2004.
8. The WTC had not been leveled by terrorists in 2000.

Geez, how many more variables do you need to exclude to support the hypothesis that Bush's increase was due to electronic voting machines?


34 posted on 11/18/2004 1:28:17 PM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: ArcLight
Compared to counties with paper ballots, counties with electronic voting machines were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 and 2004. This effect cannot be explained by differences between counties in income, number of voters, change in voter turnout, or size of Hispanic/Latino population.

Because the actual vote count doesn't mean anything.

35 posted on 11/18/2004 1:28:36 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th% (Bush wins!!!)
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To: ArcLight

http://sociology.berkeley.edu/faculty/hout/


36 posted on 11/18/2004 1:28:46 PM PST by nobody_knows (Mother hold the candle steady while I shave the chicken's lips.)
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To: gridlock

The fault, dear prof, is not in our ballots,
but in yourself.


37 posted on 11/18/2004 1:28:57 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: MVP)
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To: ArcLight

38 posted on 11/18/2004 1:29:00 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: kaehurowing

Conservatives stupider than liberals? Well, this study pretty much proves the opposite. What kind of numbskull would be impressed by this? The obvious explanation--that Bush won over a lot more voters this time around--is unbearable to these guys, so they come up with a nutzo hypothesis that turns Bush's victory into a scam. Some people will go to any lengths to avoid reality.


39 posted on 11/18/2004 1:29:50 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: ArcLight
The article does not say Bush stole the election. It says that the swing to Bush in Florida was greater in the electronic voting counties than in the non electronic voting counties, and tries to correct for other variables, such as Hispanic population, population size, etc.

The counties are not listed, so I don't know if there is another logical explanation. The study did not also consider that maybe the electronic voting counties had more population growth than the state as a whole from 2000 to 2004. The correlation could also be random noise.

40 posted on 11/18/2004 1:30:29 PM PST by Torie
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To: ArcLight

We must all work diligently in the coming months to convince “progressives” that the Democratic Party has let them down. They must abandon the party. Their only recourse is to join and work for the Green Party moving forward. I may even register as a Green Party member to swell their voter registration rolls. Divide and conquer.

Begin with putting all known “progressives” in your sphere of influence on the Green Party mail list from their website. Great fun. Start inundating them with information now.


41 posted on 11/18/2004 1:30:38 PM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party Divide and conquer)
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To: rudypoot

He is right this did not happen because of "chance."


42 posted on 11/18/2004 1:30:41 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
That wouldn't quite make up for the 381,000 votes Bush carried the state by.

No doubt the "professor" will revise his/her statement to say 381,001 votes were found.

It's funny how liberals assume the world acts like them (steal elections, hate people, discriminate, dope smokers, fudge packers, etc.)

43 posted on 11/18/2004 1:30:42 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: eyespysomething
Here's a quote from the report that shows clear evidence of the researchers' bias:

The evidence for this is the statistical significance of terms in our model that gauge the average impact of e-voting across Florida’s 67 counties and statistical interaction effects that gauge its larger-than-average effect in counties where Vice President Gore did the best in 2000 and slightly negative effect in the counties where Mr. Bush did the best in 2000.

They call Al Gore "Vice President Gore", and yet they call George Bush "Mr. Bush". It's clear they don't even think he's the President!

44 posted on 11/18/2004 1:30:56 PM PST by vrwc1
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To: ArcLight

"were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 and 2004"

And .. as usual the Professor is too stooooooopid to find out that the reason for the increase is that DEMOCRATS WERE VOTING FOR BUSH.


45 posted on 11/18/2004 1:31:16 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: js1138
I didn't want to decipher their data, it doesn't deserve that kind of time. Suffice it to say (1) they include the Dole results from 1996 as some sort of control, (2) they do not take into account Jewish populations, but do take into account Hispanic populations, which is strange considering that Joe Lieberman was on the ticket in 2000, (3) they assume 2000 is correct and accurate data and 2004 is the variable.

This is the most egregious error from a scientific point of view. It is quite possible (indeed, quite likely) that the counties that went electronic in 2004 had some of their hanky-panky pared down as compared to 2000.

46 posted on 11/18/2004 1:31:32 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: ArcLight

The President won, Professor; give it a rest.


47 posted on 11/18/2004 1:31:43 PM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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To: ArcLight

Saw this earlier on DU.....they're over there practically wetting themselves that this MIGHT overturn the election!


48 posted on 11/18/2004 1:31:51 PM PST by NRA1995 (Free Republic Inaugural Ball II, here I come!!!)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

They aren't stupid.

They have an A G E N D A!!!!


49 posted on 11/18/2004 1:32:01 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: ArcLight
How long until someone who actually knows how to think debunks this steaming pile of statistical crap?
50 posted on 11/18/2004 1:32:17 PM PST by msnimje
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