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Porn puts a hook in you: warning
New York Daily News ^ | 11/19/04 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2004 2:07:51 AM PST by kattracks

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To: kattracks

Researchers say...give us millions of taxpayers money to study this problem because porn is like heroin...blah blah blah.....Get the hell out of Dodge!!....Just another scam to bleed Joe Taxpayer.....Now...back to my favorite porn sites....leave me alone!


21 posted on 11/19/2004 3:18:23 AM PST by Route101
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To: sinanju
Does anyone here think for a hot minute that this bunch cares about anything other than rounding up some juicy grant boodle for themselves?

LOL! They're probably some porn addicts trying to find a way to surf the net all day and night and get paid for it, as well as having the taxpayers fund access to the premium pay sites (research, you know)...
22 posted on 11/19/2004 3:21:12 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit

The public is generally not aware that sexual addiction is a growing concern - It destroys relationships, hurts careers and affects 3-5 percent of the population.

Like any other addiction, it is progressive and leads to higher and higher risk behaviors.

Chemical and other addictions get all the publicity but no one wants to acknowledge that a large percentage of our culture is hooked into a cycle of self destruction just as debilitating as drugs and alchohol.


23 posted on 11/19/2004 3:29:41 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: goldstategop
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying watching porn constantly is healthy for any one. But the occasional indulging in adult entertainment isn't a sign of guys with loose marbles in their heads.

"Adult entertainment;" now there's a euphemism, for something very, very immature. Some also don't get addicted to an occasional snort of cocaine, some smoke a cigarette, they say, just every once in a while. That hardly makes such practices healthy.

Saw a TV show recently, about people in San Francisco whose profession is to clean up after suicides. SF is the suicide capitol of the US. One said that it's almost a lock that where there is a suicide, there is alcohol, a gun, and pornography.

24 posted on 11/19/2004 3:40:05 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: sinanju
Does anyone here think for a hot minute that this bunch cares about anything other than rounding up some juicy grant boodle for themselves? I'm sure this lot would be requesting taxpayer dough to propagate porn to pre-schoolers if they thought they could sell the idea.

Does anyone ever ask for money to do anything out of realistically good intentions?

Such a slam without evidence is pretty sick.

25 posted on 11/19/2004 3:43:01 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: WebTalk

Congratulations on your son being clean for a year - and good luck to him, you, and your family as you work through this trauma. Prayers and blessings to all concerned.


26 posted on 11/19/2004 3:43:36 AM PST by NCPAC (Social Darwinists Unite!)
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To: kattracks

Not as addictive as Free Republic!


27 posted on 11/19/2004 3:44:13 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: goldstategop
"Sex has never corrupted any one."


28 posted on 11/19/2004 3:52:00 AM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: Tarpaulin

BINGO!!!


29 posted on 11/19/2004 3:54:17 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Tarpaulin

Kinsey!


30 posted on 11/19/2004 3:56:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: kattracks

Looking at this issue, the Christian half of me wants to applaud efforts of looking and combating the ills of pornography, while the fiscal conservative half of me wants to remain sceptical because it involves a request of yet more public money for research.

I can also imagine scenarios in which John Edwards or other similar trial lawyers suing porn industry for damages, and liberal nanny-state bureaucrats rush in to regulate porn. Now given that many eplicit gay activists also upport porn, many social liberals also oppose banning porn, many in Hollywood are inching ever more towards real pornography, and the real porn industry also has many Democrats, will we end up with one mob of Democrats biting another?

But this battle will also be fought on the conservative side too. I can imagine libertarian-leaning people fighting Christian conservatives over this issue, and it is something we have to be prepared as well.


31 posted on 11/19/2004 3:56:22 AM PST by NZerFromHK (Disclaimer: this poster is a naturalized NZer born in Hong Kong, not a expat Kiwi in HK)
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To: unspun
I responded to your thread specifically because of the factors you mention, but there are several threads that mention correlations between porn and different pathologies. It seems to me that the whole issue here is confusion over cause and effect. Finding certain items at a suicide site doesn't imply that those items caused the suicide. Diabetics are usually found with syringes and insulin, but that doesn't mean that syringes and insuling in one's possession cause diabetes.

The real issue is that the individuals involved have pathologies that drive them to seek out porn, not that porn causes pathologies. I'm not approving of porn, but I don't really have any objection to it either. To say that porn causes any kind of problem is a bit of a stretch. I don't believe that seeing it would be good for kids, though, as it presents a very distorted world view that I personally don't believe kids are able to deal with emotionally. My .02.

32 posted on 11/19/2004 4:08:49 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: unspun
There are many stories about pornography addiction too. Ted Bundy had a story.

Yeah, he did. He was using the story of "I'm a porn addict" to get sympathy and get out of the death penalty. Ted Bundy was a manipulative little s**t from the get-go: that's how he got into a position to kill all those women, and how he damn near got away with it.

33 posted on 11/19/2004 4:13:19 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: goldstategop

quote: "Sex has never corrupted any one. If there are people who can't handle it responsibly, that's one thing. But to say it turns people into depraved, sex-addicted monsters is preposterous. By that logic, almost every man on earth, apart from those who live in monasteries, should be locked up simply for thinking about it."


Exactly. Except monks think about it even more - that's why they're monks. Pornography is the most widely used sex aid in the world. Pick something , and there will be some small percentage of people who abuse it. But those who look at what's abused as the source of the abuse are wrong. That's like saying wives cause wife abuse.


34 posted on 11/19/2004 4:20:47 AM PST by helmetmaker
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To: kattracks

Addicted more to C.S.I. Las Vegas, New York, Miami and Navy C.S.I....Is this as bad as internet porno???


35 posted on 11/19/2004 4:20:58 AM PST by Route101
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To: kattracks

-"They called for billboards and bus ads warning people to avoid pornography, strip clubs and prostitutes."-

What, are they going to put up a huge picture of a prostitute or attractive porn queen and caption it with "Don't go there"? What a bunch of hooey.

What, did these researchers JUST NOW discover that porn et al is a bad thing for society? Just how long did it take 'em to figure that one out, and how much did the government pay for that no-brainer as well?

Researchers still trying to figure out sex et al should be barred from applying for any future grants. If you can't figure out these things out, you need to move to another field.


36 posted on 11/19/2004 4:23:20 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: helmetmaker
Pick something , and there will be some small percentage of people who abuse it.

I'm more concerned about the not so small percentage of people willing to abuse the Commerce Clause for their own gratificaiton.

37 posted on 11/19/2004 4:35:45 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Hardastarboard
The real issue is that the individuals involved have pathologies that drive them to seek out porn, not that porn causes pathologies. I'm not approving of porn, but I don't really have any objection to it either. To say that porn causes any kind of problem is a bit of a stretch.

Why don't you just apply common sense? Consider the effects of appetite and ennui and the desire for more potency, when the appetite is for something outside of what satisfies and provides healthy nourishment. Also, consider the forces of supply and demand.

Without writing a dissertation, it isn't difficult.

If you think that taking what is meant to be intimately (read, privately) prized and shared between a husband and wife and making it common for strangers isn't unhealthy, though, maybe it doesn't do much good to keep applying words.

38 posted on 11/19/2004 4:37:16 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: helmetmaker
Look at pornography and you look at abuse. Get it?
39 posted on 11/19/2004 4:39:00 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: kattracks

Just say NO to pornography.


40 posted on 11/19/2004 4:48:24 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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