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Northern spotted owl to stay on threatened species list, but isn't endangered, government says
AP ^ | 11/18/4 | JEFF BARNARD

Posted on 11/18/2004 6:45:15 PM PST by SmithL

GRANTS PASS, Ore. -- The northern spotted owl, the bird at the center of the Pacific Northwest logging wars, will stay on the threatened species list, the government said Thursday.

A U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service review said the spotted owl is still declining in numbers because of wildfires, logging on private land, the West Nile virus and the loss of territory to a more aggressive species, the barred owl.

The spotted owl has been listed as threatened since 1990. To help save it, the government in 1994 cut logging by more than 80 percent in the Northwest's national forests.

The wildlife service arranged for an outside review of the owl's status in response to a forest industry lawsuit in 2003.

The review said previous research found that the spotted owl population declined by about 3.7 percent per year from 1985 to 2003, most dramatically in Washington state. The overall population has not been estimated.

The review concluded the owl is not endangered, a more dire condition requiring greater effort to keep a species from becoming extinct.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animalwhackos; environment; esa; forestry; greens; logging; owl; spottedowl
It's not just for breakfast, anymore.
1 posted on 11/18/2004 6:45:16 PM PST by SmithL
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To: farmfriend


2 posted on 11/18/2004 6:46:06 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: SmithL

Off the list and on to the menu ? :-)


3 posted on 11/18/2004 6:47:32 PM PST by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: SmithL

Tastes just like condor.


4 posted on 11/18/2004 6:49:16 PM PST by pissant
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To: SmithL

The biggest reason for the Northwest logging wars had nothing to do with the spotted owl. It was because the Senate Majority leader, Mitchell was from Maine. He wanted the lumber market for his state. Period.


5 posted on 11/18/2004 6:49:31 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Just say NO to blue states.)
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To: SmithL
Isn't the barred owl the exact same species as the spotted owl?

Like aren't these critters, from the different groups, sometimes caught, in the open, in daylight, doing it?

And then the eggs hatch out one or the other? That's the same species you know!

6 posted on 11/18/2004 6:49:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: JediForce


"I'm deeply saddened. Because I had northern owl for breakfast this morning."
7 posted on 11/18/2004 6:49:56 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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c'mon barred owl, finish it off so we can log again


8 posted on 11/18/2004 6:50:04 PM PST by michaelbfree
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To: JediForce
I LOVE YOUR TAGLINE!
9 posted on 11/18/2004 6:50:40 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: SmithL

Now we have to start worrying about the endangered Western American Logger.


10 posted on 11/18/2004 6:51:58 PM PST by Smacky
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To: SmithL

It's more of a brunch meal. Bloody Marys and such.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 6:52:21 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Thank you....it has a Lexington and Concord kind of ring to it. Feel free to use the expression at your discretion.


12 posted on 11/18/2004 6:53:20 PM PST by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: SmithL

Hahahahaa, and we go great with brewski!

Seriously, I told my friend that should he decide to sign up for this site, he should use "the Desert Tortoise" for a name.


13 posted on 11/18/2004 6:54:49 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: SmithL
I remember what an old logger in Alsea, Oregon told me; "If teens can fornicate in the back of a vw, how come this owl needs 35,000 acres?". It was not a popular decision to list the owl and it destroyed a lot of the mills and small towns. Liberals were running around telling unemployed loggers to work at McDonalds. Oregon is still paying for the owls and the Liberals.
14 posted on 11/18/2004 6:56:19 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: JediForce

Thanks I will!


15 posted on 11/18/2004 6:57:23 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: SmithL

Not endangered anymore ? Heck I guess I'll have to switch to peringon falcon.


16 posted on 11/18/2004 6:59:58 PM PST by festus (Old growth timbers make the best campfires....)
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To: SmithL

I am afraid if this owl starts going through a population boom, I will be scared. They like to eat ptarmigans.


17 posted on 11/18/2004 7:00:09 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: SmithL

18 posted on 11/18/2004 7:17:03 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: SmithL
...the West Nile virus...

Whaaa?

FMCDH(BITS)

19 posted on 11/18/2004 7:27:02 PM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: SmithL

Northern Spotted Owl

20 posted on 11/18/2004 7:37:30 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: SmithL

The 'Spotted Al(gore)' is becoming extinct in the political world. People have reported some sightings, but the species has not re-established itself.


21 posted on 11/18/2004 8:00:18 PM PST by punster
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To: crazyhorse691

This little bird makes me want to cry every time I see it. I’m from a small logging/farming community in the northeast corner of California, and my community was wiped out by politicians from Sacramento and environmentalist from Berkley.

They came up and told us that we were destroying the environment, and they were going to put a stop to it. They did! At the time, people didn’t believe it. Community leaders said, “These city slickers can’t tell us what to do” or “look at their cities, paved over, trees cut down and replaced with parking lots”. But they put a stop to small town life, small town tradition, and small town culture. They destroyed small town values.

Generations of hardworking families were reduced to welfare recipients over night. Now their children have no jobs and no futures in the town. They seem to either leave, or turn to drugs. Generates of hard working people turned into government dependents.

Visit my website;
www.jeffersonrepublicans.com

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


22 posted on 11/18/2004 8:03:04 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: SmithL; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
The review said previous research found that the spotted owl population declined by about 3.7 percent per year from 1985 to 2003, most dramatically in Washington state. The overall population has not been estimated.

How can you tell how much something has decliced if you don't know how much there is to start with?

Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

23 posted on 11/18/2004 9:37:35 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SmithL
Gets the monkey off their back for calling it endangered while still allowing them to keep the regulatory apparatus intact.
24 posted on 11/18/2004 10:24:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Privatizing environmental regulation is critical to national survival.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Some logging family in my home town handed out a picture of a spotted owl nesting in a K-mart sign. They were trying to prove to the environmentist that the owls didn't need a dark quite place to nest. Unfortunity the environmentist had already made up their minds, and didn't need any hillbilly to tell them about the environment.

If anyone has seen this picture, I would love to get a link to it. I tried to google it, but had no luck. Please help.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


25 posted on 11/18/2004 10:36:25 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
I've never seen the photo.

Googling didn't pick it up for me either.

26 posted on 11/18/2004 11:28:36 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Privatizing environmental regulation is critical to national survival.)
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To: farmfriend
Sigh. Sometimes these 'solutions' are SO 'OBVIOUS'. Why aren't they listening...???


27 posted on 11/18/2004 11:56:11 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was ALSO a 'war hero'... before he became a Traitor!!!)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


28 posted on 11/19/2004 3:02:32 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Carry_Okie

I see they wauted till after the election to tell the rural areas that the administration was not gonna relax any enviro regs...keeps the red areas red don'tcha know.

This sucks.


29 posted on 11/19/2004 9:42:43 AM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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